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  • What makes Hawaiian music what it is?

    One of the things I do for fun is to compare different genres of music like pop, rock, jazz, classical. What do you guys think makes a song "Hawaiian" - besides the artist being from Hawaii?

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    Re: What makes Hawaiian music what it is?

    I don't consider music to be Hawaiian just because the artist is from Hawaii. I break down my Hawaiian music into 2 major categories, Hawaiian and Island Contemporary. Of the 2 categories I will subdivide them into more sub-categories.

    Hawaiian:
    `Oli/Mele - Some Keali`i Reichel, Hula Halau CDs, etc...
    Traditional - Older Hui Ohana, Sons of Hawaii, etc...
    Contemporary Hawaiian - Bros. Caz, Ho`okena, Holunape, Na Palapalai, etc...
    Kihoalu - Keola Beamer, Led Kaapana, etc.

    Island Contemporary:
    Old School - Country Comfort, The Alii's, anything pre 1990, etc...
    Jawaiian/Reggae - Hoaikane, BET, Natural Vibes, Ooklah the Moc, etc...
    Contemporary: Na Leo, `Ale`a, Jake, etc...
    Rock - Surf Psycho Sexy, Sunburn, Tone Deaf Teens, etc

    To give examples, my media library under Hawaiian is all songs that are 99.99% Hawaiian language. Each song can be performed at Merrie Monarch in competition without any penalty for English words. Everything else is under Island contemporary. I would consider Iz more island contemporary than Hawaiian in his music. Similar with most of the latest Bros. Caz stuff. I have most of Ho`okena's music as Hawaiian but I have "The Prayer" with Maila Gibson as island contemporary because almost half of it is in English.
    You can take the boy out of Hilo but you can't take the Hilo out of the boy!

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      Re: What makes Hawaiian music what it is?

      The ability to take a hit song, make a half -ass cover of it, then get people to love it.
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      • #4
        Re: What makes Hawaiian music what it is?

        I see it differently:

        Mele Hawai'i: na mele i haku 'ia a himeni 'ia ma ka 'olelo Hawai'i.

        Hawaiian music: music composed and arranged in homage to the musical styles reknown throughout Hawaii. The subgenres in this category are diverse and many. Half of it is the music and the other half is the lyric.

        On a side note, AB that was obnoxious. Hawaiian music, not just island music.

        pax

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        • #5
          Re: What makes Hawaiian music what it is?

          Here's a good read dealing with this topic....

          http://www.aroundhawaii.com/entertai..._category.html

          DD
          www.myspace.com/chrislunainstrumentals

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          • #6
            Re: What makes Hawaiian music what it is?

            One of the most identifying traits, as someone who grew up far away from Hawaii, and knows not that much about real Hawaiian music, is the sound of the lap steel guitar...the Hawaiian tuning used on that instrument gives a sound that makes on immediately think of Hawaii, and no other place.

            There are country tunings for the same instrument that make one immdeitaely think of Nashville, but the Hawaiian tuning on lapsteel, and it's beautiful, lilting sound, quickly identify itself as "Hawaiian" when I hear it.

            Whether or not that is what "real Hawaiian" music is, I'm not best suited to answer, but universally, that sound is the one that seems to be identified with Hawaiin music. I could be mistaking that for the old hapa haole stuff too.
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            • #7
              Re: What makes Hawaiian music what it is?

              Hawaiian music is our soul & identity to the world

              As a slack key player myself, I consider the english lyric songs Hapa and the contemporary stuff local jams.

              Traditional Hawaiian music got to include the Hawaiian Lyrics! If you really want to get traditional, it has no guitars or ukulele, and only the oli!

              Here is a video I would like to share of my friend and i playing Kihou'Alu and contempory Hawaiian stuff. I am no professional and only a backyard player so no laugh how I sing..
              http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x25lhs_slack

              Aloha

              Layne

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              • #8
                Re: What makes Hawaiian music what it is?

                Thanks for your input everyone. Layne - Good job. I won't mention the acoutics however......

                Does anyone know what tuning sytem is used on the lap steel guitar? Also, has there been any wriiten system been developed for hawaiian music? Not just a translation in classical mode - but it's own unique system (as is with jazz music)?

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                  Re: What makes Hawaiian music what it is?

                  Originally posted by acousticlady View Post
                  Thanks for your input everyone. Layne - Good job. I won't mention the acoutics however......

                  Does anyone know what tuning sytem is used on the lap steel guitar? Also, has there been any wriiten system been developed for hawaiian music? Not just a translation in classical mode - but it's own unique system (as is with jazz music)?

                  Howzit Acousticlady!

                  Haad fo tell I live by a major highway! LOL!

                  As for the lap steel guitar many different players had different tunings. I was once told of a story about an old steel player called Joe Gang. When Gabby Pahinui was young ,he would go to see this man and he had all his tunings written on the wall.
                  I know for one that they use the C 6th or open c tunings on steel guitar

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                  • #10
                    Re: What makes Hawaiian music what it is?

                    Originally posted by acousticlady View Post
                    Thanks for your input everyone. Layne - Good job. I won't mention the acoutics however......

                    Does anyone know what tuning sytem is used on the lap steel guitar? Also, has there been any wriiten system been developed for hawaiian music? Not just a translation in classical mode - but it's own unique system (as is with jazz music)?

                    It depends on how many strings your lap steel is. I have 6 string. The guy who shredded it up on my record has a dual 8.

                    He told me his tuning which is ...

                    hi to low G E C A G E C G A ( I think ) The A is what gives it that Hawaiian sound.

                    On the 6 string I've used that tuning minus the 2 lower strings.

                    I used another one, but forgot what it is right now.
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