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  • #16
    Re: Honolulu Municipal Building to be named after Fasi

    Originally posted by Palolo Joe
    Fasi did a lot for this town... he deserves to be honored. Hope the municipal building is in fact named after him.
    Naming whatever buildings after Fasi is not the issue but rather when to do the renaming of the building is the issue. I don't want to sound cold but Frank Fasi is still very much alive, I can see naming some small structure like a bench, a parking stall, a conference room, or a floor after him now would be reasonable thing to do and after he passes away then rename the building after him.
    Last edited by helen; February 11, 2006, 04:35 PM. Reason: adding more text

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    • #17
      Re: Honolulu Municipal Building to be named after Fasi

      Originally posted by Linkmeister
      Your link to the S-B stay broke.

      I think the idea of renaming Kukui Plaza was meant as sarcasm, given the graft and corruption scandal that erupted around it during Frank's tenure.
      This is the way I interpreted it as well - although most internet archives don’t go that far back. I did find some interesting history from our beloved Hawaii Threads administrator’s old web site, though.

      Ryan Ozawa’s Ka ‘Upena Kukui

      Russell Cullen was convicted of killing Carolina Ching and trying to kill her boyfriend in the parking lot of the Kukui Plaza in downtown Honolulu in 1993.

      We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans.

      — U.S. President Bill Clinton
      USA TODAY, page 2A
      11 March 1993

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      • #18
        Re: Honolulu Municipal Building to be named after Fasi

        Originally posted by TuNnL
        This is the way I interpreted it as well - although most internet archives don’t go that far back. I did find some interesting history from our beloved Hawaii Threads administrator’s old web site, though.
        Funny, the other nite watching Hawaii 5-0, the baddy was looking at the latest Star Bulletin headlines, where it alluded to HIS crime, and the second headlines was referenced the Kukui debacle! And since we lived kukui gardens side back then, i remembered that scene in the ep.

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        • #19
          Re: Honolulu Municipal Building to be named after Fasi

          Originally posted by LikaNui
          Eh, Kimo, like mine too? Doc helped me by resizing it to fit.
          It's Frank Fasi as a baby (he said, trying in vain to stay on topic).
          Fate missed a member; the good, they die young... of smoking; the bad, they thrive on evil in all its forms. dang it.

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          • #20
            Re: Honolulu Municipal Building to be named after Fasi

            Originally posted by LikaNui
            Eh, Kimo, like mine too? Doc helped me by resizing it to fit.
            dass funny; da more i wen spok em, da more i see da bebe steh go doin planny stuffs, li dat. raise eyebrows, cig gets big den mo small, den bebe koff, den down a shot of Patron, den...

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            • #21
              Re: Honolulu Municipal Building to be named after Fasi

              Originally posted by helen
              I don't want to sound cold...
              Too bad, you do...

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              • #22
                Re: Honolulu Municipal Building to be named after Fasi

                Yeah, let's name buildings after "public servants," even though whatever they did, they got paid for. Sure. We could name those buildings, parks, whatever after dedicated individuals who do it for nothing but the true meaning of *service,* but ... OK, yeah, name whatever the heck after Frank Fasi or Ben Cayetano or Ronald Reagan or Richard Nixon, guys who collected paychecks for doing exactly what you want to honor them for ... they need all the name recognition they can get, poor bastards.

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                • #23
                  Re: Honolulu Municipal Building to be named after Fasi

                  Originally posted by Palolo Joe
                  Too bad, you do...
                  No, she doesn't. It's not "cold" not to want to name taxpayer facilities after paid public employees. It's honest and decent.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Honolulu Municipal Building to be named after Fasi

                    Hmm. You know, my first sense of the Kukui Plaza recommendation was that it was meant critically, but I guess my memory is short. Ah well.

                    Naming landmarks and facilities after living people is always messy business, which is usually why folks deal with exceptions as they come rather than opening the door completely. Didn't we run into similar concerns with the Stan Sheriff Center at UH? And I know similar concerns came up once upon a time with the Tetsuo Harano tunnels.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Honolulu Municipal Building to be named after Fasi

                      I think you mean the Les Murakami baseball stadium at UH. If I remember right the Stan Sheriff Center was renamed after he passed away.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Honolulu Municipal Building to be named after Fasi

                        Originally posted by MadAzza
                        It's not "cold" not to want to name taxpayer facilities after paid public employees. It's honest and decent.
                        Funny, because that's EXACTLY what I was suggesting for Fasi. Helen wanted to name a bench after him, since he's still alive.

                        Reading comprehension's a pain in the okole, ain't it...

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                        • #27
                          Re: Honolulu Municipal Building to be named after Fasi

                          Tugboats have been named after members of Hawaii's congressional delegation, both deceased and alive. When President Reagan was still alive, an aircraft carrier was named after him.

                          More and more it seems to not be a big deal to name something after a person who is still alive. The only exceptions so far (the person has to be dead) are for U.S. postage stamps and U.S. coins and currency.
                          I'm still here. Are you?

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                          • #28
                            Re: Honolulu Municipal Building to be named after Fasi

                            Originally posted by Linkmeister
                            Your link to the S-B stay broke.

                            I think the idea of renaming Kukui Plaza was meant as sarcasm, given the graft and corruption scandal that erupted around it during Frank's tenure.


                            Indeed. So few remember.
                            Aloha from Lavagal

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                            • #29
                              Re: Honolulu Municipal Building to be named after Fasi

                              Originally posted by Palolo Joe
                              Fasi did a lot for this town... he deserves to be honored. Hope the municipal building is in fact named after him.

                              Frank Fasi made Honolulu what it is today. He turned the old HRT into a world class bus system under MTL. I remember when he bought those first buses from Texas and painted them the familiar Yellow and Black calling them "TheBus". His minivan had a license plate "TheVan" and he always had that familiar Shaka sign.

                              Frank Fasi also finished off the Kuhio widening project as a non-mayor when Eileen Anderson (then the Mayor of Honolulu) couldn't get the job done.

                              As crooked as the guy is, he got the job done.

                              Frank Fasi had envisioned a private developer to build a world-class convention center at the Aloha Motors site with no tax payer dollars. The developer would then lease the center back to the city. That was turned down and eventually the taxpayers footed the cost for a smaller and less efficient convention center at the same site.

                              Frank Fasi had pushed for a light rail system and if he had the political support he would have gotten that done too. Newspapers at the time dubbed his grand light rail system vision as: F.A.R.T. or the Fasi Area Rapid Transit system (taking the cue from San Francisco's Bay Area Rapid Transit system or B.A.R.T)

                              When Frank Fasi was our mayor for many many years, he was known as a man of action, getting things done in record time. He deserves to have the Muni Building named after him even in life.

                              And before we start slamming Mufi, remember the State of Hawaii renamed the Rainbow Stadium to the Les Murakami stadium. Les is still very much alive.
                              Life is what you make of it...so please read the instructions carefully.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Honolulu Municipal Building to be named after Fasi

                                Originally posted by craigwatanabe
                                Frank Fasi had pushed for a light rail system and if he had the political support he would have gotten that done too. Newspapers at the time dubbed his grand light rail system vision as: F.A.R.T. or the Fasi Area Rapid Transit system (taking the cue from San Francisco's Bay Area Rapid Transit system or B.A.R.T)

                                When Frank Fasi was our mayor for many many years, he was known as a man of action, getting things done in record time.
                                What about F.A.R.T.? He nevah get dat one done in record time. He still nevah tell us why Rene Mansho wen vote no in ’92. Some of us heard his most recent campaign promise to “reveal the real reason she voted the way she did.”

                                Takes a crook to know a crook, eh, Frank?

                                We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans.

                                — U.S. President Bill Clinton
                                USA TODAY, page 2A
                                11 March 1993

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