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I was mortified this morning watching GMA splatter pictures of Bristol, the boyfriend, his myspace bio and so forth. All I could think of was "McCain, I got to hand it to you. Hit the American bell curve right in the moral kisser. Ain't nobody paying attention to stuff like The Real Issues right now..." I cannot help but hurt for the Palin family, which is exactly where McCain wants me to be, considering that he couldn't get me to care about his ticket otherwise.
When I look at that teenage girl, I am angry on her behalf that she is being exploited.
pax
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Even without considering the adequate or inadequate qualifications of Palin, I find it very interesting that McCain hardly even knows her!
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archi...9/1307122.aspx
"The McCain camp has just released a tick-tock of how the Palinpick came to be. And according to it, McCain had met her just one time prior to yesterday".Now run along and play, but don’t get into trouble.
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Originally posted by Vanguard View PostProud to be a redneck: The teenager expecting a baby with Sarah Palin's 17-year-old daughter
Yeah, I went there.
Sorry, Barack!
Oooh! I saw this, and went there - to myspace!! It seems that the profiles available for Levi Johnston in Alaska were created by Barack Obama supporters. Sigh. I wish I had done this yesterday when it had occured to me. Likely he has removed his real profile by now.~ This is the strangest life I've ever known ~
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Of course, context is everything, but the more we hear Palin unfiltered, the more you have to wonder if she’s VP material. In a radio interview she did as Governor, she laughs at a shock jock’s suggestion that Sen. Lyda Green, a cancer survivor, is “a bitch” and a “cancer.” Maybe she thought it was funny, but you have expect someone in Palin’s position should be mature enough to take the higher road.
We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans.
— U.S. President Bill Clinton
USA TODAY, page 2A
11 March 1993
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Originally posted by scrivener View PostHowever, all this quote says is that she let her daughter make a choice and is happy she made what she considers the right choice. The freedom to make even the wrong choice is one of the basic tenets of the Christian faith.
The freedom to make a choice about a woman's own body when it comes to child birth, is NOT one of the basic tenets of fundamental evangelical christianity. This religious movement is out of tune with God. God will decide whether a woman has made the right choice. Fundamentalist Evangelical christian, Sarah Palin, need not get involved.Peace, Love, and Local Grindz
People who form FIRM opinions with so little knowledge only pretend to be open-minded. They select their facts like food from a buffet. David R. Dow
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Originally posted by matapule View PostSo is Palin pro-choice? No, only for her daughter. For everyone else, she is pro-life. No choice, no decision, Sarah Palin will decide what is good for you. What a hypocrite!
Yes, I know that is one way of looking at it. But I don't think it is the only way of looking at it. I'm not stepping into the abortion debate because we both know where that leads, and besides, I'm undecided. However, when a mother says she's glad her daughter made a certain choice, she's not saying that the alternate choice should be legal. My parents are glad I chose to be a teacher and not a pirate. That doesn't mean they think I should have the legal choice to hijack ships at sea. It is not hypocritical to be glad your daughter chose what you think is right.
The freedom to make a choice about a woman's own body when it comes to child birth, is NOT one of the basic tenets of fundamental evangelical christianity. This religious movement is out of tune with God. God will decide whether a woman has made the right choice. Fundamentalist Evangelical christian, Sarah Palin, need not get involved.
From a legal standpoint, and I mean from a governmental standpoint, one side thinks the rights of the child supersede the rights of the mother, while the other thinks the rights of the mother supersede the rights of the child, where the interests of one conflict with the interests of the other. This is not a religious issue, 'though many try to make it so. I myself am an anti-abortion pro-choicer, if I absolutely must choose a side. I know this thread isn't about me, but you took it beyond Ms. Palin and made a statement about Evangelical Christians, and I am telling you that your judgment goes a bit far. Please, as I have asked before, don't lump us all into one category.But I'm disturbed! I'm depressed! I'm inadequate! I GOT IT ALL! (George Costanza)
GrouchyTeacher.com
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Oh, that's goooood! Loved it when he showed the picture of the City Hall where Palin was mayor, and he said it "looks like a bait shop in south Louisiana."
Also had to love how the lady politician from Minnesota kept refusing to answer if Palin was the best person the Republicans could've picked. Carville kept pressing her for an answer and she'd hem and haw and change the subject every time.
Good clip, PM. Thanks!.
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That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
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Originally posted by scrivener View PostI'm not stepping into the abortion debate because we both know where that leads, and besides, I'm undecided. However, when a mother says she's glad her daughter made a certain choice, she's not saying that the alternate choice should be legal. My parents are glad I chose to be a teacher and not a pirate. That doesn't mean they think I should have the legal choice to hijack ships at sea.
I just want to point out that this is not a fair comparison to make. Your choice of career was not an either/or situation (teacher OR pirate, no other options - though that would make for a very interesting world). But having an abortion OR carrying the child to term is - there are no other options. (Yes, there are options after the child is born, but that's not relevant in this case.)
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Originally posted by scrivener View PostIt is not hypocritical to be glad your daughter chose what you think is right.
From a legal standpoint, and I mean from a governmental standpoint,..........
made a statement about Evangelical Christians, and I am telling you that your judgment goes a bit far. Please, as I have asked before, don't lump us all into one category.Peace, Love, and Local Grindz
People who form FIRM opinions with so little knowledge only pretend to be open-minded. They select their facts like food from a buffet. David R. Dow
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Originally posted by matapule View PostI just ask you to think very carefully before you cast a vote for Palin.Beijing 8-08-08 to 8-24-08
Tiananmen Square 4-15-89 to 6-04-89
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Originally posted by matapule View PostThat ticket will get at least two votes from Hawaii then, you and sansei.But I'm disturbed! I'm depressed! I'm inadequate! I GOT IT ALL! (George Costanza)
GrouchyTeacher.com
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Originally posted by scrivener View PostPlease. That ticket is not conservative enough. I've already made it clear I'm voting for the Libertarian party (not for its candidate).
Sincere kudos for sticking with your party, Scrivener!~ This is the strangest life I've ever known ~
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Originally posted by matapule View Post
In any event, if Palin truly supports Paul, she’ll show up tonight at his rally in Minneapolis (just minutes away from the RNC) where more than 10,000 Paul supporters have gathered to support the candidate they feel is far better than McCain.
We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans.
— U.S. President Bill Clinton
USA TODAY, page 2A
11 March 1993
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