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    Default For a serious, vegetarian pig-out feast…

    where do you go? What killer restaurants would you take your date to, if s/he was into eating really healthy/vegan/macrobionic?

    Sometimes I like my dinner to be super healthy, and a lot of it. I crave something more than a leafy salad, often requiring me to build-a-meal (I'll take a salad and a baked potato and a side of something else…)

    What do you do? Where do you go?

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    There are some possible restaurants listed here:

    http://www.happycow.net/north_americ...ulu/index.html

    I actually googled for the Hare Krishna restaurant because I heard their food is really good (and vegetarian) but it seems to only serve lunch.

    Legends is pretty good. I've gone there with friends and vegetarians and non-vegetarians have been satisfied there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adri View Post
    I actually googled for the Hare Krishna restaurant because I heard their food is really good (and vegetarian) but it seems to only serve lunch.
    The food is decent so is the price. I've eaten there a few times (years ago).
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    Vegetarian Pig-Out?

    Excellent oxymoron.
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    Ruby Tuesday has an all you can eat salad bar. Granted it's not a vegetarian only place but at least people with different views of food can eat at the same time and place.

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    Well years ago before Terry Shintani became famous (but a hard-core vegan) I did run into him eating at Harpo's Pizza in Kapahulu, chowing down on a (I assume vegan) pizza there.

    For Dr. Shintani he had a keen interest in the Molokai Diet. After researching it he modified it and started treating his patients at the Waianae Coast Comprehensive Health Center, calling it the Waianae Diet. He had some great successes with obese and cancer patients.

    From there he went worldwide with a marketing campaign after the success of his "Eat More Weigh Less" book. Our good friend Ruth Heidrich was another success story from his diet plan and she wrote a book called "A Race for Life" and appeared on the Ophrah Winfrey show.

    If there could be one restaurant that could menu only the Waianae Diet (Now internationally called the Hawaiian Diet) I think that would be a very successful place to dine if you want to battle chronic weight, cancer, diabetic and other chronic illnesses that plague us from our unhealthy diets.

    I've actually tried some of his dishes and for a carnivore it's actually not bad, a lot tastier than the monk food I see at some of the health food grab and go deli's in town.
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    Well Bento on University/King Street is a pretty good place for the healthier fare. Kinda weird that a restaurant is on the second floor of a walkup business building, but it's tasty!

    Zaffron has a buffet that's pretty vegetarian. I work like right across the street and the chai tea they serve is really really good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigwatanabe View Post
    I've actually tried some of his dishes and for a carnivore it's actually not bad, a lot tastier than the monk food I see at some of the health food grab and go deli's in town.
    Was it homemade, or does some restaurant offer at least a sampling of this Waianae Diet? Do you know if the Waianae diet is suitable for people who engage in athletic activity? Thanks for any info

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    Dr. Shintani...whatta character! I've seen him a couple of times at WCCHC when my doc was out of town, altho' it's been awhile. His book went nationwide as the Hawaii Diet. A few years earlier WCCHC released the The Waianae Book of Hawaiian Health; The Waianae Diet Program Manual. The biggest complaint I heard about the Hawaii Diet from mainland folks was the difficulty in finding some of the ingredients.

    IIRC, diabetes is prevalent in native Hawaiians and the Waianae Coast has the largest concentration of native Hawaiians on Oahu. A clinic was set up at WCCHC to help them. Hence, the Waianae Diet and the Hawaii Diet.

    About the time the first manual was released, a catering company on the Waianae Coast set up a pre-order and pick-up 'restaurant' that catered to Dr. Shintani's recommendations and recipes. At some point within the past 2 years, a diabetic opened a small health food store/take out restaurant within a half block of WCCHC. Neither business survived for very long. My guess is the economics of that depressed area couldn't support these endeavors. I enjoyed the food from both establishments.

    Like P.M., if I'm jonesing for a meatless meal and am dining out I just put together side dishes...which is what I tend to do, regardless. I'm a grazer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard View Post
    Was it homemade, or does some restaurant offer at least a sampling of this Waianae Diet? Do you know if the Waianae diet is suitable for people who engage in athletic activity? Thanks for any info
    Ruth Heidrich was diagnosed with breast cancer and was given a deadline for living of a few months. She was determined to win this battle and sought out Dr. Shintani and went on his diet and a regimented exercise program.

    When her cancer went into remission she decided that she wanted to further her physical abilities by participating in our local marathons and triathalons, winning medals and breaking records for her division. Prior to that she wasn't athletic at all.

    So to answer your question if it's suitable for athletic activity, the answer is a very big YES!

    The whole aspect of the original Molokai Diet that intrigued Shintani was when he realized that the ancient Hawaiian commoner ate what they reaped which consisted mainly of fish and taro and other crop. Only the Alii ate pork and other fattening foods brought in by Western man.

    When Shintani found that the ancient Hawaiian commoner were bigger and stronger than today's modern Kanaka he started investigating what the ancient Hawaiians ate regularly. Already an active Vegan, he realized the Molokai Diet was one of the more perfect diets for the human body. He also realized that the ancient Hawaiian commoner didn't fall to many of the illnesses that the Alii had so there was a difference between the social classes and their diets.

    Oh and yes the selections I ate was home made. I couldn't find anywhere his dishes were prepared and served.
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    Quote Originally Posted by craigwatanabe View Post
    If there could be one restaurant that could menu only the Waianae Diet (Now internationally called the Hawaiian Diet) I think that would be a very successful place to dine if you want to battle chronic weight, cancer, diabetic and other chronic illnesses that plague us from our unhealthy diets.
    Zippy's used to feature menu items from Dr. Shintani, which was rotated with the daily specials. Not bad. I tried a few dishes, like this veggie burrito with brown rice, which was quite tasty. They're no longer doing this though.

    Even from Zippy's standard menu, I usually opt for the vegetarian chili, which I think has a better flavor than the regular meat-based chili.

    Cool oxymoronic thread title!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pomai View Post
    Zippy's used to feature menu items from Dr. Shintani, which was rotated with the daily specials. Not bad. I tried a few dishes, like this veggie burrito with brown rice, which was quite tasty. They're no longer doing this though.

    Even from Zippy's standard menu, I usually opt for the vegetarian chili, which I think has a better flavor than the regular meat-based chili.

    Cool oxymoronic thread title!
    I used to mix the regular chili and the veggie chilli. I would buy four Zippy chilli fundraiser tickets and ask them to combine all four into one tub mixing the two. Made for one decent chili over rice. The Veggie chilli had more texture to it.
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    Thanks, Craig! That's very good to know. I think I shall pick up the aforelinked book about the Waianae Diet sometime.

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    strangely, when i crave veggies and am too lazy to do it myself, i go to a korean restaurant. not the quick kine, but ones like million or seoul garden or yakiniku seoul. i just order a soft tofu stew and nosh on the kim chee while waiting. i've never failed to get full.

    ooops...sometimes soft tofu stew has little bits of meat in it. sorry.

    one place that does cater to vegetarians is india cafe (their website has the complete menu, with pics, if you're interested). and if you're a spice addict, their spicy eggplant has a depth of heat that boggles the mind (for reference, authentic kim chee has never challenged me the way the spicy eggplant at india cafe does). of course, if that's too hot for you to handle, you can drown your miserable tongue in a delightful lassi or fresh watermelon juice with pulp. mmmm...i think i know where i want to take eric to dinner tonight...
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    It's not a vegetarian restaurant, buy a favorite for veggie fare is Maharani, which I love so much that I often get emotional during meals: That's how good the food is. I can't believe I'm so lucky as to be eating food that good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pua'i Mana'o View Post
    where do you go? What killer restaurants would you take your date to, if s/he was into eating really healthy/vegan/macrobionic?

    Sometimes I like my dinner to be super healthy, and a lot of it. I crave something more than a leafy salad, often requiring me to build-a-meal (I'll take a salad and a baked potato and a side of something else…)

    What do you do? Where do you go?
    Scriv mentioned Maharani. We ate there, but not the vegan selections. I can see how their vegan dishes would be just as tasty. Food's pretty darn good, there, but make reservations or go early. Parking is also very limited.

    Also, any good sit down Chinese restaurant will have a vegan section in their menu and there are some pretty nice, upscale places in town.

    You could also try Pyramids on Kapahulu. Their buffet does feature meats, but I'm pretty sure they have a good selection of vegan meals on their menu or just don't eat the meat at the buffet. Lots of couscous, tabouli, naan bread, goat cheese veggie salads and such. They also have a pretty good rice pudding for dessert. Street parking or the small lot in the back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kittrick View Post
    Well Bento on University/King Street is a pretty good place for the healthier fare.

    Ditto on Well Bento. I swear by that place. Of course, their stuff is a little more expensive and they give a little less than when Harris ran the place a couple of years ago, but it's still worth every penny! I love the Zen Macrobiotic plate with a side of Louisiana Setian or Tofu. Mmmm.

    Also, last year I read in the SB about a place at Dole Cannery that sells pre-made Vegan dishes. (I wonder if it's still open.) In fact, the food is not even cooked, thereby preserving the nutrients and flavors. It seemed very healthy and I wanted to try it but you had to order in advance and pick up a week's worth of food.

    Now if I could just convince someone else to do that, so the next time I fly in I can give it a try...

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    Don't forget about these monthly macrobiotic meals...

    http://macrobiotichawaii.bravehost.c...entevents.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbsolutChaos View Post
    Don't forget about these monthly macrobiotic meals...

    http://macrobiotichawaii.bravehost.c...entevents.html
    great for cancer patients but oh man it's kinda lacklusture in taste. I grew up eating low-sodium meals because my father had high blood pressure so salt was a no-no at our house growing up.

    So when I had the chance to eat macrobiotic meals, I thought it can be as bad as a low-sodium meal. Boy was I wrong. I thought I had gotten used to a meal prepared with no salt. Apparently not as macrobiotic food was pretty bland to my tastebuds.

    But macrobiotic meals do seem to inhibit the growth of cancerous cells to the point of remission.
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    Quote Originally Posted by craigwatanabe View Post
    great for cancer patients but oh man it's kinda lacklusture in taste. I grew up eating low-sodium meals because my father had high blood pressure so salt was a no-no at our house growing up.

    So when I had the chance to eat macrobiotic meals, I thought it can be as bad as a low-sodium meal. Boy was I wrong. I thought I had gotten used to a meal prepared with no salt. Apparently not as macrobiotic food was pretty bland to my tastebuds.

    But macrobiotic meals do seem to inhibit the growth of cancerous cells to the point of remission.
    I've never had a macrobiotic meal, but based on the fact that I like my food so spicy I'm crying, I probably wouldn't care for it either.

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    Default oxymoron??

    how is "vegetarian pig-out" an oxymoron, considering 1)pigs are vegetarians and 2)the only way to get full on veggies is to trough down a ton of 'em?

    Thanks for the suggestions; I am going to check it out next time I am in HNL. I wish we had those options here. I crave going to a restaurant that offers hearty soups and entrees along with great starches, like seasoned rices or different breads.

    pax

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    down to earth has some pretty good eggplant parmesan (spelling). the mock chicken and chow fun are good, too. some of the sandwiches and ready made pesto is good. you can get dick alguire's (spelling) recipes over there.
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    I went to Legends (Buddhist) Vegetarian today, again, and I gotta say, "The service is not good, and the food, though tasty, is not prepared with very much care."

    By that, I mean that the waitresses mostly ignored me (again), except when they were rushing me to get going at 1:55. While I was eating. I had to ask for to-go boxes while the cashier was pushing my credit card and receipt at me. At least she came to the table? Oh, and I had to box my own to-go entrees (again.). I had on a very nice blouse that I was struggling with to keep sleeves out of the food, avoid splashback, etc,...and the waitstaff just stood nearby watching. A little help, please? I'm having a hard time, here!

    The food. How do I say this...."I'm lucky to have such a yummy vegetarian restaurant reasonably near to where I live. "

    Ok. Good quality fake meat, just like real meat, has a texture and a grain to it. The chef chose to ignore that and serve 'meat briquets' instead. Here's an example for the carnivores - you have a leg of lamb. You cut into rounds starting at the ankle. Then cook it.
    Not the best use of a leg of lamb, right?
    Same with the vegi 'meat pucks'.
    Does the chef not eat his own food?

    Once I got home with my half eaten lunch, I sliced up the fake steak the right way, and it tasted and looked way better! And was chopstick-friendly!

    What is up with this place? I want to support vegetarianism, but .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pua'i Mana'o View Post
    how is "vegetarian pig-out" an oxymoron, considering 1)pigs are vegetarians
    Ah, so we now know that PM has never worked in a large restaurant where the plates are scraped into a big barrel to be sold as slop to the pig farms. Beef, chicken, fish, and yes even pork, you name it and a pig will eat it. The slop barrel collects any sort of leftover food or milk product. Pigs are Omnivores (a species that eats both plants and animals as their primary source of food).
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    Quote Originally Posted by kani-lehua View Post
    you can get dick alguire's (spelling) recipes over there.
    I used to get all his from Star(?) Mkt. years ago. Good to know he still does it, or at least has more somewhere. I'll check that out. Thanx!

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