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    i came across an ad for a software program that hides one's ip address. naive question but how important/unimportant is that? if important, is there a program you'd recommend?

    thanks
    525,600 minutes, 525,000 moments so dear. 525,600 minutes - how do you measure, measure a year?

  • #2
    Re: IP hiding software

    If you want to be anonymous, use Tor.

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    • #3
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      Depends on how strongly you need to be anonymous. If you are concerned that the law or at least some lawyers will come hunting for you because of what you do on-line, then it can be important.

      For the average law-abiding person, I can't see any reason for doing it.

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      • #4
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        Software that can hide one's IP address? I'd be curious to see how they claim that works.

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        • #5
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          Probably by using proxy servers around the world, routing your traffic through them before connecting with the site in question. Quite popular with people concerned with privacy, sure, but also with people who trade software and media files of questionable origin... and people who want to infiltrate online communities from which they've been blocked to continue being pains in the ass.

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          • #6
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            That would only work for web browsing. What about p2p file sharing, FTP, SMTP, or any other protocol? I suppose they could have an army of proxy servers for all these other applications, but what if a service is running on a non-standard port? What if I have a proprietary app?

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            • #7
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              for what it's worth, this question was prompted by a message board that i visit once in a while; it's related to the software program picturestoexe (a slideshow program), mostly popular in europe, i think. anyway, in one of the threads, someone complained about downloading a virus from the website and to make a long story short, one person wrote,

              "...Five, Zone Alarm's 'stealths' the computer, rendering the machine invisible to the internet, so that web crawling nasties do not detect its presence. For more on stealthing, see:

              https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

              This is Steve Gibson's 'ShieldsUP' site. If you haven't seen this before, prepare to be astonished.

              In addition I regularly run Search&Destroy and Ad-Aware over the entire machine...."

              so i checked out the web link above and there's a lot of info there that i didn't want to crawl through so i thought i'd ask you guys cuz you're all pretty web savvy.

              as far as software programs that'll hide your ip address, apparently there are a number of them:

              http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/N..._Standard.html

              http://www.newfreedownloads.com/Inte...-Platinum.html

              http://www.newfreedownloads.com/Inte...ty-Shield.html

              just to list a few.

              from what i've read, if you're thinking that you can be invisible to the law, that's a mistake cuz none of the programs are that good. what it does do is make it less convenient/a little more difficult for some hacker/bad guy/etc to get to you/your computer.

              anyway, that's the background to the question







              Originally posted by pzarquon View Post
              Probably by using proxy servers around the world, routing your traffic through them before connecting with the site in question. Quite popular with people concerned with privacy, sure, but also with people who trade software and media files of questionable origin... and people who want to infiltrate online communities from which they've been blocked to continue being pains in the ass.
              525,600 minutes, 525,000 moments so dear. 525,600 minutes - how do you measure, measure a year?

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              • #8
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                Correct me if I'm wrong guys, but if you run say on Oceanic Road Runner, isn't your IP true address is kind of already hidden behind the proxy because it's not static?

                You could trace it back to Oceanic's static IP address on its server, but not to the actual computer you are sitting on because it's given a dynamic address like through DHCP. Oceanic could reveal who was on that internally assigned IP address if it wanted to, but probably only with a request from law enforcement. We had to special order our static IP address at work through Oceanic, so it just got me thinking...especially since I'm gearing up for the Certified Ethical Hacker (CEH) exam...

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                • #9
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                  i'm curious to see what the answer to this one is cuz mine appears to be static (i use oceanic); tested it on three sites and they all gave me the same ip address.

                  if it's a free option with oceanic, i'd be happy to call them and request it and it'd save me a few bucks since i wouldn't have to buy any software....



                  Originally posted by Kittrick View Post
                  Correct me if I'm wrong guys, but if you run say on Oceanic Road Runner, isn't your IP true address is kind of already hidden behind the proxy because it's not static?

                  You could trace it back to Oceanic's static IP address on its server, but not to the actual computer you are sitting on because it's given a dynamic address like through DHCP. Oceanic could reveal who was on that internally assigned IP address if it wanted to, but probably only with a request from law enforcement. We had to special order our static IP address at work through Oceanic, so it just got me thinking...especially since I'm gearing up for the Certified Ethical Hacker (CEH) exam...
                  525,600 minutes, 525,000 moments so dear. 525,600 minutes - how do you measure, measure a year?

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                  • #10
                    Re: IP hiding software

                    Originally posted by shaveice View Post
                    for what it's worth, this question was prompted by a message board that i visit once in a while; ...

                    "...Five, Zone Alarm's 'stealths' the computer, rendering the machine invisible to the internet, so that web crawling nasties do not detect its presence. For more on stealthing, see:

                    https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
                    OK that's a completely different thing. That's all about hiding your computer from port scanners.

                    What these bad guys do is scan all the different ports at each public IP address just to see what's out there and what they can poke around in. It's like walking down the street after hours and checking the door locks.

                    When scanned, a "normal" machine will reply "that port is closed". While the port is closed, it does tell the bad guy there is a computer at that address. It may also give them some idea as to what type of computer and what types of attacks they might try.

                    What you're talking about is "stealth". Such as a firewall. When a outside person attempts to initiate connection, it doesn't reply. To the bad guy, it appears that there's no computer at that address so they move one. To go back to the analogy, the bad guy doesn't see a locked door, he sees an empty lot. "Nothing of interest here - move along."

                    While firewalls are a good idea, I prefer to have a home router. It's much more difficult for a bad guy to get past your router to your computer.

                    As far as Firewalls go, I think the one built into XP SP2 is adequate. If you want more, you can download ZoneAlarm's free firewall program. It gives you more warning about what programs are "phoning home".

                    When you talked about "hiding your IP" we all assumed you were talking about not giving away to a website what IP you are at. Most sites do track what IP address was used to do things from. If it ever became a legal matter, a subpoena to Oceanic will get them to reveal who held that IP address at that time. That how the cops find the guys downloading kiddy porn and how the RIAA finds the downloaders to sue. Most of us don't need that level on anonymity.

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                    • #11
                      Re: IP hiding software

                      well, all of this is news to me so when i mentioned hiding one's ip, i meant that in the most general sense: being invisible for the sake of not being a target.

                      thanks for the info
                      525,600 minutes, 525,000 moments so dear. 525,600 minutes - how do you measure, measure a year?

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                      • #12
                        Re: IP hiding software

                        Oceanic Road Runner's (home version) IP address is dynamic, but it seems static because it hardly ever changes. If you're online frequently, you can go a very long time with the same IP. But technically, it can change at anytime.

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