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Ok, going back to P8, still not so sure how well this model will perform considering it's a heavier plane and it's jet, so it may get to the battlefield sooner but loitering time probably is shortchanged. I still think it has a lot to do with politics since Boeing pushed hard on their 737 MMA project and the Australians ordered 6 737 wedgetails, guess the next gen surveillance/reconnaisance planes. But in those roles, a jet plane makes sense. A sub-hunter/maritime patrol? Dunno......
Wonder if airships can ever make a comeback in those areas? An airship can loiter for a very long time hehe.
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Originally posted by joshuatree View PostTrue, when you are offered the chance to break the sound barrier, it's a risk worth taking.
I heard whatever F-111s we have sitting out in the desert have pretty much been cannibalized for spare parts by the RAAF.
Those A models that weren't sold to the Aussies were converted to the EF-111A Raven which was the stealth prototype using the ALQ-99 ECM radar jamming pod. The Ravens were used during the Gulf War to blind Iraqi radar sites and allowed the USAF to destroy Iraqi forward surveillance capability.
The F-111's were also used in the raid on Libya as it was the only plane that could hit supersonic and fly under the radar net.
The B1 Bomber was supposed to replace the F-111 but President Carter slashed the B1 funds and the plane was downgraded to subsonic speeds making that plane a useless hunk of tactical and strategic junk.
But hey this is all about the Navy P8 right?
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Originally posted by craigwatanabe View PostActually the plane I rode and the RAAF's were one in the same. I worked on the Avionics package of the F-111A (carrier model) back in the late 70's early 80's. We had three AGS (Aircraft Generation Squadron) squadrons in our 367th Tactical Fighter Wing.
There was the Red, Blue and Yellow squadrons. When the Aussies came knocking on our door to buy some Aardvarks we sold them most of our Yellow Squadron's birds as they were mostly hanger queens (down for maintenance).
I had the opportunity to ride a yellow squadron bird and at first was quite hesitant on taking the offer as this plane suffered more crashes during peacetime than during the entire Vietnam war and the yellow birds were the least reliable so you could sense my apprehension. Plus we had on average one crash per year at our base, all of them yellow squadron.
But it was the ride of a lifetime and not too many people can boast that so I wen chance em!
I heard whatever F-111s we have sitting out in the desert have pretty much been cannibalized for spare parts by the RAAF.
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Originally posted by joshuatree View PostF-111? Wasn't that a while ago? Or do you mean riding in one of the RAAF's F-111s? I think they are the last major air force to still have them on active status though they are desperately looking for their replacements in the F35 project.
There was the Red, Blue and Yellow squadrons. When the Aussies came knocking on our door to buy some Aardvarks we sold them most of our Yellow Squadron's birds as they were mostly hanger queens (down for maintenance).
I had the opportunity to ride a yellow squadron bird and at first was quite hesitant on taking the offer as this plane suffered more crashes during peacetime than during the entire Vietnam war and the yellow birds were the least reliable so you could sense my apprehension. Plus we had on average one crash per year at our base, all of them yellow squadron.
But it was the ride of a lifetime and not too many people can boast that so I wen chance em!
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Originally posted by craigwatanabe View PostI was the tech of the month at my airbase so I got the chance to ride the F-111 and we did break mach on the deck. Amazing experience when you pass the speed of sound, suddenly the roar of the engines quiet down and all you hear is the sound of the radio's and your breathing.
Then there was the barrel roll and the 3-g climb then the inverted dive and lunch
I think we popped a few rivets on the fuselage coming outta that dive.
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Originally posted by lavagal View PostI for one think this is pretty terrific; I'm a military jet junky and have flown in just about everything but a fighter and even got to work on the Stealth and the Shuttle while at Edwards AFB in the Mojave--as a computer operator on the ground grunt! My chances of flying in a fighter are probably nil since I'm a mom now!
But I am CERTAIN that Buzz1941 will have something to say about the P-8As.
Then there was the barrel roll and the 3-g climb then the inverted dive and lunch
I think we popped a few rivets on the fuselage coming outta that dive.
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Poseidon. Wasn't that one of the original disaster movies?
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Its official name is now the P-8A Poseidon. Its predecessors were the Neptune and the Orion. Apparently the Navy likes Greek mythology.
Miulang
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Originally posted by helen View PostA touch and go landing would be the sort of thing a cargo plane would use to deliver cargo in a combat situation.
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Originally posted by joshuatree View PostI would think slower and better loitering time makes more sense for a sub hunter since a turboprop will still outrun any ship or sub.
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Originally posted by helen View PostYou mean the plane don't stall when the engines don't produce enough thrust to make the plane go fast enough to generate enough lift to overcome the drag on it.
Originally posted by helen View PostA touch and go landing would be the sort of thing a cargo plane would use to deliver cargo in a combat situation.
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Originally posted by joshuatree View PostI still think a turboprop is better suited to loitering over open areas for extended periods but these days
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Originally posted by helen View PostAre they still building C130?
On one hand using turboprops make sense since they can fly slower and lower, while a jet can cover an area much faster.
I would think slower and better loitering time makes more sense for a sub hunter since a turboprop will still outrun any ship or sub. But these days, it's all about economics and given that our military spending with this war in the mideast has been through the roof, I don't think Congress would have approved funding to design a P-3 prop replacement from scratch. So converting a proven civilian plane like the 737 for sub hunting made more sense.
My mistake, the ATR is an Italian and French company, not Spanish.
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