"desperate housewives" slur against filipinos

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hey go google Dr. Jorge Camara, Dr. Elenita Alvarez, etc who are filipino and are rated #1 in their profession. i know there's more but what the heck go google yourself.

Eh,. gooogle dis right heeah. ANd google to you too.

[Mike_Lowery]

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some stuff from the net about healthcare workers in the US originally from the PI:

USAToday story on PI doctor & his choices to become a nurse in US

piece from workpermit.com illustrating why it's attractive for PI MD to decredential & be a US nurse

standards for foreign MDs wanting to work as US MDs...direct quote from American Medical Association president included.

I'll paste an except from that last link here:




seriously, anyone who wants to make blanket statements about the inferiority of physician training in the PI versus in the US, or about the inferiority of filipino physicians who learned their trade in the US and now practice as MDs in the US can lick my dirty ass for what such statements are worth. you simply cannot work as an MD in the US without passing certain standards, whether you were trained at a US med school or elsewhere.

i work daily, not only with MDs originally from the PI, but from MDs from china, india, and other nations. i'm privy to info about any MDs who have "gone bad" by acting disrespectfully or by practicing below standard. four years of doing what i do for my organization has shown me that foreign-trained MDs who pass credentialling in the US are just as good as the MDs who went to US schools.

co-sign. American policies for licensure professions, education, and the academy are rooted in discriminatory immigration practices. I work with (not for) public schools, and too often do I see Filipino/a students being retained for 1 or 2 years to "adjust" to US public ed. Nearly all of the time, these students are smarter than their peers because of the Phlippines' accelerated public ed system (high school is completed at age 16). It's a dangerous pairing of prejudice and human nature to equate a foreign accent with inferior ability.

[CranBeree]

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ericcyn,

I read your links. They leave out the big WHY. THat is WHY these Filipino M.D.s can't come to the U.S. and become an M.D. You said you work with many foreign born M.D.s and they are good? So how could those Chinese, Indians etc. come to the U.S. and become M.Ds while the Filipinos have to become nurses? I don't know the answer, I'm just asking.

The arguement in your links was that they make way more as a U.S. nurse than they do as a Philippine Doctor. Okay, so wouldn't they make even more as a U.S. Doctor? Don't Doctors get paid more than Nurses in general?

The line in the show was not an attack on "FILIPINOS". It was a line that alluded to an education recieved in the Philippines (one could substitute Grenada or Panama). It’s the same kind of attitude like "oh, you went public school" from the Iolani or Punahou crowd.

hey go google Dr. Jorge Camara, Dr. Elenita Alvarez, etc who are filipino and are rated #1 in their profession. i know there's more but what the heck go google yourself.

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my dirty ass

ericcyn,

I read your links. They leave out the big WHY. THat is WHY these Filipino M.D.s can't come to the U.S. and become an M.D. You said you work with many foreign born M.D.s and they are good? So how could those Chinese, Indians etc. come to the U.S. and become M.Ds while the Filipinos have to become nurses? I don't know the answer, I'm just asking.

The arguement in your links was that they make way more as a U.S. nurse than they do as a Philippine Doctor. Okay, so wouldn't they make even more as a U.S. Doctor? Don't Doctors get paid more than Nurses in general?

The line in the show was not an attack on "FILIPINOS". It was a line that alluded to an education recieved in the Philippines (one could substitute Grenada or Panama). It’s the same kind of attitude like "oh, you went public school" from the Iolani or Punahou crowd.

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seriously, anyone ...... can lick my dirty ass for what such statements are worth.

Really? Link? How about we at least exchange photos first, then coffee? Are you height weight proportional? Or may get right down to business?

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"Prisoner dancers"???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnk7lh9M3o

[Random]

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The Philippines does have some of the world’s nicest people, the best looking women and definitely the best prisoner dancers. Now is that all racist?

"Prisoner dancers"???

[cynsaligia]

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some stuff from the net about healthcare workers in the US originally from the PI:

USAToday story on PI doctor & his choices to become a nurse in US

piece from workpermit.com illustrating why it's attractive for PI MD to decredential & be a US nurse

standards for foreign MDs wanting to work as US MDs...direct quote from American Medical Association president included.

I'll paste an except from that last link here:

The American Medical Association, through its president, Dr. Ronald M. Davis, sent a strongly-worded protest letter to Stephen McPherson, president, ABC Entertainment Network in Burbank, California, calling the slur "insensitive and appalling," and demanding for "an apology to our physician membership and to the Filipino physician community."

Dr. Davis stated that "over 25% of the US physician population are international medical graduates who had to pass numerous tests and clinical assessments before entering graduate medical residency training in the United States," and that "to suggest that a particular segment of the physician population is somehow less qualified than other physicians because of where he/she went to medical school is offensive, unfair and discriminatory."

....

The anesthesiologist of former president Ronald Reagan, when he had colorectal surgery, and when he had prostate surgery, was a Filipino. Former president Bill Clinton also had a Filipina physician when he had his knee surgery.

All one has to do to gauge the competence and performance of the Filipino physicians in the United States is to ask Nancy Reagan, Hilary Clinton, all those millions of patients of the Filipino physicians, and their American colleagues, who refer them patients. The inspiring testimonial and expression of support from the two distinguished and giant organizations of physicians in the United States, the American Medical Association and the American College of Surgeons, are a strong testament to the American institution’s high regard and respect for the Filipino physicians who are graduates "of some med school in the Philippines."

seriously, anyone who wants to make blanket statements about the inferiority of physician training in the PI versus in the US, or about the inferiority of filipino physicians who learned their trade in the US and now practice as MDs in the US can lick my dirty ass for what such statements are worth. you simply cannot work as an MD in the US without passing certain standards, whether you were trained at a US med school or elsewhere.

i work daily, not only with MDs originally from the PI, but from MDs from china, india, and other nations. i'm privy to info about any MDs who have "gone bad" by acting disrespectfully or by practicing below standard. four years of doing what i do for my organization has shown me that foreign-trained MDs who pass credentialling in the US are just as good as the MDs who went to US schools.

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In undergrad, people would talk about Panama and Grenada (I think) as places to go to med school if you didn't get in in the USA.

It is a common conclusion that they are easier to get into.

Would there be equal outcry if they had substituted Grenada or Panama?

Fact is there are differences between the training of health care professionals in the US versus the Philippines and I don’t recall Manila being the center of medical research or achievement. That’s not a racist remark. Its just a fact.

The Philippines does have some of the world’s nicest people, the best looking women and definitely the best prisoner dancers. Now is that all racist?

[Mike_Lowery]

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Sadly, it's the truth for a lot of immigrant professionals. You should see how many NYC cabbies have MD's, JD's, and PE's.

It's the people who don't understand the "joke" on the show that should be ashamed.

[Menehune Man]

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The show should be pulled off the air! (Joke)
For that comment to be broadcast nationwide.
Calling a whole group (racial even) substandard.
Funny the inequities that go on in this world, eh?!

See how ridiculous it can all get?

[TATTRAT]

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It may be offensive, but people actually DO say things like that, and if her character is a ditz, then this is something likely to come out of her mouth. If people get uptight and PC about everything on TV, TV will really start become even more lame than it already is.

I guess that why I watch HBO and Showtime. No punches pulled there.

I think the statement offends the Phillipine government, laws, and standards of practice and not so much it's people.

I say lighten up.

So True. Agreed.

[nikki]

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It may be offensive, but people actually DO say things like that, and if her character is a ditz, then this is something likely to come out of her mouth. If people get uptight and PC about everything on TV, TV will really start become even more lame than it already is.

I guess that why I watch HBO and Showtime. No punches pulled there.

I think the statement offends the Phillipine government, laws, and standards of practice and not so much it's people.

I say lighten up.

I agree. Thank you.

[tikiyaki]

Re: "desperate housewives" slur against filipinos

It may be offensive, but people actually DO say things like that, and if her character is a ditz, then this is something likely to come out of her mouth. If people get uptight and PC about everything on TV, TV will really start become even more lame than it already is.

I guess that why I watch HBO and Showtime. No punches pulled there.

I think the statement offends the Phillipine government, laws, and standards of practice and not so much it's people.

I say lighten up.

[CranBeree]

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You are correct that some filipino doctors have to practice as nurses but it all depends upon the state they live in. Some state legilatures have allowed them to practice WITHOUT passing the test. Yes, they have to be "board certified" but the legislature granted that certification to them. They did not pass the test.

Like I said, this has occured with a handful of health care professions.

recheck your facts or provide a link...