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    Quote Originally Posted by genepark View Post
    Who makes jokes about Jewish people all the time? Jewish comedians, like the creators of South Park. Who makes fun of Koreans all the time? Margaret Cho. Filipino dialects? Rex Navarette.
    Rex Nava-who?

    Is he better than Mel Cabang, Augie T, and Andy Bumatai?

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    Quote Originally Posted by buzz1941 View Post
    But really. Does anyone really consider Dog Chapman an exemplar of polite society?
    Shrugs. He's a celeb, which can range from Tom Cruise to Joey Buttafouco. No matter where they are, they're going to be scrutinized under the media's microscope.


    Quote Originally Posted by buzz1941 View Post
    As to how Dog views local folks — it's a function of his job to see us all as perps and potential perps.
    So long you don't skipped bail or have your face plastered on a Wanted poster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random View Post
    Rex Nava-who?

    Is he better than Mel Cabang, Augie T, and Andy Bumatai?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O2coJq7ztU

    The above is his most famous routine, about a Filipino packing company called SBC Packers.

    We're also acquaintances. He was once engaged to a friend of mine.
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    I love how it's always "because of the media" that stuff like this goes down.

    Looks like there are a lot of consumers out there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peshkwe View Post
    Shoot...he coulda said she was a goat feltching, boxcar skulled pea-brain in the tertiary stages of syphilis

    Now, that's funny! Can I borrow for another thread? I'm getting called out for trash talkin' wars and this is just too good to not use again.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalei99 View Post
    Now, that's funny! Can I borrow for another thread? I'm getting called out for trash talkin' wars and this is just too good to not use again.....
    Heh...sure, use it at your own peril.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dick View Post
    I love how it's always "because of the media" that stuff like this goes down.
    Looks like there are a lot of consumers out there...
    Right you are - it's a symbiotic relationship.

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    I hope most of you read Lee Cataluna's column today in the Advertiser. She's hit the proverbial nail on its proverbial head.
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    That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random View Post
    Rex Nava-who?

    Is he better than Mel Cabang, Augie T, and Andy Bumatai?
    rex is a veteran of the mainland flip comedy circuit who, in the last several years, made hawaii his home. a canuck flip living in san diego turned me on to rex about five years ago.

    he's indubitably better than mel and augie. i'd say andy and rex are the same level, tho not similar. they both touch on the theme of being an older fili-american, but in different ways since diff experiences make for diff stories.

    besides the SBC bit, rex is well known even on the 'net for marites and superfriends, which eric linked to here.

    back on topic, i'd say that if dog was so paranoid about being caught on tape saying the n-word and having it affect the well-being of his babies, then why say it, ever? then again, it's not as if we expect the dog et al. to be paragons of virtue, either. that his son is who turned in the tape to the enquirer says a lot more about the whole chapman crew than dog's multiple n-spewing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericncyn View Post
    rex is a veteran of the mainland flip comedy circuit who, in the last several years, made hawaii his home. a canuck flip living in san diego turned me on to rex about five years ago.

    he's indubitably better than mel and augie. i'd say andy and rex are the same level, tho not similar. they both touch on the theme of being an older fili-american, but in different ways since diff experiences make for diff stories.

    besides the SBC bit, rex is well known even on the 'net for marites and superfriends, which eric linked to here.

    back on topic, i'd say that if dog was so paranoid about being caught on tape saying the n-word and having it affect the well-being of his babies, then why say it, ever? then again, it's not as if we expect the dog et al. to be paragons of virtue, either. that his son is who turned in the tape to the enquirer says a lot more about the whole chapman crew than dog's multiple n-spewing.

    I have a feeling that the use of the n-bomb by the pup in referring to the girlfriend was a regular thing in the ....erm....'conversations'...the two had, as possibly was the paranoia about it getting to the Enquirer.

    I have a feeling that the idea of the kid giving up the tape to the rag came about from puppyman's fretting about it before the taped conversation....unless Tucker made it a habit of taping all father and son convos.

    If that's the case....it's very sad and would say much more than using the n-bomb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peshkwe View Post

    If that's the case....it's very sad and would say much more than using the n-bomb.
    I know. Dog's use of the word, to me, is indefensible, so I'm far from justifying his action. However it's very sad that his own son sold him out.

    My own father has said racially charged slurs, and as much as I hated him at times, he's still my father and I would never shame the family the way Tucker allegedly did. They must've really been on the outs, either that or it doesn't take much for Tucker to completely ruin his family's livelihood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genepark View Post
    I know. Dog's use of the word, to me, is indefensible, so I'm far from justifying his action. However it's very sad that his own son sold him out.

    My own father has said racially charged slurs, and as much as I hated him at times, he's still my father and I would never shame the family the way Tucker allegedly did. They must've really been on the outs, either that or it doesn't take much for Tucker to completely ruin his family's livelihood.

    Kind of curiouse though if the tape was going on a regular basis hoping to catch a rant, or was that rant given on a regular enough basis that he didn't have to wait for it or hope that it might happen.

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    Well it looks like the show is done. Pau. Dassit.

    I'm fine with it. I did watch the show sometimes, through Xbox Live, but it's not like I had any attachment to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genepark View Post
    Well it looks like the show is done. Pau. Dassit.
    Was there some announcement to that effect?
    So far, they just said that production was suspended. No word on airing existing shows or not, or on the overall future of the show. So... ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LikaNui View Post
    Was there some announcement to that effect?
    Yep.

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    Correction: The show is not canceled. It's just been pulled off the air until the "foreseeable future." The Multichannel News report was misleading.
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    When folks blame "the media" for Dog's actions, do they mean the medium of telephones and tape recorders?
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    Quote Originally Posted by genepark View Post
    Correction: The show is not canceled. It's just been pulled off the air until the "foreseeable future." The Multichannel News report was misleading.
    Yeah, I just noticed the Star-Bulletin headline has been changed to clarify this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LikaNui View Post
    I hope most of you read Lee Cataluna's column today in the Advertiser. She's hit the proverbial nail on its proverbial head.
    Do you then agree with statements like: "...the racist undertone of the show in which the saviors are white and the bad guys are brown." and that the show is/was "...portraying it(Hawaii) as a dirty, dangerous place, its drug-addled residents in desperate need of saving..."

    I watched the show fairly often. One cannot help but be shocked at the numbers of locals strung out on "ice". Do you think this was overstated or somehow exaggerated?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinjin View Post
    Do you then agree with statements like: "...the racist undertone of the show in which the saviors are white and the bad guys are brown." and that the show is/was "...portraying it(Hawaii) as a dirty, dangerous place, its drug-addled residents in desperate need of saving..."

    I watched the show fairly often. One cannot help but be shocked at the numbers of locals strung out on "ice". Do you think this was overstated or somehow exaggerated?
    It's an interesting discussion point, and for me it's hard to say. It's something news media folks struggle with all the time too.

    When I was on Guam, a number of crimes and fatalities were blamed on the Micronesian community, as they were often the suspects in many of the cases. Most news media try their best not to identify the ethnicity of criminal suspects, so as not to perpetuate stereotypes. It gets hard, then, when we are required to photograph them and type out their name, and it becomes obvious what their ethnic makeup is.

    It's hard to document facts (like Micronesian criminals or local ice addicts) without somehow feeling like you are perpetuating a stereotype. The Advertiser recently learned that the hard way, doing a story on that UH homeless report and feeling the wrath of the local Micronesian community.

    When I do watch the show though, I do get that sense of racial undertones, so I think she's pretty much spot on in her observations.
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    Considering the census break downs:

    http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/15/15003.html


    You sure would think that there'd be more Caucasians represented just in the number and ratios given. The show looked like only rarely did a Caucasian have issues with the law....unless he went to someplace like Denver or the like in the 48.

    Yanno....I never did see all the shows, has he ever gone after black folks?

    Or maybe not many white folks used the bond services of his family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinjin View Post
    Do you then agree with statements like: "...the racist undertone of the show in which the saviors are white and the bad guys are brown." and that the show is/was "...portraying it(Hawaii) as a dirty, dangerous place, its drug-addled residents in desperate need of saving..."

    One cannot help but be shocked at the numbers of locals strung out on "ice". Do you think this was overstated or somehow exaggerated?
    I think Lee put forth a fairly accurate analysis of the show. Considering the population of Oahu hovers close to 800,000, Dog's show presents a cropped, myopic picture of the fringes of our society. Make no mistake, we certainly do have an ice problem in Hawaii -- probably just as bad as any city in the Midwest. But what kind of ratings would a show about a Samoan bounty hunter busting white people in Utah generate?

    Like it or not, mainstream TV perpetuates the "poor, ignorant brown people being saved/enlightened/conquered by the white man" theme because it believes that's what their consumers find comforting, even entertaining. Why stray from the formula if it worked for Hawaii Five-O, Gilligan's Island, et al., right? The sad irony when it comes to Hawaii is that such mainstream thinking is an eerie echo of the arrival of missionaries in our 'aina.

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    Considering puppyman's momma was a missionary on the rez

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    Quote Originally Posted by MixedPlateBroker View Post
    what kind of ratings would a show about a Samoan bounty hunter busting white people in Utah generate?
    I'd watch that. Is it actually happening?
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    Quote Originally Posted by buzz1941 View Post
    I'd watch that. Is it actually happening?
    *lol* I live in Utah now and I can say without a doubt that a show like this doesn't exist here........yet.
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