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    Quote Originally Posted by salmoned View Post
    Well, maybe I should qualify my review of Pegg's accent - to my ear, it sounds like an Irishman affecting a Scot's accent. Then again, what can you expect from an Englishman?
    Either way - it didn't work for ya. I wonder if his (Scots) wife provided any critique of his work?

    (And I still haven't seen the film, dangit - probably won't be able to for another couple weeks.)

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    Perhaps in this alternate universe Mr. Scott while descend from Scotish people may have grown up in Ireland. Or the Scotish town he was living in had a huge influx of Irish people there.

    I had no problem with the movie using the time travel causing an alternate universe as a plot device. What I do have an issue with is when one character told another character what the original time line was like and we as audience members never seen (or heard) that event on screen during the run of the original series.

    The other thing that bothered me was the use lens flares in the movie. These are flares of light that come up during the movie in almost of all the indoor scenes. It's not too bad if the flare is in the background but had several of these flaring up in the foreground that washed out the scene.

    What I liked about the movie is that it's decent action film with a side of humor.

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    okay, so i have never watched an episode of Star Trek (in any of it's various forms) or any Star Trek movie...

    that being said, I had heard the movie was good even if you weren't a fan (Trekkie!) and since it was directed by JJ Abrams, and produced by Abrams, Damon Lindelof, Bryan Burk (all of LOST and/or FRINGE, two of only three shows that i even watch), we decided to see it yesterday. And I must say that I was actually surprised at how much I enjoyed it! The whole family enjoyed it, even the kids (ages 10 and 8) who had also never seen a Star Trek show before.
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    Saw it tonight with DS (his second viewing.) A few thoughts....

    I liked the "pulling together" of the story in the first sequences. My first thought upon seeing the "evil vessel" was, "Oh, this is another Borg kine story"....not. The time interweaving was pretty artful, and the relationships were interesting. Some of the action shots made me dizzy; I guess the methodology of filming on an angle and swinging round a lot with everything dark and shadowed and with sharp objects flying at you is popular with directors now....

    All in all, I did like the movie and remember thinking, over already?

    My fave character? 17-yr-old Chekov with obvious videogame skills (I can do eet!!) and a thick Russian accent. And I wouldn't call Sulu's swordsmanship "fencing" in any sense of the word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kanahina View Post
    okay, so i have never watched an episode of Star Trek (in any of it's various forms) or any Star Trek movie...
    Our kid's holding off until she's watched a Netflix copy of "Wrath of Khan".

    It'd be interesting to see if Netflix has the TV series' Khan episode available too.
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    Our kid's holding off until she's watched a Netflix copy of "Wrath of Khan".
    There might be a need for a Spoiler Alert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walkoff Balk View Post
    There might be a need for a Spoiler Alert.
    I'm willing to go back and edit my post, but I don't think the plot of "Khan" has any spoilers for the new "Star Trek" movie. Correct me if I'm mistaken.

    Our kid has never watched the TV show or the movies before and has no idea about the characters or the culture, while "Khan" has whole paragraphs of dialogue that pop up as one-liners in the new movie. They're also filled with examples of military leadership that have permeated the vocabulary spouse and I use at home. Sort of like the grownups jokes put in Disney movies to help the adults stay awake in the theaters-- hard to appreciate them without the background.

    If I took our kid to see "Star Trek" in a movie theater she'd be continuously whispering her questions to me and disturbing the other viewers. Far easier to sit on the couch with a bowl of popcorn and the remote control's "pause" button.

    Gotta pass on the cultural heritage to the next generation-- before it's lost forever or only available on YouTube...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nords View Post
    I'm willing to go back and edit my post, but I don't think the plot of "Khan" has any spoilers for the new "Star Trek" movie. Correct me if I'm mistaken.

    Our kid has never watched the TV show or the movies before and has no idea about the characters or the culture, while "Khan" has whole paragraphs of dialogue that pop up as one-liners in the new movie. They're also filled with examples of military leadership that have permeated the vocabulary spouse and I use at home. Sort of like the grownups jokes put in Disney movies to help the adults stay awake in the theaters-- hard to appreciate them without the background.
    But the thing is,... if your kid is planning to watch TWOK in order to get background information for the new movie, she'll definitely need to see the Space Seed episode from the original series in order to understand why Khan was obsessed with getting his revenge against Kirk. If anything, TWOK needed more background information for the novice fan than the new Star Trek movie.

    Actually, one doesn't have to watch any of the previous TV series and movies to simply enjoy the new movie. It is only needed if one wants to catch all of the "ah ha" moments or to be immediately aware of the alternate timeline development as it happens. To name just one example: the new movie reveals how Kirk came up with his nickname for McCoy. But this little moment of revelation for veteran Trekkers (I prefer that term over Trekkies) will simply go over the heads of the newbies in the audience.

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    Gotta pass on the cultural heritage to the next generation-- before it's lost forever or only available on YouTube...
    Of that, I don't think you will ever have to worry. For one thing, all of the various Star Trek TV episodes/movies are available on DVD, and will no doubt continue to be available well into the future with whatever home video format comes down the pike. I don't see any of it going out of print. There are also tons of Star Trek books, games, websites, and various other merchandise. And finally, there are the fan conventions that are still going strong. If any TV series/franchise has reasons to be concerned about being forgotten, Star Trek is not one of them. (Captain Video and his Video Rangers, maybe?)

    My point is: if your daughter develops a serious interest in Star Trek, the resources will be there for her to become a full fledged Trekker, if she wants it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nords View Post
    I'm willing to go back and edit my post, but I don't think the plot of "Khan" has any spoilers for the new "Star Trek" movie. Correct me if I'm mistaken.
    Khan was made in the 1980's. Please anyone, don't give away the ending for Who Shot J.R! I have it on TiVo of the original broadcast.

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    finally saw the movie on tuesday night with eric and a friend of ours, who is also a bit of a trekkie. the theater was about 3/4 full, and given the reactions to several parts of the movie, the non-trekkie was the extreme rarity in the audience.

    i haven't enjoyed a movie so much in a long time. props to abrams for caring so much of the ST legacy and respecting the roddenberry's vision, while putting his own spin on it. the major actors all did a great job, too. i'm really glad that all my skepticism was unfounded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyleet99 View Post
    And I wouldn't call Sulu's swordsmanship "fencing" in any sense of the word.
    Hmmmmmm. I was a competitive fencer: I certainly didn't recall any 'fencing' in the movie....
    I wondered: was it my age? My memory? Now I know: It wasn't "fencing" in any sense of the word.
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    When Captain Pike asked for officers with advanced hand to hand combat training, Sulu said he had some training. It was during the shuttle ride to the jump that Sulu said to Kirk that it was fencing. Then again the weapon that Sulu wielded didn't look like fencing foil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo Lakio View Post
    (And I still haven't seen the film, dangit - probably won't be able to for another couple weeks.)
    Shoulda said "couple months" ... finally got to it tonight. Briefly: enjoyed it greatly. One early complaint? The canyon into which Kirk's car falls; there ain't one of THOSE anywhere in Iowa!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo Lakio View Post
    The canyon into which Kirk's car falls; there ain't one of THOSE anywhere in Iowa!
    Yeah, right now that canyon does not exist but who's to say that by the time the year 2209 rolls around that canyon gets created. Or maybe it's dried up river or lake (kind of deep I know). One hint I heard that it's an open mine but that too was pretty deep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helen View Post
    Yeah, right now that canyon does not exist but who's to say that by the time the year 2209 rolls around that canyon gets created. Or maybe it's dried up river or lake (kind of deep I know). One hint I heard that it's an open mine but that too was pretty deep.
    The AFK also thought "dried up river," but I reminded her that the area around Midwestern rivers tends to be best described as "gently rolling."

    But of course, who knows what humanity may do to the landscape by that era, or even nature itself, if there's a big enough quake along the New Madrid fault line?

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    ... (kind of deep I know) ...
    Are you making puns without even trying? You get bonus points for that, you know. But no chiclets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo Lakio View Post
    Are you making puns without even trying?
    Wasn't my intention. I figured a dried up river might be in the range of 10 to 60 feet deep, but that canyon looked like at least 200 feet deep if not more. It might have been a lake. I was going to suggest that it might have been from the Xindi attack that was shown on the Enterprise TV series but the destruction ran from Florida to Venezuela, so I doubt it that ran westward towards Iowa.

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    DVD for this movie comes out November 17.

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    IIRC, he also took on the role of the crow after brandon lee died.
    Marc DeCascos took the TV role of The Crow (google The Crow: Stairway to Heaven syndicated television series).
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    Quote Originally Posted by helen View Post
    DVD for this movie comes out November 17.
    There's a book and DVD price war going on at Walmart and Amazon (maybe Target, too).

    You can get Star Trek for $10 at Amazon and $9.98 at Walmart, but it's the basic DVD and pre-order.

    Best seller books (such as Stephen King's Under the Dome and Michael Critchon's posthumous Pirate Latitudes) are also priced at $10.

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    Picked up the 2 Disc Digital Copy Special Edition a few weeks ago but only managed to see the second disc last night which contain the deleted scenes from the movie.

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    Finally got to watch the movie, via DVD. I got the one that's the same as Helen's.

    I enjoyed it, though I cringed at what the new Star Trek Universe is going to be now...

    Without Amanda Grayson, Spock's mother. Without the original Vulcan homeworld. Without the rift between Spock and his father, Sarek.


    Despite those, I am looking forward to what more of JJ Abrams & Co. going to do with the new Trek storyline.
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    at what the new Star Trek Universe is going to be now
    A totally different thing for sure. Not only Kirk's life that got changed by Nero going back in time but all sorts of things changed. One good example is Checkov, in the TV series he said he was 21 years old in one episode, while Kirk said he was 38 in another episode of the same season, that puts at least 17 year difference between the two characters. In this movie Checkov is 17 years old to Kirk's age of 25 making it 8 years difference between the two characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helen View Post
    A totally different thing for sure. Not only Kirk's life that got changed by Nero going back in time but all sorts of things changed. One good example is Checkov, in the TV series he said he was 21 years old in one episode, while Kirk said he was 38 in another episode of the same season, that puts at least 17 year difference between the two characters. In this movie Checkov is 17 years old to Kirk's age of 25 making it 8 years difference between the two characters.
    Yeah, I think it's more than just going back in time. It's jumping to another parallel reality.

    IOW, JJ Abram's Trek is not the Prime Trek Universe.
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    Try watching a home made copy of the latest Star Trek. I think the guy forgot to finalize it or something because the chapters got so messed up starting from the middle to the beginning to the end and then back and forth from one chapter to another. Made for a major headache watching the entire movie that way and then having to piece it all back together after it ended trying to figure it out.

    In the end I rented it from Blockbuster and enjoyed it.
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