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    I find it funny that Tunisia is exactly geographically 'opposite' from the area near Fiji where the plane crashed. (thank you see-thru globe!)
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    What was the deal with Frank the pilot dropping the lostPhone to the castaways? It seemed like he was making a concerted effort to conceal it from Keamy before leaving the freighter, but I don't get how he could then drop it at the beach without being detected. Or for that matter, why Keamy wouldn't just make him land on the beach directly so he and his men could wipe out the whole group. If Keamy wanted Jack et al to follow them, why would Frank hide it?

    Adoloescent Locke's drawing of the smoke monster shows a deeper and earlier connection with the island than ever displayed. Remember the first season he was the first to stare Smoky in the eye and we've yet to know what he saw. And was Richard's "interview" with him set up solely to infuse an inner determination within? (He told his teacher something to the effect of "Don't tell me what I can't do!" Am I imagining a similar declaration when the travel agency told him he couldn't go on walkabout because of his wheelchair?) And the fact that Abbadon pretty much packed his bag for the walkabout makes it pretty clear there was nothing random in Locke getting to the island.

    And did it seem like Claire's personality had completely changed from the two or so lines she had in the cabin? She's always been kind of harpy/uptight, but there she seemed so relaxed, so "at home" while with dear old dad it was really creepy to me.

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    After 4 years, Lost finally shows a part of Oahu as itself, in this case the Kalaeloa Airport (used to be known as the Barbers Point Naval Air Station).

    Multiple flashforwards of 5 the Oceanic 6 in the episode.
    1) Kate and Aaron coming to the outside world
    2) Sayid meets Naida
    3) Sun getting enough money from Oceanic to buy controlling interest in her dad's company.
    4) Hurley's birthday and the numbers appearing on the fixed up car's odometer.
    5) Jack doing a service for his dad and finally being told that Claire is his sister (I guess the mom recovered from her coma).

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    My wife and I blogged our thoughts in detail on tonight's episode. I liked it a lot, and how all of Season 4 is coming together. She was a little more critical. It was great to finally get the Jack and Claire reveal. And now all that remains is the two-hour finale. In two weeks.

    Locations: The Oceanic 6 arrival was filmed out at Hangar 111 at Barber’s Point. Hurley’s Mansion was along Farmers Road in Kahala. Christian Shephard’s funeral was held at St. Patrick in Kaimuki.

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    I had a good laugh at the kid in the yellow t-shirt at Hurley's party who was looking right into the camera!

    This episode had many great moments. But the worst part? That after another kick-ass episode in the most kick-assingest season of Lost, there is a week off. A DAMN WEEK OFF! I feel like that crackhead in Menace II Society. I want to call the producers of Lost and tell them, "Come on man, hook me up with a new episode. I got these cheeseburgers. They some double cheeseburgers!"

    This now throws off my schedule and in two weeks, when the season finale airs, I will be in Hawaii.

    The last time I was away and tried to watch Lost on the road, it was when "The Constant" episode aired. I ended up watching it on ABC.com on my laptop screen. Certainly not a bad set-up, but "The Constant" turned out to be ONLY THE BEST HOUR IN THE HISTORY OF FREAKING TELEVISION. It was like getting to drink a 1959 Clos des Goisses, but having to do so in a Mimosa made with orange Kool-Aid, out of a Sponge Bob plastic cup through a silly straw. I know, I cried like a bitch when Desmond phoned Penny at the end, but still.

    So... here's what I need: someone who is willing to have me over at their house where we will watch the season finale of Lost.

    Must haves:
    * Big-ass HDTV screen.
    * DVR or TiVo. This is a must so that we can rewind and rewatch the important killer details. Also, so that we can start watching 30 minutes later to zap through some of the commercials.
    * Quiet location.
    * Comfy chairs.

    Come on. I'll bring the fish biscuits. Or these cheeseburgers. They some double cheese burgers!

    I am serious.

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    oh Paul - I so wish I had that big ass screen!!!!! I'm just going to have to make do with my 27" and no cable. So, I have to squint but can still watch the show and enjoy the finale!

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    You got it, Paul. Gimme a call...you have my #. McDonalds is but an elevator ride away. Wine's in the fridge...you'll need to bring anything else.

    Oh...there's even free parking!

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    I watched the episode a second time today, missed the credits about Michelle Forbes being in that episode. I thought that lady from Oceanic looked familier.

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    Brilliant post, Paul.

    If you think watching "LOST" with a crowd sounds fun, you should head down to Tropical Smoothie Cafe on Piikoi, across from Ala Moana on the west/Ewa side. Even though the store is technically closed at that hour, they've held weekly watching parties for "LOST" all season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tutusue View Post
    You got it, Paul. Gimme a call...you have my #. McDonalds is but an elevator ride away. Wine's in the fridge...you'll need to bring anything else.
    Thanks Sue! I'll get in touch next week...


    Quote Originally Posted by anapuni808 View Post
    oh Paul - I so wish I had that big ass screen!!!!! I'm just going to have to make do with my 27" and no cable.
    Aaaiiigh! Stone tools! No cable? Seriously? I know a guy who doesn't have cable, but he also makes his own butter and has marital relations through a hole in a sheet.


    Quote Originally Posted by pzarquon View Post
    If you think watching "LOST" with a crowd sounds fun, you should head down to Tropical Smoothie Cafe on Piikoi
    Too many people = more chance for disaster. It's like drinking. You want to have a good time, drink with a couple of friends. If you get too many drunks in one place at one time, next thing you know a legislature breaks out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Ogata View Post
    So... here's what I need: someone who is willing to have me over at their house where we will watch the season finale of Lost.

    Must haves:
    * Big-ass HDTV screen.
    Will a 70" Sony do? (KDS-R70XBR2). Just wish KITV gave us the 5.1 surround feed too. Oh well, my AVR does a decent job of faking it most of the time.

    * DVR or TiVo. This is a must so that we can rewind and rewatch the important killer details. Also, so that we can start watching 30 minutes later to zap through some of the commercials.
    Got Oceanic's DVR.

    * Quiet location.
    It's usually very quiet here in Hawaii Kai. Only real problem that time of night is if someone gets off the #1 bus at the stop behind my townhouse. Doesn't happen too often that late though. My cat is very quiet as long as she's fed.

    * Comfy chairs.
    My couches and chair are fairly comfy and I have plenty of throw pillows.

    Come on. I'll bring the fish biscuits. Or these cheeseburgers. They some double cheese burgers!

    I am serious.
    Ditto. PM me if interested and I'll give you my number.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Ogata View Post
    Thanks Sue! I'll get in touch next week...
    Ok! But if you get a better offer...go for it!!! I can't compete with a 70" TV! Close, tho'. I'm only 30" off! I'd have to stand in Ala Moana beach park to get the full impact of a set that size hanging on my wall in Waikiki!

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    Default Re: "Lost" - Season 4: Episode & Storyline Discussion

    According to promos airing tonight (5/23/08) on KITV/ABC, the episode that aired on May 15 will be aired again on May 29, this time with extra footage in the episode and then the 2 hour finale.

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    Yes, this coming Thursday, "Lost" will go out with a 3-hour all night bang. The rerun of the May 15 episode and the 2-hour season finale... should be a bang up show that as usual will leave us with more questions and a long dry spell until 2009.
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    And hopefully I'll get to watch this one on a television the night it airs, rather than waiting the next day to watch it on my computer. My new roommate is a Lost fan; I predict popcorn.

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    Lost is still on the TV but Jack and Kate said who was in the coffin during the 3rd season finale. And the name was mentioned again by Walt and Hurley.

    Talk about having "None of the above" as a choice.
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    In a way I am kind bummed that they showed the person in the coffin at the end of the epsiode, but hey it just generates more questions.

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    I'm fine with knowing that Locke was the guy in the box. I wanted to know that since last year's season finale.. and yes, it does bring up new questions... like...

    Why take the dead guy back? Why all of the Oceanic 6 have to go back?

    Claire warned Kate. Don't take Aaron back.

    Ben still has some kind of agenda.

    I hope Desmond and Penny sail away and live happily ever after... but as I vaguely recall, Sayid is supposed to hunting her down isn't he? (my mind is cloudy on this).

    How did the island move? Did Ben activate some kind of large time / space / dimensional transporter device? Was it the same kind of force that blew up the Hatch from season 2? (I'm vague on that, I guess I should watch my unopened box DVD set).

    I had to laugh as the raft approached.... well... Waianae Harbor... I was waiting for that since I had seen Ryan's pics a few weeks ago.

    The explosion of the freighter looked so.... well... CGI. Not very good.

    Is Jin dead? I guess Michael is or does he also survive?

    This episode seemed to have a higher than average body count of series regulars... not to mention the 2nd group that went in the zodiac to the ship. Do they all perish? Or did they move with the island?

    OK... so there is what...8 months until the next season? February 2009 sweeps.
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    I suspect the following issue hasn't been raised yet but it might in future episode(s).

    Oceanic flight 815 goes from Sydney to Los Angeles. Sydney is on the south east part of Australia and I assume that a jet flying would go in an easterly direction to reach Los Angeles flying over water.

    The Oceanic six end up on an island in Indonesia, which is closer to Austraila's north west coast. If Oceanic 815 was iniitially flying in the wrong direction the passenagers would have noticed flying over land on the way to Indonesia.

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    Just finished watching a tape of last Thursday's airing of Part I where it was said there were additional scenes.

    The scenes are in the press conference, they said who survived the crash but died later on.

    this was Boone, Libby and Charlie

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    Finally watched the finale! My Plan A was to catch it at Sue's (thanks, Sue), but I was feeling a bit under the weather and it's never polite to head over to someone's house and give them your germs. So Plan B was to watch it in my room at the Sheraton. Nice wide screen, the listing showed the hotel carried KITV Digital. Sweet. Or so I thought. Just before go-time, I find that although the directory lists KITV Digital, there was no signal. Just a blank screen.

    Come ON! Looks like it was going to have to be Plan C - watching it back at home on the TiVo.

    So I took the opportunity to head over to Brew Moon to grab some stage time at Lanai's show. Somehow, the adrenaline of being on stage gets me through all kinds of pain and sickness. In the past, it has temporarily alleviated a torn ACL, broken ribs, etc. A bit of Lost-deprivation depression was no problem.

    Back on-topic, some questions:
    • Do you think Locke lost his legs, and so the coffin was a bit shorter? (Maybe this was one of the results of "things going bad" on the island.)
    • Jin had to swim back to the island before. Do you think he made it?
    • "The person who moves the island can never return." So what's Ben's plan to get back there? He always has a plan. Probably involves bringing everyone back.
    • Chess with Mr. Eko? Besides Charlie, what other dead people did Hurley see?
    • How many times has the island moved? If you need to destroy the Orchid chamber to get to the island-moving device, does this mean no one's moved it island since the Orchid was built? And then how does Ben know about it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Ogata View Post
    Jin had to swim back to the island before. Do you think he made it?
    The odds doesn't look good for him. For one thing he was standing around the area where the bomb blew up.

    So assuming his limbs were intact after the blast and he survived impacting the water, he has no place to go to. The helicopter was on it's way to the island when the island vanished and it was closer to the island than the ship.

    His only hope is that he was picked up by Daniel's boat or there were more ships in the area searching for Widmore's over due freighter.

    Chess with Mr. Eko? Besides Charlie, what other dead people did Hurley see?
    I don't know if Dave from the 2nd season was a dead person or not, but that is the only other person Hurley has seen that wasn't there.

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    Sorry, post deleted - didn't carefully read the original post my reply was replying to.
    Last edited by NoCal Boy; June 4th, 2008 at 05:48 AM. Reason: Personal lameness

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Ogata View Post
    Finally watched the finale! My Plan A was to catch it at Sue's (thanks, Sue), but I was feeling a bit under the weather and it's never polite to head over to someone's house and give them your germs.[...]
    Oh bummers, Paul. I thought you were curled up in bed, head resting on a bunch of fluffy pillows, covers pulled up to your chin and watching the Lost. Instead you were out making ha-ha's with Lanai!!! It really is amazing how adrenaline can be a temporary "cure".

    Hope the Saturday show went well and that the pressurized plane didn't play havoc with whatever was ailing you!

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