"desperate housewives" slur against filipinos

[Mike_Lowery]

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Doesn't even have to be foreign; I have many friends who worked to lose their accent developed from growing up in the American South, because they knew people equated that accent with "hicks."

Good point. this reminds me; we have a tendency to start a witch hunt for foreigners, when the problem is most likely domestic. Oklahoma City bombing, for example.

[Leo Lakio]

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It's a dangerous pairing of prejudice and human nature to equate a foreign accent with inferior ability.

Doesn't even have to be foreign; I have many friends who worked to lose their accent developed from growing up in the American South, because they knew people equated that accent with "hicks."

[cprompt0806]

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co-sign. American policies for licensure professions, education, and the academy are rooted in discriminatory immigration practices. I work with (not for) public schools, and too often do I see Filipino/a students being retained for 1 or 2 years to "adjust" to US public ed. Nearly all of the time, these students are smarter than their peers because of the Phlippines' accelerated public ed system (high school is completed at age 16). It's a dangerous pairing of prejudice and human nature to equate a foreign accent with inferior ability.

Amen to that.

[tutusue]

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Tutusue,

Iki or Nui, i don't know the diff. I was guessing with the Nene bird view. I don't think I have EVER been to Nui or Iki. [...]
Anyway, i still don't know the difference between Nui and Iki. To me, no difference.

Ok. But with all due respect, Kam, since you demand accuracy from others, hopefully you will also demand accuracy from yourself. Both Waialaes Nui and Iki are communities, be they cold and sterile or not, that have existed on Oahu for a long time. And, no, I don't live on either ridge. I live in Makaha, among your "people". That's my preference.

Oh, and in the name of edumacation <g> below is an aerial of the area you mentioned. I sure wish I knew how to upload a larger jpeg, such as in the photo sharing thread, without getting an error message! I need some edumacation!

The home I linked to is the only thing I could find in metro Honolulu under 500K. It is between Nuuanu and Downtown whatever that's called.

Please understand why I thought you linked to a home on Waialae Nui or Iki. Here's what you wrote:

ericncyn says it gets you "multimillion dollar home on Halekoa Drive up Waialae Iki.

http://www.hicentral.com/properties/...19451&type=mls

This is a 35 year old whopping 600 square foot beauty on barely 2000 sq feet of land which just had a layer of paint thrown on to keep the walls standing.

All yours for just 485,000.

Lumping together the Halekoa Dr./Waialae Iki reference with the link to the 600 square foot house made it appear as if the latter was located within the former. There was no clarification.

No problem, tho'. My only point in mentioning this very off topic subject is my hope that, just maybe, you'll come to expect of yourself that which you expect of other HT posters. The old Golden Rule thingie...!

Before I forget...and in the name of going even further off topic...that was a very nice gesture you made on the divorce lawyer thread.

Ummm...Halekoa Dr. is Waialae Nui, not Waialae Iki. Probably not much of a price difference between the 2 ridges except for, possibly, the older, smaller homes on lower Halekoa Dr.

That's lower Nuuanu, not Waialae Iki...or Nui. Still...heaven help that place should the termites stop holding hands! 400 sq. ft. in Makaha is looking even better than it usually does!

Tutusue,

Iki or Nui, i don't know the diff. I was guessing with the Nene bird view. I don't think I have EVER been to Nui or Iki. Not my friends, not my family, not my people. Too cold and sterile. Silly people that spend uku bucks to live in Hawaii within a jog of the beach and yet have swimming pools. Pools up on the hillsides for mosquitoes and mud and leaves to gather.

Anyway, i still don't know the difference between Nui and Iki. To me, no difference.

The home I linked to is the only thing I could find in metro Honolulu under 500K. It is between Nuuanu and Downtown whatever that's called.

I said Nurse Practitioners earn more than General Practitioners, after expenses. I know you have a hard time w/that reading comprehension,,,

Numbers Mortgage Broker. We need numbers. Your statement above is false. Maybe there is 1 or 2 nurse practioners who end up with more than a volunteer M.D. working the Nanakuli clinic but that is the exception, not the rule.

If M.Ds wanted to be altruistic and help people, why not become a nurse with less schooling and yet earn more money? Oh, wait, that's what the supah smat Philippine trained M.D.s are doing. I get it. They are the only smart ones. All the rest of the M.D.s are just too stupid to know what they are doing.

So why isn't there a wave of American trained M.D.s becoming Nurse Practitioners? Shouldn't there be some who would rather have less responsibility and yet make more money

You guys have been sticking your heads in places where toxic fumes have caused at least temporary brain damage. Maybe just use the toilet paper instead. One of the great inventions of the west, even this Hawaiian has to admit.

Numbers broker. Give us some numbers. Or you can just keep trying to insult me. Good luck.

[MixedPlateBroker]

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I'm not looking it up cuz I know what the answer is and it is obvious. Most are in the 200000 to 500000 ranges for mid-career M.Ds. ...

Bottom line is that you and your squeeze continue to claim that Nurses earn more than Doctors and that is why Filipino trained Doctors choose to be nurses.

You have not cited ANY real M.D. numbers to prove YOUR point. Why would anyone continue to go to 12 or more years of college so that they could earn less than someone who went to college for 5 or 6 years?

What's obvious is that you don't know what you're talking about, you're a lazy ass AND a blind mullet.

You never asked for "M.D. numbers" in your original question, so don't try to rewrite HT history just because you can't disprove my answer. If you had completed your assigned Googling like you were supposed to you'd have all the numbers you need.

You're the only one saying "Nurses earn more than Doctors." I said Nurse Practitioners earn more than General Practitioners, after expenses. I know you have a hard time w/that reading comprehension, but didn't you at least get to Olive on SRA??

And why would anyone spend buku time and resources going to school to become a physician if there's no guarantee they could make more than a Nurse Practitioner? Maybe for the same reason a person would choose to serve in the armed forces rather than play professional football. But apparently the concepts of altruism and the pursuit of knowledge (not only for its own sake, but to serve others) are foreign to you.

You can keep hawking your sour lemons, "information" you pull out of your ass and passive-agressive racism. No one's buying.

[tutusue]

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[...]ericncyn says it gets you "multimillion dollar home on Halekoa Drive up Waialae Iki.

Ummm...Halekoa Dr. is Waialae Nui, not Waialae Iki. Probably not much of a price difference between the 2 ridges except for, possibly, the older, smaller homes on lower Halekoa Dr.

http://www.hicentral.com/properties/...19451&type=mls[...]

That's lower Nuuanu, not Waialae Iki...or Nui. Still...heaven help that place should the termites stop holding hands! 400 sq. ft. in Makaha is looking even better than it usually does!

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wow, kamuelakea. with each downwardly spiralling, desperately shrill post, you illustrate to all that your lack of cognition knows no bounds.

Your response above is nothing more than a string of hyperbolic meaningless words which have nothing to do with anything.

Care to cite some M.D. incomes in Hawaii to prove your point?????

Care to explain how nurses making 100K can purchase homes worth 20 times (you said multimillion dollar) their annual income.

No worry. I undastand. You went private school. No can help. How much tuition your parents spent so you could debate like this and use lines like "like my pilau okole"

BTW, do you ever tell mixedplateborker to "like your......". And does he?

Just curious

Aloha

[cynsaligia]

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wow, kamuelakea. with each downwardly spiralling, desperately shrill post, you illustrate to all that your lack of cognition knows no bounds.

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There was an article in one of the dailies -- earlier this year about the severe shortage of GPs (not so much the specialists; you got it backwards) on the Big Island as many have closed shop. Guess why. Thanks for the laugh though. I needed that.

I know exaclty why. SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. The same system that Hawaii's plantation Democrats are so PROUD of creating. It was great at providing FREE health care for the masses but destroyed medicine.

But you are confusing various Healthcare issues.

Bottom line is that you and your squeeze continue to claim that Nurses earn more than Doctors and that is why Filipino trained Doctors choose to be nurses.

You have not cited ANY real M.D. numbers to prove YOUR point. Why would anyone continue to go to 12 or more years of college so that they could earn less than someone who went to college for 5 or 6 years?

If what you say is correct, then the Medical Profession no longer exists.

Things are bad in Hawaii but not that bad,,,,, yet.

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most of the nurses i work with are regular RNs, not even NPs, and they live on halekoa drive in multimillion dollar homes themselves, are spending big bucks adding another story to their home, and drive two luxury cars

Hmmmm, what would "Six figures" or at least 100K qualify you for? Maybe you should get out the yellow pages and try your best to find an honest Mortgage Broker. If they are honest, they should tell you that 3 to 4 times your annual income is a good rule of thumb as long as you don't have any other significant car payments, alimony etc.

So what would 400K or even 500K get you in Honolulu today?

ericncyn says it gets you "multimillion dollar home on Halekoa Drive up Waialae Iki.

http://www.hicentral.com/properties/...19451&type=mls

This is a 35 year old whopping 600 square foot beauty on barely 2000 sq feet of land which just had a layer of paint thrown on to keep the walls standing.

All yours for just 485,000.

Lets summarize ericncyn;

1) Most homes on Halekoa Drive are UNDER 1 million, maybe 1 or 2 are "multimillion)
2) Your rich nurses could only get a loan for 300K to 500K if they really wanted to stretch.
3) They could only purchase a home on Halekoa if they;

a) Got a suicide loan from a Mortgage Borker (Neg am, no interest, ARM)
b) Happened to save an extra 500K in change for a down payment
c) Married a rich MD who could actually buy the house for them.
d) Work 2 jobs while abandoning their children at grandma's house or with strangers at daycare.

You still dont add up.

BTW, wea U wen grad? Was it Iolani? Seriously.

Aloha

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[kiwidiva]

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good on you cyn! i actually watched that episode and it did irritate me at the time - then i got an email about it from a filipina friend of mine and was glad to hear that someone was irked enough to do something about it.

i've been to the philippines (i loved it!) and my cosmetic surgeon there was top notch (for the record, my doc was trained in the u.s. but practices in manila - specialising in 'medical tourism' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_tourism) he makes a very good living out of operating on foreigners (many americans) who can't afford (or are unwilling) to pay the high price for elective surgeries here in the u.s. my procedure would have cost more than twice what i paid in p.i. and it was an absolutely positive experience for me and i'm looking forward to having more work done there if (when) i need it in the future.

the other side of that assumption that md's who got their degrees in the philippines are inferior is that docs trained in america must be superior and i just don't agree with that. there are good and bad everywhere. it's like that joke, "what do you call the guy who graduates last in his class at medical school? ... doctor!"

so where you got your medical degree is irrelevant to me (although i know it's all important in this liability obsessed culture) - and it must be irrelevant to the hundreds of thousands of people who travel to the philippines, singapore, india and thailand (remember don ho's attempt at radical heart surgery that was unavailable in the u.s?) to have the surgery they want or need. all we care about is that you do it right!

anyway i digress! back on topic, you have my support and you can guarantee that if the cultural insensitivity was against MY people - i would be doing the HAKA!

also for the record, no my plastic surgery wasn't for female genital enhancement!!!

[PoiBoy]

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I have and have had many Filipino friends over the years. You know who I've learned is most vicious in their attacks against all things Filipino? Yes you do. Its Filipinos. You know what I mean because I bet you do it in private. I have been on the other side of the arguement many times try to convince them that they play second fiddle to no one and have much to be very proud of in their culture and people.

this is true... and sad

[cynsaligia]

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Point taken. I apologize for being insensitive in my comments.

Still hurts to be called 'stupid' for making a typo, but oh well.

I have a feeling I'm not welcome here anymore. Nice knowing you and and everyone.

nikki, i'm sorry--i said your assertion was stupid. i definitely did not say you were stupid. (big difference, in my book) i hope you reconsider, bcs i will resoundingly say that you are most certainly not "not welcome," by me or anyone else here.

on the other hand, maybe now you can see why the DH flip line upsets me so, even if they didn't directly say my people are inferior...

let me say again that i apologize--truly.