Hawai'i Superferry - Chapter 3

[Miulang]

Re: Hawai'i Superferry - Chapter 3

Don't hold your breath. History has the tendency of repeating itself throughout the generations. One generation screws the next and so on.

You've noticed that too, eh, Mel?

Miulang

[mel]

Re: Hawai'i Superferry - Chapter 3

Good luck, Aaron. Make sure that in the process of cleaning up the messes your parents and my generation are leaving for you to clean up, that you don't create more messes for YOUR kids and grandkids at the same time!

Don't hold your breath. History has the tendency of repeating itself throughout the generations. One generation screws the next and so on.

[Miulang]

Re: Hawai'i Superferry - Chapter 3

All I meant is I'm 30 and you are probably in your 50-60s
(based upon your ultra conservative views).I'm going to be living here in Hawaii and dealing with your generation's screwups after you are dead and gone.

Good luck, Aaron. Make sure that in the process of cleaning up the messes your parents and my generation are leaving for you to clean up, that you don't create more messes for YOUR kids and grandkids at the same time! (P.S. As you get older you tend to grow more realistic about how things are supposed to run. Many of us makule guys thought the way you do when we were your age too! We used to say, "never trust anyone over 30"...now we gotta say "never trust anyone over 70!")

Miulang

[Konaguy]

Re: Hawai'i Superferry - Chapter 3

Just the kind of reaction I'd get from the typical, anti-development, anti-progress user. No biggie. If you and all the obstructionists win, no big deal. You'll get what you want and island residents just lose out on another travel and transport option. If the Superferry sails, well I'll be on a trip to Kawaihae and you can just stay at home. No one is forcing you and the obstructionists to use it.

In the meantime, just in case I die before any of this happens, I will tend to my funeral arrangements and you can come and laugh there or make a silly post here... Mel's dead. That is what you want. Thanks for being so honest in expressing to see my demise.

Mel,
You are living in a dream land. You don't know who I am or what I stand for.
If you bothered to read my blog you'd see I'm not who you think I am. That
being said typical Mel response, you bitch about new taxes..but when taxpayer funds are being used to fun a strictly private venture...Mel is silent ?
Talk about being a hypocrite to the max.

As for the other comment, you totally misinterpreted what I meant.Just like
you paint everyone a liberal,environmental wacko,etc just because they don't
agree with you. All I meant is I'm 30 and you are probably in your 50-60s
(based upon your ultra conservative views).I'm going to be living here in Hawaii and dealing with your generation's screwups after you are dead and gone.

[MadAzza]

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Read that to mean "Maui Democrat legislators".

"Maui Democrat legislators" is incorrect; that should read "Democratic legislators."

Lately, many Republicans (nationally and locally, but more so locally) have displayed an aversion to the proper adjective form of "Democrat," which is "Democratic." (For Republicans, both adjective and noun forms are the same.) They seem not to want to label their political counterparts as being "democratic," which has another meaning when lowercase, so they avoid using the term "Democratic" as well.

It makes them look and sound childish.

You will notice this anytime you read or hear quotes from local politicians. They make themselves look uneducated and petty when they insist on using bad grammar to try to make a political point.

through, over, around and without

.

"Yet these other modes of interisland transportation aren't going to be subject to the same environmental impact statement requirements demanded by the Superferry?"

So just go ahead give them all a free ride like we --that is, of course, not "we" but the East Coast's FAA*...as if that "-- do give joyriding helicopter companies through, over, around and without the clouds of any island for which any captalUSt can work up the money to initiate and maintain operations.

It'll just be a superferry through, over around and without our islands' waters wherever the US Department of War, US Department of Home Security, US Department of Defense, US*Department of Transportation , and, to some decimal extent whoever may be US's Hawaii governor at the time, decide is legal, permitted andor necessary.

[kimo55]

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aw Mel, no make li'dat!

[mel]

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Mel,
You are looking at this Super Ferry option through rose colored glasses.
In other words totally oblivious to the potential impacts this service may
bring. .....(snipped).... As I'll be living here long after you are dead and gone.

Just the kind of reaction I'd get from the typical, anti-development, anti-progress user. No biggie. If you and all the obstructionists win, no big deal. You'll get what you want and island residents just lose out on another travel and transport option. If the Superferry sails, well I'll be on a trip to Kawaihae and you can just stay at home. No one is forcing you and the obstructionists to use it.

In the meantime, just in case I die before any of this happens, I will tend to my funeral arrangements and you can come and laugh there or make a silly post here... Mel's dead. That is what you want. Thanks for being so honest in expressing to see my demise.

[Konaguy]

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Aaron, do you know if Garibaldi has revealed who the Big Island Superferry advisory board members are yet? I have not seen boo about this, or about the Kauai representatives...only know who the Maui reps are.

Miulang

No I have not reading anything about that. I suspect since service to the Big Island is not going to commence until 2009 I believe..It may be awhile before
they get around to naming a commitee..

[Miulang]

Re: Hawai'i Superferry - Chapter 3

Aaron, do you know if Garibaldi has revealed who the Big Island Superferry advisory board members are yet? I have not seen boo about this, or about the Kauai representatives...only know who the Maui reps are.

Miulang

[Konaguy]

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The Democrats from Maui have been making the biggest noise on the opposition of the Superferry which presents Hawaii residents with another travel option that a lot of people are looking forward to. But the obstructionist, enviro whackos and the few from afar in the great Northwest would rather put a halt to the whole thing rather than give this option a chance.

Mel,
You are looking at this Super Ferry option through rose colored glasses.
In other words totally oblivious to the potential impacts this service may
bring. Take Kawaihae Harbor for example, in my opinion the infrastructure
there is totally inadequate for the SuperFerry.Who is going to pay for
that infrastructure upgrades at the neighbor island harbors. We all know you hate tax increases, so I suppose any tax increase to fund it is big no-no.
Why are we using 40 million of our taxpayers dollars to get SuperFerry off
the ground ? I'm frankly surprised Mel, with your no new taxes spin, you
are not first one in line to bitch about the latter.

I don't consider myself a environmental wacko. If you bother to read
my blog..you'd get much different impression. Nonetheless I have strong
reservations about the SuperFerry. Compounding it is the unwillingness of
SuperFerry management to be forthright and honest with the people of
Hawaii about potential impacts of their service.

We all know Mel, you got your blinders on to these impacts.You'd rather
not accept they exist, just because SuperFerry is all great and cool. I
on the other hand am looking at the bigger picture.As I'll be living here
long after you are dead and gone.

[Miulang]

Re: Hawai'i Superferry - Chapter 3

The Democrats from Maui have been making the biggest noise on the opposition of the Superferry which presents Hawaii residents with another travel option that a lot of people are looking forward to. But the obstructionist, enviro whackos and the few from afar in the great Northwest would rather put a halt to the whole thing rather than give this option a chance.

But then after 3 topics with numerous posts mostly opposing the Superferry, this is not expected given the outspoken population who are championing the defeat of this economic option. A typical pattern of thought for HT.

Click here for more.

Mel, I'm not saying NOT to have the Superferry go to Maui. But if you lived on Maui and had to contend with the nightmare that the increased traffic will cause in the Kahului area, you'd say "put it somewhere else on Maui" too. It's not even about the environment, but it IS about the congestion in the harbor area that is causing the local residents a lot of angst right now. Both Garibaldi and the State acknowledge that Kahului Harbor is the port that's going to cause the biggest problems for Superferry because it is already overoccupied.

Miulang

[mel]

Re: Hawai'i Superferry - Chapter 3

The Democrats from Maui have been making the biggest noise on the opposition of the Superferry which presents Hawaii residents with another travel option that a lot of people are looking forward to. But the obstructionist, enviro whackos and the few from afar in the great Northwest would rather put a halt to the whole thing rather than give this option a chance.

But then after 3 topics with numerous posts mostly opposing the Superferry, this is not expected given the outspoken population who are championing the defeat of this economic option. A typical pattern of thought for HT.

Click here for more.

[Miulang]

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Except for (powerless) Halford, that is redundant. heh.

Yeah, the district Chris Halford represents has lotsa rich snowbirds and McMansions...and cows.

Miulang

[poinographer]

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Read that to mean "Maui Democrat legislators".

Except for (powerless) Halford, that is redundant. heh.