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    Quote Originally Posted by doc1456
    I just realized I drank three cans of soda that were a month passed their expiration date (the date that was on the bottom of the can). When I took a closer look, the bottom was corroded for sitting in the cooler. I guess the previous owner didn't clear out the sodas and now the current owner (my boss) thought they were new. There's water bottles in there also, but they don't look old.

    Will I be okay after drinking those stuff, or should I go to the doctor?

    Really,. . . too late now anyway, I think. Drink lots of fresh "good" water, and if you ingested any toxins, the extra fluids that you take in will dilute the toxins. I doubt also if you have done yourself any harm. The damage to watch for is usually in the kidneys or liver. So, like I said, drink clear water, and drink it over the next 72 hours, until your "pee" is coming out very clear, ie) almost like the water you drink.

    Try not to worry about it. What's done is done, and now you need to concentrate on the remedy, and not get too stressed. I am a nurse, and if you came into our ER, this is what we would advise you to do at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ojosverdesdegato
    Really,. . . too late now anyway, I think. Drink lots of fresh "good" water, and if you ingested any toxins, the extra fluids that you take in will dilute the toxins. I doubt also if you have done yourself any harm. The damage to watch for is usually in the kidneys or liver. So, like I said, drink clear water, and drink it over the next 72 hours, until your "pee" is coming out very clear, ie) almost like the water you drink.

    Try not to worry about it. What's done is done, and now you need to concentrate on the remedy, and not get too stressed. I am a nurse, and if you came into our ER, this is what we would advise you to do at this point.

    Malama Pono,

    Claudia
    Just don't drink more than a gallon of water at one time...that'll kill ya.

    Adrian something tells me that if you drink only water for 72-hours, don't consider driving or doing any computer repair during the last 36 hours okay? The body needs nutrition and water doesn't provide enough of it. Lack of proper nutrition and certain organs start to shut down including the liver and kidneys.

    OH and Adrian...when Claudia writes "ie" she doesn't mean Internet Explorer okay She's Illustrating an Example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigwatanabe
    Just don't drink more than a gallon of water at one time...that'll kill ya.

    Adrian something tells me that if you drink only water for 72-hours, don't consider driving or doing any computer repair during the last 36 hours okay? The body needs nutrition and water doesn't provide enough of it. Lack of proper nutrition and certain organs start to shut down including the liver and kidneys.

    OH and Adrian...when Claudia writes "ie" she doesn't mean Internet Explorer okay She's Illustrating an Example.

    (LOL)
    Hope I didn't sound like I was advising ONLY water...I just meant to increase the amount of clear fluid, especially water. And yes, if someone were to drink an overdose of water, it can cause many problems, starting with the "hemolysis " of Red Blood Cells, thereby leading to a deficiency in Poatssium, which "could" lead to irregular heartbeat, and hence a heart attack. Too much water at one time can also lead to a condition called "Diabetes Insipidus". . . but it would be difficult to drink THAT much water.
    . . . And, sorry, I didn't read all the thread. I jumped in before I read it all. For some reason I thought I was only the third poster. Duh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by doc1456
    I got that nickname from Boy Scouts, when I used to always carry a first aid kit.


    That's the first time I saw someone refer to me as a female. wow.
    Well then Adrian....... change your Avatar to a boy... and we will not think or mistake you are a female..... he he he...
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    Default Re: Is drinking old sodas bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by ojosverdesdegato
    (LOL)
    And yes, if someone were to drink an overdose of water, it can cause many problems, starting with the "hemolysis " of Red Blood Cells, thereby leading to a deficiency in Poatssium, which "could" lead to irregular heartbeat, and hence a heart attack.
    A female runner, in either the '99 or '00 Chicago Marathon, died from drinking too much water before and during the race. Just what ojosverdesdegato posted really did happen..the girl drank so much water, in hopes of maintaining her hydration, that her salt levels were thrown all out of whack, and alas, she died out on the course.

    We runners are always advised to drink plenty of fluids during a race, but there comes a time while running the race, when one's body will let you know that one has had enough.. usually about the time when the fluids you take in start to slosh around in one's stomach...that's the time to lay-off of them for awhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ojosverdesdegato
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    Hope I didn't sound like I was advising ONLY water...I just meant to increase the amount of clear fluid, especially water.
    I would think though if you were to take in anything else, your pee would never come out clear. Do you mean murky or cloudy? That would make more sense.

    But Adrian...if your stomach's feeling a bit woosey pop some Pepto or better yet swallow some Charcoal capsules (you can buy em at Long's Drugs Pharmacy). They help absorb some of the toxins in your tummy and pass it thru your system until it's outta da chute as poop!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ojosverdesdegato
    (LOL)
    Hope I didn't sound like I was advising ONLY water...I just meant to increase the amount of clear fluid, especially water. And yes, if someone were to drink an overdose of water, it can cause many problems, starting with the "hemolysis " of Red Blood Cells, thereby leading to a deficiency in Poatssium, which "could" lead to irregular heartbeat, and hence a heart attack. Too much water at one time can also lead to a condition called "Diabetes Insipidus". . . but it would be difficult to drink THAT much water.
    . . . And, sorry, I didn't read all the thread. I jumped in before I read it all. For some reason I thought I was only the third poster. Duh!

    Malama pono,

    Claudia
    Drinking too much water does not lead to diabetes insipidus. Diabetes insipidus will CAUSE you to want to drink more water because it causes you to pee a lot. It has to do with either a malfunctioning of the hypothalmus resulting in a decrease in anti-diuretic hormone (central or neurogenic DI) or a renal problem that disables the kidney's ability to respond to ADH (nephrogenic).

    We see the central form in head traumas, brain tumors, sometimes even strokes. Anything that might damage the pituitary/hypothalmus. As soon as we see a drastic increase in urinary output in these patients we do blood work to detect DI (serum and urine osmolality).

    Because the person who has DI urinates tremendous volumes his electrolyte and acid/base balances often get horrendously screwed up, resulting in critically high concentrations of electrolytes. This can result in seizures, changes in mental status, respiratory crises, cardiac arrhythmias, even death.

    "Water Intoxication" is a different thing altogether. It is most frequently a psychiatric problem (psychogenic polydipsia). We have a "frequent flyer" patient who is obsessed with drinking huge amounts of water. He ends up in the ER with low serum electrolyte levels, often stuporous, sometimes seizing. So he goes to the ICU (yet again) to be fixed up.

    We also had a very sweet elderly lady who ended up in ICU a while back with water intoxication. Her equally sweet and doting elderly husband had filled her with enormous amounts of water. Seems she had been taking medication for a urinary tract infection and the doc had told the hubby to "make sure she drinks LOTS of water." He did just that, good guy that he was, until she became unresponsive. He sat by her bed and cried when he realized what he had done.

    We fixed her too.

    You're right about possible hemolysis of RBC's in water intoxication---never seen it in a clinical setting but I've heard it can happen. The mechanism of potassium imbalance would have more to do with the the hemodilutional effects of the excessive water, I would think?

    And about increasing that clear fluid---does that include vodka?
    Last edited by WindwardOahuRN; September 19th, 2006 at 12:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queenolu
    Well then Adrian....... change your Avatar to a boy... and we will not think or mistake you are a female..... he he he...
    Maybe he’s a boy in real life, but a girl online. Whoah! Transgendered. Sort of.

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    Default Re: Is drinking old sodas bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Queenolu
    Well then Adrian....... change your Avatar to a boy... and we will not think or mistake you are a female..... he he he...
    So, if I change it to an avatar of steve balmer, then everyone will think I'm him?

    EDIT: The water from the water bottle has a weird taste, but no aftertaste. Still, I just chucked the water. I'll tell my boss tomorrow and maybe I can bring in a case later on.
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    Default Re: Is drinking old sodas bad?

    You probably did the right thing tossing those old sodas. I read that they can have high levels of dihydrogen monoxide.

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    I'm thinking that worse than drinking old soda is that you drank three sodas at once...that's one liter!!!

    PS Drinking too much water is one way of doing yourself in, should you be so inclined.

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    I'm thinking he's ok since he's posted elsewhere today...

    I should have told him to take a couple mentos

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    Quote Originally Posted by manoasurfer123
    I should have told him to take a couple mentos
    Nah, nah, nah ... we got enough "mentos" around here as is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo Lakio
    Nah, nah, nah ... we got enough "mentos" around here as is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WindwardOahuRN
    Drinking too much water does not lead to diabetes insipidus. Diabetes insipidus will CAUSE you to want to drink more water because it causes you to pee a lot. It has to do with either a malfunctioning of the hypothalmus resulting in a decrease in anti-diuretic hormone (central or neurogenic DI) or a renal problem that disables the kidney's ability to respond to ADH (nephrogenic).

    We see the central form in head traumas, brain tumors, sometimes even strokes. Anything that might damage the pituitary/hypothalmus. As soon as we see a drastic increase in urinary output in these patients we do blood work to detect DI (serum and urine osmolality).

    Because the person who has DI urinates tremendous volumes his electrolyte and acid/base balances often get horrendously screwed up, resulting in critically high concentrations of electrolytes. This can result in seizures, changes in mental status, respiratory crises, cardiac arrhythmias, even death.

    "Water Intoxication" is a different thing altogether. It is most frequently a psychiatric problem (psychogenic polydipsia). We have a "frequent flyer" patient who is obsessed with drinking huge amounts of water. He ends up in the ER with low serum electrolyte levels, often stuporous, sometimes seizing. So he goes to the ICU (yet again) to be fixed up.

    We also had a very sweet elderly lady who ended up in ICU a while back with water intoxication. Her equally sweet and doting elderly husband had filled her with enormous amounts of water. Seems she had been taking medication for a urinary tract infection and the doc had told the hubby to "make sure she drinks LOTS of water." He did just that, good guy that he was, until she became unresponsive. He sat by her bed and cried when he realized what he had done.

    We fixed her too.

    You're right about possible hemolysis of RBC's in water intoxication---never seen it in a clinical setting but I've heard it can happen. The mechanism of potassium imbalance would have more to do with the the hemodilutional effects of the excessive water, I would think?

    And about increasing that clear fluid---does that include vodka?
    Ypu are correct, my dear collehue. Again I didn't fully expalin my self. I did attend a lecture wherebey it was said that by drinking too much water,one can become water intoxicate, like you said, thus leading to s\"symptom similiar of Dabetees Insipididus. I stand corrected.
    You actually said what I "should" have said. I HAVR seen wated intoxication in a young girl who was trying to diet, and ws only drinking water. Her initial diagnosis was DI, but finally she fessed up, and like you daid it was DI.
    Thanks for setting me straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigwatanabe
    I would think though if you were to take in anything else, your pee would never come out clear. Do you mean murky or cloudy? That would make more sense.

    But Adrian...if your stomach's feeling a bit woosey pop some Pepto or better yet swallow some Charcoal capsules (you can buy em at Long's Drugs Pharmacy). They help absorb some of the toxins in your tummy and pass it thru your system until it's outta da chute as poop!
    No Craig, it does not take enormous amounts of water, to the exclusion of all other foods, to get enough water to turn your pee clear. When ever a person sees that their pee is becoming concentrated, they should always increase their intake of water. Urine should be a light straw coloured, and that can be accomplisehd by drinking a full 8 glasses a day. Coffee, alcohol and soda do not count.
    In Adrian case the extra clear water would counter act the damage a toxin "might" do to his kidneys.
    Just got in from a 12 hour night, so I'm off to bed,. It is0915 here, and I'm down for the count.
    G'night
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadAzza
    You're probably going to die.

    It's too late for the doctor.

    Sorry.
    OMG!!. That's pretty bad!, LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pua'i Mana'o
    Confuscius say:
    try to avoid foods in cans as much as possible.
    Eat fresh and whole as much as possible.
    Drink water.
    And black coffee or tea (no sweetening goop).
    That's a good too, though with "eating fresh food", avoid eating fresh spinach for now.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14841731/ and

    http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/37064/...-hits-the-buzz


    And that's my two cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ojosverdesdegato
    I HAVR seen wated intoxication in a young girl who was trying to diet, and ws only drinking water. Her initial diagnosis was DI, but finally she fessed up, and like you daid it was DI.
    Huh? "Like I said"?

    I hope she went to another doctor. Even the sorriest first-year resident would not have diagnosed water intoxication as DI. The lab results are polar opposites. Some symptoms might be similar, such as changes in mental status. There can be EKG changes in both, but the EKG changes are different.

    The lab values are a dead giveaway, as is the urinary output volume.

    Sorry---the scenario just does not compute. And it definitely was not "like I said."

    Anyway, end of subject for me. I think everyone here has been sufficiently bored by the off-topic slide into medical minutiae.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindwardOahuRN
    Anyway, end of subject for me. I think everyone here has been sufficiently bored by the off-topic slide into medical minutiae.
    Time to go get me an ol' soda, before I get too rusty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo Lakio
    Time to go get me an ol' soda, before I get too rusty.
    Yeah all this talk about fluid intake has gotten me thirsty.

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    This is just funny that you are discussing this topic here and I found an article on it today on the lifestyle section of AOL front page....

    http://www.thatsfit.com/2006/09/11/h...ater-is-enough

    Enjoy reading...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Queenolu
    This is just funny that you are discussing this topic here and I found an article on it today on the lifestyle section of AOL front page....

    http://www.thatsfit.com/2006/09/11/h...ater-is-enough

    Enjoy reading...
    Well I guess HT is so mainstream now even the big dogs must lurk on these pages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigwatanabe
    Well I guess HT is so mainstream now even the big dogs must lurk on these pages.

    ha ha ha... craig.... U dey funie...
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    There are many medical conditions where doing the "eight glasses of water a day" thing is contraindicated. I don't know where that article came up with the idea that this is "new evidence."

    Wouldn't just about anyone realize that overloading on fluids is a bad idea for, say, a person with renal problems?

    And yes, tea, coffee, and any other beverage that contains H2O counts towards water intake. Even jell-o. Just ask anyone who has been on a fluid-restricted diet.

    And....drinking lots of water does not necessarily "flush out toxins."

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