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    Quote Originally Posted by glossyp View Post
    I called the election commission and the first person acted like this was the first thing they were hearing about the problem. Come to find out this was the case for everyone who voted early this morning at that location. They claimed our ballots would still count but I don't believe it. It would explain why they kept having problems feeding the ballots into the machine and said the machine was misbehaving.
    Pomai, I wouldn't worry about that. The ballot-counter was doing the same thing at the precinct where I worked, and my interpretation of it was that it wasn't counting ballots but voters, if that makes any sense. The machine gives a count and you're supposed to be able to reconcile that somehow with the number of ballots that are issued; it makes things easier if the machine counts the number of sets of ballots, rather than the number of ballots. This is one reason the ballots you were issued had the same ballot numbers on them; I'm guessing that the ballot counter was set not to advance until both ballots of matching numbers were inserted.

    Edit: I originally posted this to glossyp, but then saw what her original post said (I'm reading this thread in reverse order so I don't answer something that's already been answered). If you did not receive a second ballot, someone screwed up BIG TIME at your precinct, and I am appalled. Appalled that the precinct chair could let that happen, that the Voter Assistance Official could let it happen, and that the pollbook officials could let that happen. Ridiculous.
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    Iwase just gave his concession speech, calling his supporters to continue to uphold Democratic values.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pzarquon View Post
    ...and just now, a volunteer in a phone bank named Kathy rang me, just in case I forgot today was Election Day.

    At least her number wasn't blocked. Wonder if she called from her personal cell phone?
    Pz, the poll-watchers (assigned by the parties) were getting the names of people on their special lists who hadn't yet voted. You're the son of a serious Democrat in this state, so it wouldn't surprise me too much if you were on the list. I was told by the Democrat poll-watcher in my precinct that she was checking the pollbooks for certain people, to see if they'd voted yet or not, and then sending her list to someone at the party, who would be giving calls, offering rides to the precincts, and basically getting out the vote. That doesn't sound like the same thing as the robocalls.
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    turn on comedy central, gang. There is an insta-repeat of the joint effort (DS/CR) entitled "Midterm Midtacular". Waaaaayyy over the top.

    pax

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    I'm baaaack! Sober.

    The information we got ~ All Votes in except for some walk-in votes which won't matter dat much.

    Karl Wins!

    My Gandule Rice was the talk of the night!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1stwahine View Post
    I'm baaaack! Sober.
    I'm calling bullshit!

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    This is the most exciting election in memory.

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    I dunno, I think the 2000 election was more exciting. Just not in a good way.

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    link

    According to the general election second printout:

    Hawaii County Council district 7 race
    Brenda Ford - 3,600 63.6%
    Virginia Isbell - 2,056 (I) 36.4%

    Hawaii County Council district 5 race
    Emily Naeole - 2,804 57.7%
    Gary Safarik - 2,056 (I) 42.3%

    It looks like along with victories by Dominic Yagong, Bob Jacobson,Pete Hoffmann, and Angel Pilago that there will be solid 6-3 majority that should benefit everyone outside of Hilo.

    On a related note, I am very happy to see Linda Lingle beat Randy Iwase 128,786 vs 78,464 and Mazie Hirono beat Bob Hogue 77,486 vs 44,088. But I am really disappointed that Cindy Evans is beating Bill Sanborn 3,909 vs 2,452 in State House district 7 and Bob Herkes is beating Charles Hosley 3,640 vs 1,323 in State House district 5.

    Lastly I was hoping Cynthia Thielen would beat Dan Akaka for US Senate.But that didn't materialize unfortunately
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadAzza View Post
    I'm calling bullshit!
    Honest. I don't Drink and Drive. I had Leimomi with me!

    Das the first time I went to Chinatown and didn't drink. Eh, no ack. I don't plan to drink alcohol tomorrow either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrivener View Post
    I was told by the Democrat poll-watcher in my precinct that she was checking the pollbooks for certain people, to see if they'd voted yet or not, and then sending her list to someone at the party, who would be giving calls, offering rides to the precincts, and basically getting out the vote. That doesn't sound like the same thing as the robocalls.
    Oh, my call from Kathy wasn't the same as a robocall, that's for sure, but they were both Republican get-out-the-vote efforts... unusual, indeed, given my Democratic leanings. Still, I did briefly manage a Republican's campaign for the state House, so presumably my name is in their database somewhere because of that. It certainly shocked some of my friends to see me marching with the GOP in the Kailua parade back in 2002!

    Speaking of election day observations, Brent Suyama, managing editor of KITV's website, was apparently liveblogging yesterday. All kinds of interesting minutiae that comes with trying to cover several locations live.

    I regret that I wasn't paying much attention at all, beat after a long, long day at work. No surprises in the big races, though I think Iwase and Thielen both did better than some would have guessed, and the Tavares win on Maui was interesting. Turns out I was more interested in how things unfolded on the national level. Definitely remarkable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lei Liko View Post
    I can't seem to recall getting any of those messages here. Is it against the law here to call homes and businesses with messages like that or do we just not do it here?
    Uh, you are here, right? Yes, it's legal for politicians and non-profits to call with recorded messages. They exempted themselves when they passed the law to ban businesses from the practice.

    And yes, Hawaii pollutions do call. I've got the recordings to prove it.

    My guess is that your phone number isn't registered in the right place. My guess is that neither Democrats nor Republicans have figured you as "one of them" so neither one bothers you.

    * Yes, I know "pollutions" is wrong, but my spellchecker suggested it. I decided I liked it's suggestion better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith H. View Post
    Now it comes down to Montana and Virginia.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pua'i Mana'o View Post
    unreal...Dems might take both the House and the Senate...Missouri went Dem, so only two left (MT and VA), and VA might have to do a recount...
    CBS News is calling Montana for the Democrats - the balance of power hangs on Virginia - and we may not know for days...or weeks.

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    In our district, no pollwatchers showed up at all. The Last Voter was dragooned into performing that function during shutdown and buttoning up.

    There were so many people rushing in at the end that we feared closing the doors on somebody. We did allow one guy in a minute or two after 6 p.m., but he had been sent to the wrong district by the elections office and he had been THERE before 6. But there was no one locked out -- it worked out, fortunately.

    It was a bigger turnout than usual.

    Although the ballot-counting machine do say NUMBER OF VOTERS, they're actually counting ballots. Each single ballot in yesterday's election, however, consisted of two pieces of paper. We watched it closely, and whether or not it took one piece of paper or two, the number matched the number of ballots that went out, excluding "spoiled" ballots.

    The machine would reject Ballot B if it was blank, because it believed it was in error. The override was to hit the ACCEPT button and the machine would take in the blank ballot.

    We asked voters to feed in Ballot A first, the one with candidates, because that one was more likely to have machine-readability errors. (Yes, voters would do things like cross out errors to change votes, or black out the names of candidates of whom they changed their minds. or just scribble on the ballot. It generally required a whole new pair of ballots to be filled out.)

    It was interesting how many voters shiied away from the electronic ballot machine, primarily because of concerns about fraud. However, on the mainland, the primary fraud problems were with the counting machines and memory cards in those machines.

    Voting accuracy standards are set by every state, which means, of course, there is no consistant set of standards. You'd think this would be a job for oversight by the General Accounting Office, but their hands are tied. Because the control of voting has been turned over to private industry in many states, the potential for fraud is high. That's pretty scary. It may have already swung several key races in the past.

    Solution is pretty simple: An analog trail of votes and full accountability by bipartisan or nonpartisan organizations. It's OK to vote electronically, but leave a "paper tape" of each vote cast so it can be recounted. The machines used in Hawaii allow each voter to examine exactly what their votes were on the paper tape before casting it.

    And how long before Lingle appoints Hogue to some position?
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    Quote Originally Posted by buzz1941 View Post
    Solution is pretty simple: An analog trail of votes and full accountability by bipartisan or nonpartisan organizations. It's OK to vote electronically, but leave a "paper tape" of each vote cast so it can be recounted. The machines used in Hawaii allow each voter to examine exactly what their votes were on the paper tape before casting it.
    Yup, and that's exactly what I did when I voted early at Honolulu Hale last week.

    Interesting perspective, Burl. If you don't mind me asking, what position did you hold at the polling place and how much did you earn?

    I don't know if I would call the Hawaii elections "exciting" this year. Nationally, yes, but it seemed our local elections were kind of boring.

    Maybe I'm being too lazy, but I haven't seen it anywhere else yet: What was the total voter turnout? Anyone know?

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    My position was Poll Official (that's a rank-and-file position) and I think the pay is $85 for about 13-14 hours work. It ain't the money, although SB people could always use a little scratch. (I took a vacation day.) It's just a matter of pitching in as a citizen.

    Because I had actually used the electronic voting machine before, I was tagged as the district "expert." Which means I figured out how to set it up and take it down. The people who used it in the General also used it in the Primary. About 1/10 of our votes cast were electronic.

    My 17-year-old daughter did it too. She said the most eye-opening part for her was the extreme care in maintaining security of the "chain of custody" for the ballots. Lots of witnesses and affadavits of stuff placed under seal. BTW, the Last Voter is a legal witness to the shutting down and sealing of the ballot box, which means if you're the last voter, you're locked in for maybe an hour after the polls close.

    We were assigned a district not our own, but close to home.

    Our impression yesterday was that turnout was better than expected in our little district. May have been different elsewhere. We were in the heart of Cynthia Thielen country.
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    AP has called Virginia for Webb.

    The Democrats pulled it off. They control both Houses of Congress.

    I really didn't think that could/would happen. Wow.

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    Whee! Let the investigative hearings begin!

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    Asking Dems to stick to Democratic Values.....????.....would love to know what those are??

    Surrender concepts of right & wrong to more aggressive cultures??
    Reward sloth with entitlement??
    Regulate business until the bottom line crumbles??
    Promote mediocrity to crush individual achievement???
    Save the Planet instead of the Humans???
    Ensure that liability is never a function of choice or accident???

    Dem Values......that is a concept worth exploring.
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    Well, it didn’t take long for one of our standard thread de-railers to show up and twist this one into his standard anti-liberal rant. Hopefully, the other two don’t show up with the same agenda.

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    Well, General Election Day is over. Thanks for the fun!

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