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    very surprised and disappointed to read this article about how jackson will not be hired to film tolkien's "the hobbit"...

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061121/...ure_jackson_dc
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    They sure have BIG shoes to fill ,and not with hobbit feet.
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    The latest news....New Line is stupid. EW report
    Peter Jackson and the Lord of the Rings franchise — the two go together like Frodo and Sam. At least they used to. Last week, Jackson and partner Fran Walsh announced on TheOneRing.net that New Line had informed them that they ''would no longer be requiring our services'' for two upcoming Tolkien-based films, The Hobbit and a LOTR prequel. Moreover, the duo said the studio is ''actively looking to hire another filmmaker.''
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    What a bummer. They did great as film makers for the others. Wot's up?
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    I too am disappointed. I bet they'll be really surprised when the Hobbit tanks.

    So I take it Sir Ian Holm and John Rhys Davies wont be in this movie either?

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    With all the money Jackson made on the LOTR films, why can he just by the rights? Did he spend it all on King Kong?
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    Entertainment Weekly has the lastest on this Hell On Middle Earth Report.
    WHAT'S THE PROBLEM?
    Money. Jackson's Wingnut Films filed a lawsuit against New Line in 2005, asking the studio to fully disclose all revenue from The Fellowship of the Ring, including international box office, DVD and TV sales, and merchandise like videogames and action figures.
    New Line is stupid....nuff said!
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    It is starting to get ugly.....
    The feud over "The Hobbit" is getting hotter and meaner.

    In the most recent sturm und drang over J.R.R. Tolkien's fantasy novel, long-discussed as a project for "Lord of the Rings" helmer Peter Jackson, New Line co-chairman Bob Shaye told Sci Fi Wire that Jackson would never direct "The Hobbit" as long as Shaye is running New Line.

    New Line, which released the "LOTR" trilogy, is in a public feud and lawsuit with Jackson over money the helmer says is owed him from the "Rings" pics. Trilogy grossed more than $3 billion worldwide in ticket sales alone.

    "It will never happen during my watch," Shaye said of Jackson directing "The Hobbit" along with an "LOTR" prequel. New Line and MGM own the rights to both films.
    Looks like HELL in Middle Earth

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    Reading the article confirmed my suspicions that Shaye is trying to deflect attention from New Line's lack of transparency about the monies. It's hard to imagine anyone other than Jackson directing The Hobbit or the prequel. The phrase "Good luck with that" comes to mind if New Line thinks they can find someone who could do half the job of Jackson.

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    Like Peter Jackson said as reported by EW magazine....Like Jaws 4 "this time it's personal".
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    Quote Originally Posted by glossyp View Post
    The phrase "Good luck with that" comes to mind if New Line thinks they can find someone who could do half the job of Jackson.
    Actually, my phrase have only two words for New Line and Mr. Shaye: Screw You.

    Here's hoping the agreement expires before New Line got something going, and Tolkien Enterprise can collaborate with PJ and Miramax.

    (No, PJ cannot buy the right until the agreement is expired.)

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    Maybe they based their decision after seeing the recent King Kong.
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    I worked on the bonus edition DVD's for LOTR and The Two Towers as an assistant editor, and after seeing how Jackson did those movies, the Hobbit will most definitely not be as good as the LOTR trilogy. New Line are complete morons for not using Jackson. The passion and attention to detail he and the WETA workshop put into those movies was unthinkable.

    The people who were in charge of LOTR at New Line are probably not the ones working on this new Hobbit project, cos' they fully supported Jackson during the making of LOTR.

    Amazing what greed can do to art.

    That being said, I thought King Kong was pile of crap. Being that it was one of Jackson's favorite movies, I guess his love for the movie clouded his judgement in what makes a good movie. The King Kong story was just not that interesting, and Jack Black was the wrong guy for that movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tikiyaki View Post
    That being said, I thought King Kong was pile of crap. Being that it was one of Jackson's favorite movies, I guess his love for the movie clouded his judgement in what makes a good movie. The King Kong story was just not that interesting, and Jack Black was the wrong guy for that movie.
    That is an interesting insight. I wondered how he could do LOTR so perfectly and then KK was horrible. Lack of perspective caused by love for the story.

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    For some reason I was reminded of this

    Have you seen The Star Wars Holiday Special? From what I heard the studio wanted to milk the cash cow and didnt use Lucas and this is what they came up.
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    Looks like New Line gave Middle Earth the middle finger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tikiyaki View Post
    That being said, I thought King Kong was pile of crap. Being that it was one of Jackson's favorite movies, I guess his love for the movie clouded his judgement in what makes a good movie. The King Kong story was just not that interesting, and Jack Black was the wrong guy for that movie.
    Well, King Kong is not my favorite as a franchise, though the original is barely tolerable to watch, only to be ruined by the 70's modern take.

    So, what was wrong with PJ's version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinjin View Post
    Maybe they based their decision after seeing the recent King Kong.
    So they refused to disclose their accounting book for auditing because KK flopped???

    That's a pretty weak and lame defense.

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    So they refused to disclose their accounting book for auditing because KK flopped???

    That's a pretty weak and lame defense.
    Actually, King Kong is the 36th top-grossing movie of all time:

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    Quote Originally Posted by buzz1941 View Post
    Actually, King Kong is the 36th top-grossing movie of all time:

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/
    But what was the NET?

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    I wonder if any progress has been made, and if so... in what "direction".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menehune Man View Post
    I wonder if any progress has been made, and if so... in what "direction".
    Without Peter Jackson, it's gonna be the wrong direction.

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    I found this interesting....
    On the eve of what is expected to be the biggest Spider-Man yet, Entertainment Weekly learns that director Sam Raimi is seriously interested in directing The Hobbit, a choice that could potentially leave Spidey 4 without a director — and, says Kirsten Dunst, a leading lady.
    Although I want to see the Hobbit made, IMO... this could spell disaster for BOTH movie franchises, neither could work without Jackson or Raimi.


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    Best for Sam Raimi to stick with the [i]Spider-Man[/i franchise or if he's bored, do another Army of Darkness sequel.

    IMSNHO, no one but Peter Jackson should do Hobbit. No one, Mr. Shaye.

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    Here's the latest news on this much wanted film:
    a bitter feud between Rings director Peter Jackson and New Line Cinema co-chairman Robert Shaye — may finally be nearing resolution. For once, there's reason to be cautiously optimistic. At this writing, no agreements have been announced and details of the negotiations are sketchy (neither New Line nor Jackson's camp would comment to EW on any aspect of this story), but sources close to the talks tell us that they're detecting a lot less frost in the air, and that a deal may be reached that could help usher J.R.R. Tolkien's maiden Middle-earth masterpiece to screens before the end of the decade.
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