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    Slow is bad. Slow means more of a chance of flooding, because more rain gets dumped in the same area than if the storm moved quicker.

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    here is a good link to a streaming doppler radar site that shows the progress of the storm...hit refresh avery so often to see the latest action.
    http://www.konaweb.com/flossie.html

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    Oh man that image is amazing. So big and so close. I just hope the Trades keep blowing that thing away from us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by escondido100 View Post
    here is a good link to a streaming doppler radar site that shows the progress of the storm...hit refresh avery so often to see the latest action. http://www.konaweb.com/flossie.html
    Wow, an excellent link. Mahalo nui!
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    Wow, a radar link I've never seen, thanks. The eleven AM bulletin should be out shortly.

    This UH radar map makes it look as if the southern part of BI should already be covered in very stormy clouds. dang, the difference in the maps.

    http://weather.hawaii.edu/satellite/...10&overlay=off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    This UH radar map makes it look as if the southern part of BI should already be covered in very stormy clouds.
    http://weather.hawaii.edu/satellite/...10&overlay=off
    And that image also seems to show that the hurricane's eye is slowly re-forming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mel View Post
    If Flossie threatens Honolulu, and hopefully if the airports on the Big Island are not damaged, then I guess the planes could be flown there to wait it out. Got 2 airports... Hilo and Kona, though Kona can probably be congested if all the private jets are there.
    On this morning's news, they said commercial airlines would fill their aircraft up with fuel to weight them down on the tarmac when the hurricane approaches. For a cat-2 some distance off-shore perhaps. But if it were a category 3 or higher, sound kinda' iffy that would keep even a larger aircraft such as a 767 (plus fuel) put; not to mention the added fire hazard potential.

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    Adding in the 11am advisory (25).

    date and time (HST); advisory bulletin; latitude longitude of eye; distance from Hilo; distance from Honolulu

    08/13 11 am; #21; 15.3N 150.6W; 425 miles SE; 635 miles SE
    08/13 2 pm; #21A; 15.6N 151.5W; 365 miles SE; 570 miles SE
    08/13 5 pm; #22; 15.9N 152.0W; 330 miles SE; 535 miles SE
    08/13 8 pm; #22A; 16.2N 152.5W; 295 miles SE; 500 miles SE
    08/13 11 pm; #23; 16.4N 153.2W; 260 miles SE; 455 miles SE
    08/14 2 am; #23A; 16.6N 153.5W; 240 miles SSE; 440 miles SE
    08/14 5 am; #24; 16.9N 154.1W; 205 miles SSE; 390 miles SE
    08/14 8 am; #24A; 17.0N 154.4W; 190 miles SSE; 370 miles SE
    08/14 11 am; #25; 17.3N 154.9W; 165 miles S; 340 miles SE

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    well I guess if they point the nose of the aircraft towards the wind and keep the flaps down that should help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pomai View Post
    On this morning's news, they said commercial airlines would fill their aircraft up with fuel to weight them down on the tarmac when the hurricane approaches. For a cat-2 some distance off-shore perhaps. But if it were a category 3 or higher, sound kinda' iffy that would keep even a larger aircraft such as a 767 (plus fuel) put; not to mention the added fire hazard potential.
    Hmm, wouldn't it be safer and more effective to load sand bags onto cargo containers and stick'em in the plane's belly?

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    Well here's a pretty picture of Flossie from the NOAA's OSEI Image of the Day
    Last edited by craigwatanabe; March 14th, 2008 at 10:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshuatree View Post
    Hmm, wouldn't it be safer and more effective to load sand bags onto cargo containers and stick'em in the plane's belly?
    But a total loss of aircraft is insurable

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    I don't know but this image looks like it's gonna be realllllly close and the rain just picked up over here in Keaau
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    What about the wind? Any sign of lead-painted Barbie dolls flying around?

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    Quote Originally Posted by helen View Post
    What about the wind?

    no wind. Just passing rain sometimes heavy but no wind. Here it comes again (the rain)

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshuatree View Post
    Hmm, wouldn't it be safer and more effective to load sand bags onto cargo containers and stick'em in the plane's belly?
    Yeah, sand bags.. that's the ticket. Then after the storm passes, the airlines can return them back to Home Depot.

    Winds in Honolulu are beginning to pick up a little, with mild gusts on occasion, and clouds mostly near mauka areas, otherwise partly-sunny.

    Back to you Craig.
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    You mean stopped raining for a while? That's is kind of strange.

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    This is a good report, except for her being so slow and the dumping more rain potential.



    HURRICANE FLOSSIE DISCUSSION NUMBER 25
    NWS CENTRAL PACIFIC HURRICANE CENTER HONOLULU HI EP092007
    1100 AM HST TUE AUG 14 2007

    AT 1800 UTC...UW-CIMMS ESTIMATED HURRICANE FLOSSIE WAS UNDERGOING ABOUT 25 KT OF SOUTHWEST SHEAR. GOOD OUTFLOW TO THE NORTH IS COUNTERED BY HAMPERED OUTFLOW ELSEWHERE AS THIS SHEAR REALLY BEGINS TO TAKE ITS TOLL. AIRCRAFT OBSERVATIONS SHOW FLOSSIE HAS AN OPEN EYEWALL TO THE SOUTHEAST...WITH AN EXTRAPOLATED SURFACE WIND OF 90 KT AS OF 1600 UTC. AN 1800 UTC VORTEX MESSAGE LIMITS THIS SPEED TO THE NORTHEAST EYEWALL...WITH WEAKER WINDS ELSEWHERE. CI VALUES OF 4.5 FROM CPHC AND SAB AS WELL AS 5.0 FROM JTWC...77 KT AND 90 KT...SHOW THIS SYSTEM HAS WEAKENED OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. WE GIVE FLOSSIE AN INITIAL STRENGTH OF 90 KT FOR THIS RUN.

    TRACK GUIDANCE DIVERGES SHARPLY BEYOND 24 HOURS AS EACH MODEL HANDLES THE DECLINE OF FLOSSIE DIFFERENTLY...BUT THE GUIDANCE MEAN HAS CHANGED LITTLE. THE FORECAST TRACK CLOSELY FOLLOWS THE ARC OF THE OLD TRACK...BUT AN INITIAL SLIGHT DEVIATION TO THE RIGHT WAS NEEDED GIVEN RADAR-DERIVED INITIAL MOTION OF 299 DEGREES. THIS WILL TAKE FLOSSIE A BIT CLOSER TO THE BIG ISLAND AT POINT OF CLOSEST APPROACH...BUT CONTINUED WEAKENING WILL MITIGATE THE EFFECT THIS CHANGE WILL HAVE ON THE BIG ISLAND. WE HAVE DECREASED THE TROPICAL STORM WIND RADIUS TO 90 NM WITHIN THE NORTHWEST AND NORTHEAST QUADRANTS BASED ON AIRCRAFT OBSERVATIONS AND SCATTEROMETER DATA. THIS RADIUS IS STILL LARGE ENOUGH TO AFFECT THE BIG ISLAND...PROMPTING CONTINUANCE OF THE TROPICAL STORM WARNING AND HURRICANE WATCH FOR THAT ISLAND. WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE THE NEED FOR WATCHES OR WARNINGS FOR THE SMALLER ISLANDS AT THIS TIME. RADAR SHOWS FLOSSIE FORWARD SPEED HAS SLOWED TO 9 KT AND THIS IS REFLECTED IN THE TRACK FORECAST AS WELL. HURRICANE FLOSSIE WILL PASS SOUTH OF THE MAIN HAWAIIAN ISLANDS...WEAKENING BELOW HURRICANE STRENGTH WITHIN 48 HOURS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helen View Post
    Any sign of lead-painted Barbie dolls flying around?
    Good one, Helen! But wouldn't the lead in the paint weigh Barbie down, kinda like adding gas or sandbags to airplanes?
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    just drove down to honaunau and napoopoo beach. the boat ramp is closed and a county official is kepping people out of the water. however ther was a zodiac boat full of snorklers in the bay there right by two-step. the ocean is dead calm ...no wind but the overcast is building and to the south you can see some clouds stacking up....over at the wharf in napoopoo there was lotsa looky loos in rental cars and a few locals out kayaking the bay...also dead calm seas. the weather channel is broadcasting from south point and they interviewed some residents there. evidently that is the place to be as other beaches and access are closed. there seemed to be dozens of folk down there. the waves are 8-10 ft and the wind looked like it was 30mph or so......the guy they interviewed expects that the show will be spectacular as the day wears on...especially at high tide around 5pm......

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    Maybe I missed something here, but has anyone put up links to live webcams on the Big Island?
    A really quick Google came up with these:

    http://www.thehawaiichannel.com/wxca...90/detail.html

    http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/cam/

    http://www.konaweb.com/#WEBCAM

    http://www.hawaii-kona.com/webcam/index.html

    Any others, folks?
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    KGMB is broadcasting a split screen...regular programming on the right and live shots and occasional graphics from the BI on the left.

    On KITV, Ben Guiterrez (sp?) mentioned a few minutes ago the the eye of the storm seems to be trying to reform.

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    You know with Flossie's effects extending northward you'd think the trades aren't blowing enough of the fringes away which makes me think...if the trades aren't blowing strong enough could Flossie's track move more in a northerly direction as a result?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LikaNui View Post
    Maybe I missed something here, but has anyone put up links to live webcams on the Big Island?
    A really quick Google came up with these:

    http://www.thehawaiichannel.com/wxca...90/detail.html

    http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/cam/

    http://www.konaweb.com/#WEBCAM

    http://www.hawaii-kona.com/webcam/index.html

    Any others, folks?
    http://mkwc.ifa.hawaii.edu/current/cams/index.cgi
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    Quote Originally Posted by tutusue View Post
    On KITV, Ben Guiterrez (sp?) mentioned a few minutes ago the the eye of the storm seems to be trying to reform.
    Ben might've read this post of mine from two hours ago.
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