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    :sick: Pass the Dramamine please....

    Really need to find a way of dampening the motion.

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    Yeah, well, like I said. The stuff I'm doing with the Flip Video is pretty random and off the cuff. Walking around while shooting is something I generally avoid. Same goes for long running takes, no edits, no titles... it's as barebones as it gets. I'm enjoying this cheap camera at least in part because it gives me an excuse to not give a damn.

    But, that's par for the course for online clips. I get dizzy with shaky camera work too, but them young kids these days, they eat it up! That's the 'YouTube Generation' for ya.

    If you need some stable, composed, edited stuff to settle your stomach, take a stroll on the Hawaii Superferry. But that video, by contrast, took a couple of hours to assemble. Versus, you know, zero minutes.

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    Have you considered a SteadicamJR?

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    The best way to combat the editing issue, or lack thereof, is to just shoot shorter clips. You kinda have to use it with a short clip mentality, as opposed to a film maker mentality of "shoot everything and edit later".

    Also, the one great thing is the softwares' still photo function of turning one frame into a still. That's very useful.

    Funny also, is when you're using it in public, people pose when you point it at them, because they think it's a still photo camera. You always have to tell them it's video, so they don't stand there like statues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tikiyaki View Post
    The best way to combat the editing issue, or lack thereof, is to just shoot shorter clips. You kinda have to use it with a short clip mentality, as opposed to a film maker mentality of "shoot everything and edit later".
    Indeed. I just went with the 'long walk' clips in that last set just because I could. Not my style, again, but... fun experimentation.

    (Here's another walkthrough clip with the Flip. It's the house we stayed at in Volcano.)

    But the very first night I used the Flip Video, I decided ahead of time I'd just shoot short 30-40 second clips, tops, then use the "Movie Mix" software to simply stitch them together, in sequence, end to end, no muss, no fuss. In that case, I think the end result was pretty good for a push-button composition.
    Funny also, is when you're using it in public, people pose when you point it at them, because they think it's a still photo camera. You always have to tell them it's video, so they don't stand there like statues.
    Heh. Though the Flip Video looks more like a video camera than the camera I usually use to collect video clips, a Panasonic Lumix digital still camera. I just click over to 'movie mode,' but it definitely doesn't look like I'm taking video clips when I'm pointing it at you.

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    That's great. The software applies the crossfades, yea ?

    So, I guess, just keeping the clips short, or the desired length, is the key.

    I gave a FLIP to a good friend of mine who's wife is about to have a baby (any day now) as a baby gift, and him and his wife said it was the most useful gift they received.

    For the price, it really IS a great baby gift for parents with a newborn. Instant documentation, no muss, no fuss, and they can hold the baby AND use the camera at the same time.

    Also, it's probably great at weddings, where they usually put disposable cameras on the tables. Now they can out a flip on each table and get well wishes from all the guests, instead of hiring a camera man for that.

    Wedding videographers are gonna be pissed, but oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pzarquon View Post
    [...](Here's another walkthrough clip with the Flip. It's the house we stayed at in Volcano.)[...]
    Love that place! How'd you find it? And, yah, the Flip does a nice job as does the Flip's operator!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tikiyaki View Post
    Also, it's probably great at weddings, where they usually put disposable cameras on the tables. Now they can out a flip on each table and get well wishes from all the guests, instead of hiring a camera man for that.
    Disposable cameras run in the $5 to $10 range, so getting one for each table is not going to dent the budget but keep in mind the Flip is still running at over $100. If you had a small party with 2 tables then having a couple of Flips shouldn't hurt the budget. But if you had 20 tables, that's $2000. And what would one do with 20 Flips after the party?

    Oh wait, now I remember, the Pure Digital web site had products for one time use camcorders and digital cameras. No idea on the cost of these items.

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    While walking home carrying my dinner with my right hand I managed to take and operate my Flip camcorder with my left hand. I could not do that with my Aiptek cameras.

    I never tried it but the Aiptek iCam has a stablizer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tutusue View Post
    Love that place! How'd you find it?
    Just browsing the web... we'd been eyeing vacation rentals for a while, when our family grew past the "Up to 4 People" limit of most hotel rooms. I sent Jen a list of family-friendly prospects, and of course she picked the one with the hot tub!

    But you want to talk about finding that house? Get this. A prior owner of "Hale Kalani" just came across my video walkthrough on YouTube today. He posted a comment, explaining the improvements he'd made to the place (including the large front and back lanais, and now I know that large side room used to be a garage!). Small world indeed!

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    Another comparsion between the Flip camcorder and the Aiptek DV4100 digital camera taking a video of the fireworks display at the Hilton Hawaiian Village. I had the Flip in my left hand and DV4100 in my right hand when I took the videos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helen View Post
    Another comparsion between the Flip camcorder and the Aiptek DV4100 digital camera taking a video of the fireworks display at the Hilton Hawaiian Village. I had the Flip in my left hand and DV4100 in my right hand when I took the videos.
    I just wanted to say that I really do appreciate all of your comparison videos and pictures, it helps for someone like me wanting to purchase one, but not needing it. It seems as though the FLIP has better quality, however I'm leaning more towards the Aiptek mainly because of the ability to use memory cards for more storage.

    What will I be recording that's more than 60 minutes? You never know...

    I know I just missed a sale at Best Buy for the Aiptek at little less than $90, but we're on a budget, young family, etc., etc. In the meantime, I have more time to research.
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    I'm eyeing the Mustek DV520T. No particular reason, but I suspect the additional 50% on the price brings a significantly better unit. At least that was my impression on playing with it in the store. It does sometimes get put on sale. Much smaller then the Aiptek.

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    I picked up the Flip Ultra Video (2 G, 60 min.) at CompUSA finally. It was $149 plus got a "free" digital keychain with it. Now...to start taking videos! I saw that the 30 min. Flip was only $79 at one of the stores (can't remember which offhand). It wasn't the Ultra..and I think it was 1 G.

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    I noticed that the Sunday's CompUSA ad had then selling the Flip for $129. I did not know that CompUSA was carrying the Flip.

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    is this Flip that you all are talking about anything like the Sony NSC-GC1 Net Sharing Camcorder?

    http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...ng%20Camcorder

    I just won one at my company Christmas party this weekend, but i returned it for a Circuit City credit! Didn't think I'd have much use for it, as I have a digital camera and a camcorder... Now, y'all are making me think i should've kept it...
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    We have a camcorder and cameras too....but I liked the idea of a small, easy to use video camera that could be hooked directly up to the computer for viewing. The one that is $129 at CompUSA is similar to the one I bought for $149......I think the Ultra is supposed to be a bit faster and has better quality than the regular....but haven't tested it yet. Hope to get some good videos when I go to San Diego for my brother's 50th birthday...we're hiring a limo for a wine tasting tour of Temeculah. :-)

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    Just an update of the Flip Video camcorder being put through it's paces during the last 6 or so months.

    Quote Originally Posted by helen View Post
    Not having an external memory card is kind of a borderline thing with me but the fact that the small version is at least 512Mbytes seems to be a good comprise.
    I got the 1Gbyte version which can hold to 60 minutes and I have yet to come across that limiit. I think the most I have used up is around 15 to 20 minutes of video time, but that is mostly taking videos of model rockets going up and not plays.

    Quote Originally Posted by helen View Post
    One thing I sort of noticed is that the filenames of the videos it takes has the date of when it was taken.

    I haven't tried taken videos around midnight to see if the date change happens around that time or not.
    Something to watch out for is February 29, 2008. In 2004 my SiPix SC-3300 digital camera didn't deal with the leap year correctly.

    Quote Originally Posted by InfinityProductions View Post
    It seems as though the FLIP has better quality, however I'm leaning more towards the Aiptek mainly because of the ability to use memory cards for more storage.

    What will I be recording that's more than 60 minutes? You never know...

    I know I just missed a sale at Best Buy for the Aiptek at little less than $90, but we're on a budget, young family, etc., etc. In the meantime, I have more time to research.
    The major minus with the Flip is the lack of a tripod mount which is way more important than having provisions for an external memory card. I don't think I could hold on to an object straight for 60 minutes at one time.

    And as far as what one can record for more than 60 minutes at a time, that would be theatrical plays. I have it done it before using the Aiptek DV3100 (or the DV4100) but a normal 2 act play runs roughtly 60 minutes per act. Back in those days I had to have multiple memory cards and extra sets of AA alkaline batteries to record such a play and even then I had to use a tripod to aim the camera at the stage since I was doing something else (running lights and sound of all things).

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    I was at Comp USA today just to see what they had on sale. Bought a bunch of blank CDs and one of those Flip Video Cameras (30 minute version) for $89. I think this is good for short YouTube clips. Picture is surprisingly clear for such a cheap video camera. Except for it saving to AVI mode (which forced me to download some kind of CODEC files so that the thing works on my Mac with QT Pro) and the previously mentioned, no tripod mount, I can't think of much to complain about. I don't think anyone uses this to create the next great American movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mel View Post
    and the previously mentioned, no tripod mount, I can't think of much to complain about. I don't think anyone uses this to create the next great American movie.
    Mel, they do sell tripods for the Flip Video. I bought one for our Flip Video Ultra Series camcorder through Amazon.com. Granted, it's a dinky little thing and looks more like a book stand.
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    The tripod only works on the Flip Ultra line which is something new, but then again the Flip Ultra has a tripod mount. The original ones don't have a tripod mount at all.

    This link points to the specs page for both the Flip and the Flip Ultra. The Flip Ultra does not make use of external memory cards.

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    The 60 minute ultras are also at CompUSA. I think it was $143.

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    The base price of 2Gbyte (or 60 minute) Flip Ultra is $179. CompUSA is selling them for $126. Had at least another 15 to 20 units left. The other drawback is that it's the white/silver model.

    I did pick one up tonight.

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    So how do you like the Ultra? They had one out on display today. I was surprised at how thick it is.

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    I haven't taken it out of the box yet. Will try it out over the weekend.

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