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    Tell me which movies you think are overrated. Personal opinion, blah blah blah. Don't argue with me. I'm the man. I'm not saying these films totally suck, just that they're overrated.


    The Breakfast Club
    The exception to my statement that these films don't totally suck and the main reason I started this thread. I'm sick of people clinging to this little 80's piece of sentiment as an actual good movie. It's not. Everything about this piece of shit is corny as hell. From the worst part of 80's music, to the high school cliches, this movie absolutely blows. In my opinion of course. Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, OOOOOOooooooOOOOOaaaHHHHHH! Terrible. The over dramatization of high school. The end scene with the "bad boy" pumping his fist in the air frozen. Ugh, it makes me sick to think of.


    The Deer Hunter
    As much as I like De Niro, I think this one gets too much praise. So he went and lived as a steel worker for 6 months. Why? They're only in a steel factory for 6 minutes. If that. There's an intense couple of scenes and a lot of boring filler. And the longest wedding scene ever. I'd rather just go to a real wedding, at least I'd get free food.


    Juno
    I'm just including this one because it's been getting such rave reviews from everybody. I saw it, don't see the big deal. It's like they took elements from Saved! and Napoleon Dynamite and clumsily threw them together. Not an absolutely terrible film, just way overrated.

    Titanic
    IMO, this movie is not as classic as people make it out to be. The whole movie was a long boring boat ride without the sea sickness.
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    Titanic, for sure.

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    I think it would be MUCH easier to notate the few 'Hollywood' pix from the last 30 years that are worthy of a bag of popcorn.

    Crumb, an indie, comes to mind, but not much else at the moment.

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    Napoleon Dynamite - I understand why it was popular, but I don't think it was nearly as good as the hype.

    Crumb is indeed a great movie. Is there a theatre on Oahu that shows 'Art' films, foriegn films, and such?

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    Everything with Mike Meyers or Adam Sandler.

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    As a stand-alone flick, I would agree with you. The things that makes this flick so wonderful though are 1)the profound historical significance of the Battle of Thermopylae and 2)the physical aspects that these actors willingly endured to ready themselves for this movie.

    Because I watch this movie with these ideas in the back of my head, I find the movie a great treat.

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    Insert just about any Tom Cruise film, about the only one I remotely liked was "Risky Business".

    As for "Breakfast Club", I liked it but don't sit in awe of it 23 years later. I was entering high school around that time and also ended up getting in trouble serving detention with classmates of all the walks of life and yes on Saturday mornings or strange days and times. I guess in some odd way I felt I could relate to it I guess. I bought the Simple Minds 45's when they came out, but I wont go and say they were the greatest band ever.

    For that era, Fast Times at Ridgemont High is one of my favorite films. Phoebe Cates alone makes me love this film.

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    ...Will Farrell?

    Lot's of $ made, but who's paying to see this guy?

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    Anything with Kevin Costner, in particular Robin Hood (a real embarrassment) and Dances with Wolves (I was rooting for the Indians to scalp him).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pua'i Mana'o View Post
    As a stand-alone flick, I would agree with you. The things that makes this flick so wonderful though are 1)the profound historical significance of the Battle of Thermopylae and 2)the physical aspects that these actors willingly endured to ready themselves for this movie.

    Because I watch this movie with these ideas in the back of my head, I find the movie a great treat.
    I liked "300", too. Persian " . . . our arrows will blot out the sun". Spartan "then we will fight in the shade". It's completely over-the-top in its 'epicnificence' (even worthy of a new word). It's got the "it's not the size of the dog in the fight. it's the size of the fight in the dog" thing going on. Kinda like the Alamo. The handful goes toe-to-toe with the throng. Not a brilliant movie, but a good one.
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    I loved The Breakfast Club and Juno. Brilliant dialogue. I think you have to be the type of person who likes "talky" types of movies.
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    I went to the high school that was used to film The Breakfast Club...which is also the high school that John Hughes, the Director of many movies from the 80's, went to. He was a year ahead of me and married a girl from my class. That's probably the main reason I could endure the movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alohacandy View Post
    I went to the high school that was used to film The Breakfast Club...which is also the high school that John Hughes, the Director of many movies from the 80's, went to. He was a year ahead of me and married a girl from my class. That's probably the main reason I could endure the movie.
    You went to Glenbrook North High?

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    My husband calls Titanic a movie about, "the first time an old woman got laid real good that just happened to occur during an historic event."

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    Citizen Kane is the all time greatest film according to some critics when they make their list of best movies of all time. I didn't understand it. Was it dated, or do you have to be in the newspaper bidness to truly grasp its story?

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    Citizen Kane is the all time greatest film according to some critics when they make their list of best movies of all time. I didn't understand it. Was it dated, or do you have to be in the newspaper bidness to truly grasp its story?
    I think it has a lot to do with the era in which it was made. It was an unusual (some would say courageous) thing to make a film that pretended to be a story of a fictional individual, yet people knew that it was truly about a particular living (and highly influential) person. It was also a gutsy move on Welles' part, as it was his first feature film directing opportunity, and could have just as easily destroyed his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo Lakio View Post
    I think it has a lot to do with the era in which it was made. It was an unusual (some would say courageous) thing to make a film that pretended to be a story of a fictional individual, yet people knew that it was truly about a particular living (and highly influential) person. It was also a gutsy move on Welles' part, as it was his first feature film directing opportunity, and could have just as easily destroyed his career.
    I worked at Hearst Castle for a number of years. Hearst Castle was the resplendent, and favorite, home of William Randolph Hearst on the Central Coast of California near San Simeon.

    I did a lot of research on the movie Citizen Kane while working there which was reportedly about the life of WRH. Actually there are some thematic similarites to WHR's life but the movie also incorporates vignettes about other Americans of that time, such as Howard Hughes and Eli Whitney. The movie is more of a collage about prominent Americans.

    The brilliance of the movie centers around Orson Welles' use of theatrical techniques that were both shocking and groundbreaking for that time and are still used today. It was also the first movie to use satirical themes about real, live celebrities of that time. So the movie has to reviewed in the context of the times. I agree that it is difficult to understand what the movie is trying to say, unless you are very familiar with the historical context. Is it the best movie ever made? I don't know, but I personally find it fascinating. The movie did produce Welles only Oscar (for best screenplay). By the way, there is no connection whatsoever between WRH and "rosebud."

    Perhaps an interesting sidenote:

    Hearst was a movie buff and started making his own home movies shortly after 1910 using guests to star in movies he scripted at his "ranch" (Hearst Castle), usually cowboy movies. Later he founded his own movie production studio in Hollywood, called Metropolitan Pictures, to showcase the "talents" of his paramour and live-in companion, Marion Davies. In the 1930's, Hearst fell on hard financial times and sold part of Metropolitan Pictures to his pals, Sam Goldwyn and Louie B. Mayer and MGM was formed - Metro Goldwyn Mayer. Metro was the Metropolitan Picture part of the new company, of which Hearst was partial owner. In fact, Hearst did attempt to ruin Orson Welles' directing career through MGM Pictures. Hearst had Welles blacklisted around Hollywood because of the movie Citizen Kane. Hearst previewed the movie before it was released. Hearst offered several million dollars to Welles to buy all copies of the film to destroy them - not because of what the movie portrayed about Hearst but because it showed Marion Davies (a popular actress in silent films) as an untalented alcoholic, which wasn't too far from the truth. Welles refused to sell to Hearst and consequently Hearst vowed to destroy him professionally. Hearst did arguably destroy Welles directing career through his influence at MGM and through negative movie reviews on all of Welles' movies in the 12 major metropolitan newspapers Hearst owned across the US. Subsequent movies directed by Welles never did enjoy any significant commercial or financial success. Orson Welles, who was viewed as a genius by his peers, never did recover after the release of Citizen Kane and had to resort to selling wine on TV at the end of his life.

    Ironically, Welles has an acting role in one of my all time favorite movies, Catch 22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matapule View Post
    Anything with Kevin Costner, in particular Robin Hood (a real embarrassment) and Dances with Wolves (I was rooting for the Indians to scalp him).
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    1) E.T.
    2) Ghost
    3) Titanic
    4) Pearl Harbor
    5) J.F.K. (the Oliver Stone film)
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    1) Cloverfield
    Made of pure suck. Don't believe the hype!
    2) The Ring
    This is horror?! Sorry, little girls don't scare me. Neither the Japanese version nor the American version are any good.
    3) Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
    The neat-o fighting gets old surprisingly fast. This film is typically enjoyed by pimpled teens who think that watching anime makes you worldly.
    5) Apocalypto
    It drags! It sags! It makes you want to barf into brown paper bags! It's a Mel Gibson movie!
    6) The Passion of the Christ
    It's not art, it's a snuff film.
    7) Monster's Ball
    Bad things happen to pretty people! Oy, vey...
    8) Gone With the Wind
    Yeah, I said it! The only thing that saves this film is pure nostalgia.
    9) The Matrix
    Yeah, I said that, too! The movie has glitz and...not much else.
    10) Fight Club
    This film is downright offensive to those who have actually read the book.

    and a classic...

    It's A Wonderful Life
    He should have offed himself and spared us the nausea that comes with this too-long saccharine tale.


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    Lon, you did NOT justgoandthrowmatrixandfightclubintothecan now didja?? Those movies were able to be what so few flicks are in this day and age: original.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pua'i Mana'o View Post
    Lon, you did NOT justgoandthrowmatrixandfightclubintothecan now didja?? Those movies were able to be what so few flicks are in this day and age: original.
    Yep, I'm afraid I did. I give Fight Club credit, but not the movie. The movie slaughters the book all over the place.

    Now the thing about The Matrix is that it's pseudo-scientific hokum with a highly mechanical ending. It drags far too long as well. While it does have its exciting parts, it strings you along and leaves you falling asleep in your seat. The movie gives more dazzling effects than any kind of substance.
    Oh, and poor casting.
    As for the originality of The Matrix, I beg to differ. The movie is nothing but a pretty little light show with religious references, references to Westerns, Alice in Wonderland, hackers, and Hong Kong glitter...which is nothing new. This film even takes hint from Vertigo.

    For these reasons and more, I find The Matrix to be overrated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LonLeroux View Post
    Now the thing about The Matrix is that it's pseudo-scientific hokum with a highly mechanical ending. It drags far too long as well. While it does have its exciting parts, it strings you along and leaves you falling asleep in your seat. The movie gives more dazzling effects than any kind of substance.
    Oh, and poor casting.
    As for the originality of The Matrix, I beg to differ. The movie is nothing but a pretty little light show with religious references, references to Westerns, Alice in Wonderland, hackers, and Hong Kong glitter...which is nothing new. This film even takes hint from Vertigo.

    For these reasons and more, I find The Matrix to be overrated.
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    Two more movies that are way overrated and made money....


    Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest and Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End these two movies should have never been made. Even with Johnny Depp and Geoffrey Rush(two great performances...BTW)these movies were boring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alohabear View Post
    Two more movies that are way overrated and made money....


    Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest and Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End these two movies should have never been made. Even with Johnny Depp and Geoffrey Rush(two great performances...BTW)these movies were boring.

    Yes, yes, yes, a thousand times yes! I demanded my money back after watching At World's End.
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