Da' Pidgin English Thread

[GregLee]

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... a PIDGIN language... is a language derived from people of various backgrounds and languages (like 3 or more) and coming together into one common language fo make mo betta fo understand each otha... a creolean language is the baby of the language. ass why hawaii creole is just referred to as "pidgin"... calling it pidgin IS SPEAKING PIDGIN technically.

I don't know much about pidgin myself, not being local, but I thought I'd just follow this up, briefly, as a sort of memorial to Carol Odo, who was local, born on Kauai and went to school here on Oahu. She got her doctorate in linguistics at UH in the 70s and wrote her PhD dissertation on the phonology of Hawaiian English, which was her term for what you probably call pidgin. The term "Hawaiian English" reflected her view that the local variety of English here was simply a local dialect of American English, differing only in detail from the many local dialects of American English you'd find on the mainland (e.g., my midwestern English). It was doubtless influenced in the past by Hawaiian plantation pidgin, and probably by what is sometimes called Hawaiian Creole English, but that's not what it is now. It's not a pidgin, and it's not a creole, it's just English.

Carol Odo died earlier this year at 69.

[dakamaainahaole]

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Sorry fellers and felleresses,,,,,, I don't understand that Pidgeon stuff.

think li dis... when a mommy (and her twin) and a daddy language come togedda they make "manage-a-twa" aka a PIDGIN language... is a language derived from people of various backgrounds and languages (like 3 or more) and coming together into one common language fo make mo betta fo understand each otha... a creolean language is the baby of the language. ass why hawaii creole is just referred to as "pidgin"... calling it pidgin IS SPEAKING PIDGIN technically.

BTW, i AM trying fo make revive the 'chred, dis, li dat... who's on baord!!!???

[dakamaainahaole]

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K den. I try. Dis da edumicatanil chred. Li'dat?

shoots, shegoya? edumatinal thread lol... k-den, da buggah wen go shaks on da kine, yanoya?

[Mokihana]

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Fo real?

Oh wow, dakine luna say I stay too, uh, nevah enuf talk!
Mus be portagee websight!

Foa shua Portagee website if need moa den 10 words so I jass going keep wala'au till nomo room anden I stay go get in pilikia cuz I stay so Portagee. So dea.

[cyleet99]

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Here is the definition of a "pidgin" language. To me, a lot of what I read and hear of Hawaiian pidgin is very much like the local African-American slang in coastal SC.

Some words I have heard there, but haven't heard here:

chirren (children)
grands (grandchildren)
acks (ask)
runnin' off (diarrhea)
got da weak eyes (looks sick)

That's just what I can think of right now.

[Walkoff Balk]

Re: Da' Pidgin English Thread

Ho da kusai.
Smell um, Had make um.

[tutusue]

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Living in Makaha for so many years has had it's advantages. I can easily understand this thread but I can't contribute to it!

[Kaonohi]

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Sorry fellers and felleresses,,,,,, I don't understand that Pidgeon stuff.

Barry, it's like Cockney, but different....
And it's not about birds (pigeon) but "pidgen" whatever that means (I'm certain someone here will know...)

[Barry]

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Sorry fellers and felleresses,,,,,, I don't understand that Pidgeon stuff.

[Kaonohi]

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Fo real?

You must post at least 10 characters in a message.

Oh wow, dakine luna say I stay too, uh, nevah enuf talk!
Mus be portagee websight!

[cyleet99]

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No, das stink-eye, not oddah kine stink....

[Walkoff Balk]

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Who make fut?

[Likeke]

Re: Da' Pidgin English Thread

u no da kine! un'real tread, li'dat.. but, u no da kine, I love this tread!

"SMALL KINE, PUINSAI!!"

[GypsyLika]

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Hala bumbai some bookbooks going come stay go kaukau dat ilio.

Wot you call one bookbook wit moe den tree(3) dogs?

1 shepard.



Andnevamind making huhu az prejadice la dat. Juss jo-king. Pose to laff not rage.


Bumbai den...

[TATTRAT]

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