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    Does anybody know if Barak Obama is in town for the holidays? I could have
    sworn I saw him last Sunday when I took family to Honolulu Hale to see the lights. As I pulled up to the intersection by Honolulu Hale a group of folks walked in crosswalk in front of us leaving H.H. That is where I thought I saw Barak Obama, and if it wasn't it was his twin brother!

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    Yes, he got here last Saturday, as I recall. You can look at the websites of the Star-Bulletin and the Advertiser and read the stories.
    For instance: http://starbulletin.com/2006/12/20/news/story10.html and also http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ap...0372/1171/NEWS
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    His middle name is Hussein. The same as good old Saddam. Interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlohaKine View Post
    His middle name is Hussein. The same as good old Saddam. Interesting.
    And? I suppose you have some glib punchline for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlohaKine View Post
    His middle name is Hussein. The same as good old Saddam. Interesting.
    Educate yourself AlohaKine so I don't have to do it for you:
    http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/n...ic-naming2.htm - Arabic naming conventions

    Also, Hussein is a relatively common name within Arabic. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Husayn_%28name%29

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deep Thought View Post
    Educate yourself AlohaKine so I don't have to do it for you:
    http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/n...ic-naming2.htm - Arabic naming conventions

    Also, Hussein is a relatively common name within Arabic. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Husayn_%28name%29
    I didn't say I was for him or against him or Arabs for that matter. They said the same thing on KSSK, kind of made me laugh. Not a big deal. And yes I know it is a common name, but the name's still the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manoasurfer123 View Post
    Well 3 Newstations were there as well as both Newspapers...
    (as well as a youtube reporter ) So I guess someones interested.
    Obviously a slow news day. A very very slow news day.

    That youtube reporter asked two important questions.... who would be a good running mate....and when would the official announcement be made.
    How would that group know when an announcement would be made? They're not part of Obama's camp. They might as well have asked them if Elvis was still alive, too. Or where Jimmy Hoffa is buried.

    Abercrombie was nill on the first question and said that it would probably be on Oprah when he does make the announcement.
    "Probably"? He's just guessing. Again, not newsworthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlohaKine View Post
    His middle name is Hussein. The same as good old Saddam. Interesting.
    Wak Wak Wak Wak!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beachboy View Post
    Does anybody know if Barak Obama is in town for the holidays? I could have
    sworn I saw him last Sunday when I took family to Honolulu Hale to see the lights. As I pulled up to the intersection by Honolulu Hale a group of folks walked in crosswalk in front of us leaving H.H. That is where I thought I saw Barak Obama, and if it wasn't it was his twin brother!
    Nice, is there still a 25 million dollar reward for information on him?

    /I kid, I kid!

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    http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...870192564.html
    Abercrombie and other Hawai'i-based Obama supporters are scheduled to hold the press conference in front of the Prince Kuhio Federal Building at 12:30 p.m
    TODAY!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by manoasurfer123 View Post
    TODAY!!!
    Why the excitement? All "today" is about is a group of Obama's supporters urging him to run. No announcement from the man himself.
    Unless it's Abercrombie that you're excited about. In which case, I recommend medication.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LikaNui View Post
    Why the excitement? All "today" is about is a group of Obama's supporters urging him to run. No announcement from the man himself.
    Unless it's Abercrombie that you're excited about. In which case, I recommend medication.
    Well 3 Newstations were there as well as both Newspapers...
    (as well as a youtube reporter )
    So I guess someones interested...

    That youtube reporter asked two important questions.... who would be a good running mate....and when would the official announcement be made...

    Abercrombie was nill on the first question and said that it would probably be on Oprah when he does make the announcement.... Abercrombie also predicted that it would be the most watched Oprah Winfrey EVER!

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    Angry The things a network would do for an Obama story

    http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/19/fox-obama-madrassa/

    No wonder republicans don't push education in their campaigns--they can keep the citizenry ignorant about the truth. As you may know, Obama's not Muslim. But check out this segment from the video in the link above:

    CARLSON: Alright, Jim from Alabama, what do you think?

    DOOCY: Jim?

    CALLER: Yeah.

    CARLSON: What do you think?

    CALLER: I think a Muslim would be fine in the presidency, better than Hillary. At least you know what the Muslims are up to. [Laughter]

    CARLSON: We want to be clear, too, that this isnít all Muslims, of course, we would only be concerned about the kind that want to blow us up.
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    Default Re: The things a network would do for an Obama story

    Eh, the spin machine is just getting an early start. No surprise at all, after what they did to Kerry (not that I like him, but it's all very similar).

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    I suspect the Republicans will sit back and let the Clinton camp do the dirty work against Obama. Why should they expend the effort when HRC and crew are the ones most threatened by him? As many will recall, when the Clinton team goes full bore against someone it is devastating.
    Last edited by glossyp; January 21st, 2007 at 10:09 AM. Reason: clarity

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    Quote Originally Posted by glossyp View Post
    I suspect the Republicans will sit back and let the Clinton camp do the dirty work against Obama. Why should they expend the effort when HRC and crew are the ones most threatened by him? As many will recall, when the Clinton team goes full bore against someone it is devastating.
    I doubt either the Clinton or Obama camp will find much more dirty laundry to air about each other; both have had their peccadillos pretty well documented already, Hillary while she was the President's wife and Obama in his own tell-all autobiographies.

    On the Republican side, it's too bad that W turned out to be such a dufus. His bro Jebby had his sights on the Republican Presidential nomination in 2008, but because of all the bad press his older brother has garnered, he's now a man without a goal, and Jebby is way more effective as a politician than his bro ever will be.

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    I just don't like his ideas about gun control. We need to enforce the laws on the books now.

    Gun Control removes the rights of LAW ABIDING citizens to have self-protection. It DOES NOT prevent the CRIMINALS from having guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bard View Post
    Eh, the spin machine is just getting an early start. No surprise at all, after what they did to Kerry (not that I like him, but it's all very similar).
    Here's the latest one:
    The Washington Times' Insight magazine first claimed that Barack Obama was raised as a Muslim. Fox News picked up the charge on two of its programs, and the New York Post followed. "The allegations are completely false," says Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs. "To publish this sort of trash without any documentation is surprising, but for Fox to repeat something so false, not once, but many times is appallingly irresponsible."
    More here.

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    If you look at who owns Fox and The Times/Sunday Times (U.K.), it becomes apparent that Rupert Murdoch may be supporting HRC. Fox is the only mainstream media outlet which aired the Obama/Madrassa allegations while across the pond the online version of The Sunday Times ran a very positive analysis of Clinton's campaign under the title Hillary runs for the White House as 'new Thatcher'. Down with Obama, up with Clinton - could be a trend to watch from Mr. Murdoch's media empire.

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    And CNN apparently likes Obama (or wants to make Faux News look stupid---or maybe both), because they have done extensive research on the grade school in Indonesia (even sent a CNN reporter to talk to the school's administrator and a former classmate of Obama):

    But reporting by CNN in Jakarta, Indonesia and Washington, D.C., shows the allegations that Obama attended a madrassa to be false. CNN dispatched Senior International Correspondent John Vause to Jakarta to investigate.
    ..."I came here to Barack Obama's elementary school in Jakarta looking for what some are calling an Islamic madrassa ... like the ones that teach hate and violence in Pakistan and Afghanistan," Vause said on the "Situation Room" Monday. "I've been to those madrassas in Pakistan ... this school is nothing like that."

    Vause also interviewed one of Obama's Basuki classmates, Bandug Winadijanto, who claims that not a lot has changed at the school since the two men were pupils. Insight reported that Obama's political opponents believed the school promoted Wahhabism, a fundamentalist form of Islam, "and are seeking to prove it."

    "It's not (an) Islamic school. It's general," Winadijanto said. "There is a lot of Christians, Buddhists, also Confucian. ... So that's a mixed school."
    The cable channel also devoted a segment on its morning shows to this story.

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    Wow! Whether one supports Obama or not, this is a great video...so well done. It states that it's a "supporter created video" but, to me, this supporter is very accomplished and well connected in the entertainment industry...or, has a ton of bucks and knows someone who is! I'd love to know who's responsible for it's concept and production.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tutusue View Post
    I'd love to know who's responsible for it's concept and production.
    Songwriter/Producer will.i.am (from Black Eyed Peas) & Director Jesse Dylan (Bob's son).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo Lakio View Post
    Songwriter/Producer will.i.am (from Black Eyed Peas) & Director Jesse Dylan (Bob's son).
    Will.i.am and John Legend are currently on Larry King Live in support of Obama and a snippet of the video was aired. America Ferrera rounds out the celebrities representing youth and this election. Interesting.

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    An interesting post from The New Republic about the upcoming Dem primary here and whether or not Obama will be able to beat back the establishment Dems to win. One demographic detail which I was unaware of was that HRC was a 3:1 winner over Obama amongst Asian American voters in CA and NY. One amusing bit in the comments was from Rhubarbs:
    Democrats on the Mainland should remember that the corruption of Hawaii's Democratic establishment is pretty quickly turning paradise back into a Republican state. When Marion Barry and Hawaii's Democratic machine line up behind one candidate, that should be a pretty strong indictment of that candidate. "Four out of five corrupt Democrats agree: Vote Hillary!"
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