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    It's a terrible 'tradition', not one I condone at all, but still rather common in Hawaii, even on Oahu.

    I did once, at a Filipino family party on Lanai in the later 80s.
    Was so saucy that it could have been 'singing cat from Mars' meat, and I wouldn't have known.
    Wasn't something I needed the recipe for, or was dying to try again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
    It's a terrible 'tradition', not one I condone at all, but still rather common in Hawaii, even on Oahu.

    I did once, at a Filipino family party on Lanai in the later 80s.
    Was so saucy that it could have been 'singing cat from Mars' meat, and I wouldn't have known.
    Wasn't something I needed the recipe for, or was dying to try again.
    Being born Filipino, I have not yet had the pleasure.

    Besides, I prefer human.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
    It's a terrible 'tradition', not one I condone at all, but still rather common in Hawaii, even on Oahu.
    Never had it, but what's so "terrible" about it?

    Do you eat cow? I do, even though I know that a huge part of the world's population would consider it terrible that I do, as they consider cattle to be sacred.

    We eat what we were raised to eat. But we shouldn't be so biased against what other cultures choose as food, as long as they aren't forcing us to eat it as well.

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    I don't like the killing of animals for food, but they do taste quite good.
    What fo' do?!

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    Yes, in Tonga. It was prepared in an umu (imu) with taro leaves and coconut cream. Yum, yum. Also had horse (a little stringy); live, still wiggling octopus tentacle (once swallowed it tickles the tummy); Sea Cucumber (sea slug); raw sharks liver (a delicacy which only high officials are allowed to eat) and a number of other things I couldn't identify.

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    I would eat a dogs ass if it was cooked right...I have NO issues in eating what some cultures deem "domesticated". I have eaten horse, and really enjoyed it...and truth be told, if it came down to a matter of life and death, and say we were crashed on the side of a frozen mountain, you(or anybody)was frozen and "past their prime" and I was starved to almost death, I am gonna start snackin on something*hint hint*...I guess that is a different scenario though. lucky for you, Muaahhahahahahaaaaa

    But seriously, after balut, I am open to anything.
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    Default A dog's ass? Hmmm...

    Sounds like you have 0 issues in eating, period!

    So, how long would it take (day's/weeks) before your fellow man started looking like a ball park frank?

    Matapule, what was sea cucumber like? Not that I'm gonna suggest it to the local JITB or BK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
    Matapule, what was sea cucumber like?
    It was.....spongy. It didn't have much taste other than what it was cooked with. Frankly, I was wishin' I had a bottle of Tabasco and a cup of home brew (Tongans used fermented coconut).
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    Yup, had it at a feast a family of a Lakota boy for going to do sundance.

    Had horse, buffalo, bear, squirrel, raccoon, 'oppossum, rattle snake, 'gator, deer (raw and cooked), snapping turtle, snails, shellfishes, balut, prairie oysters, lambs head with the eyes, assorted fish parts (salmon, walleye etc.).

    That's what I liked, there's some things I can't stand...like haggis...bleh!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
    I don't like the killing of animals for food, but they do taste quite good.
    What fo' do?!
    Agreed. If God didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make 'em outta meat?

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    I heard dog tastes like pork.

    Can anyone tell me if this is true? I've heard that people prepare dog by beating and torturing them days before. Supposedly, it brings out the best flavor. Before slaughter, they force feed vinegar and rice so that the intestines will be cleaned out and filled.

    I heard this from a couple of people. One of them lived next door to Filipinos, and he said the sound of suffering dogs was so awful, that they eventually moved. They reported them to the humane society, but nothing was done. Can anyone confirm/deny this practice? The thought of it gives me nightmares.

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    Default Re: Honesty thread - Anybody here eaten dog?

    Are there any restaurants on Oahu that have dog on the menu?

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    I never tried eating a dog or planning to eat one just to say that I did. As far as other people wanting to eat a dog, I don't see a problem with people raising their own dogs as a food source. I do have an issue with people killing other people's dogs for food, I don't think that is right.

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    If sharks, lions, tigers and other known man-eating predators could talk, I could just hear them asking this same question.

    How about Cuy. Every try that?

    Ever take a walk through Chinatown in Honolulu lately? I did just last week. While not nearly as shocking as what you'd find in other countries (or perhaps even other states), if you really look, there's enough of a visual slaughter-fest in the meat and fish markets there to open your mind and nostrils up. Surely at least a world beyond the tamed-down westernized environments of a typical Foodland, Safeway or Costco.

    Live frogs? Check. Whole rabbit carcasses? Check. Pig's heads and internal organs? Check. And the butchers there show no shame in displaying their knife skills, if you know what I mean.

    Comes down to philosophy 101.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharilyn View Post
    I heard dog tastes like pork.
    don't remember. i was eight when i ate dog during a visit to the philippines. might be true, bcs i ate it without knowing it was dog, and i presumed it was pork. *shrug*

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharilyn View Post

    Can anyone tell me if this is true? I've heard that people prepare dog by beating and torturing them days before. Supposedly, it brings out the best flavor. Before slaughter, they force feed vinegar and rice so that the intestines will be cleaned out and filled.

    I heard this from a couple of people. One of them lived next door to Filipinos, and he said the sound of suffering dogs was so awful, that they eventually moved. They reported them to the humane society, but nothing was done. Can anyone confirm/deny this practice? The thought of it gives me nightmares.
    i'll answer the question this way. some "people" beat other people, torture them, murder them, then eat em with fava beans. so, in that sense, no one can deny/confirm that "people" do what was claimed to be done to dogs to prepare them as food.

    have you ever had foie gras? if the idea of force-feeding an animal to "clean it out" gives you nightmares, you had better never let your tongue and belly know the luscious joy of a fattened duck liver, otherwise you put yourself in the category of "hypocrite."

    god, i really hate this stereotype. i'll say it here again: it irks me that filipinos are painted in hawaii as if we, rabid and savage brown folk that we are, are the sole dog eaters of the world. only in the last twenty years or so was consuming dog meat banned in germany. it is well documented that south korea banned dog meat restaurants to "sanitize" seoul in preparation for the olympics. eating dog is a practice known to every continent in the world, without exception. even switzerland has dog meat sausages and jerky to this day.

    i will never deny that there are some of my people who like a bit of grilled fido on a sunday afternoon. some who do this are stupid enough to steal a dog from a country club and slaughter it. what sickens, saddens and incenses me is that there are those who purposely use this bit of truth to denigrate all my people and all my culture, reduce us to being that spooky, wierd and evil "other" and that even more folk, like unthinking, joyfully ignorant lemmings, perpetuate the racism.


    Quote Originally Posted by Pomai View Post

    Ever take a walk through Chinatown in Honolulu lately? I did just last week. While not nearly as shocking as what you'd find in other countries (or perhaps even other states), if you really look, there's enough of a visual slaughter-fest in the meat and fish markets there to open your mind and nostrils up. Surely at least a world beyond the tamed-down westernized environments of a typical Foodland, Safeway or Costco.

    Live frogs? Check. Whole rabbit carcasses? Check. Pig's heads and internal organs? Check. And the butchers there show no shame in displaying their knife skills, if you know what I mean.

    Comes down to philosophy 101.
    having just come from a trip in the philippines and walked around several "wet markets" where fresh meats, fish, etc are sold in the open air without the benefit of heat lamps, refrigeration, or sneeze guards, and where customers can reach out and touch a tenderloin with bare hands to decide whether to buy it, it is abundantly clear to me that we americans do not, generally, have a realistic or honest relationship with food.

    on the contrary, our relationship with food is based in fantasy. it's a rare one of us nowadays who knows what cutting open a carcass smells like, or how long it takes to grow that head of lettuce before it's the right size for a salad, or what patience it takes to catch a fish. our food just magically appears, wrapped in styrofoam and plastic, and made pretty by a host of people including butchers, genetic biologists, and large corporations.

    if you know how much feed it takes to fatten up a chicken so that it's ready for soup, you're not likely to fatten yourself with large amounts of chicken. if you witness firsthand the labor it takes to make one bowl of sushi rice, you're not likely going to gorge yourself on it or throw it away just because you can't finish it in one meal. if you had to gut and de-scale every fish you ate instead of purchase pre-cleaned, pre-fileted, vaccum-packed frozen cuts, you'd have an appreciation for food that the general american public does not have.

    i'll say it again: most americans have a relationship with food that is based in fantasy.

    take, for example, those people who refuse to eat any cut of meat unless it is boneless, headless, legless, eyeless, etc. personally, i feel that if you have no stomach to eat meat off the bone or don't have the respect for your food that you can eat it while looking into its (dead) eyes, you shouldn't eat meat at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
    So, how long would it take (day's/weeks) before your fellow man started looking like a ball park frank?
    hmmmmmm...about 2 hours
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    .. although that I'm asian.. NOPE, didn't even try to eat dog

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
    So, how long would it take (day's/weeks) before your fellow man started looking like a ball park frank?
    With or without clothes?
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    Hmm...according to the old stories, people taste like beaver.

    Even got a spetchul type psychological disorder for it called 'Windigo psychosis'

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendigo

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    If we are talking honestly here,,,,,,,,,,, then I don't know if I've eaten a dog.

    During my time in the BRN. (navy) I was in Burma. On one occasion I was served up something which I took to be lamb stew. The head of the village pointed to a dog,,,,,,,,,,,,,, It could have been one of them which I'd eaten.
    I hope not but I would be telling a lie to you good people if I said that at the time it was not delicious.
    Just gorra be careful in the future.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cynsaligia View Post
    having just come from a trip in the philippines and walked around several "wet markets" where fresh meats, fish, etc are sold in the open air without the benefit of heat lamps, refrigeration, or sneeze guards, and where customers can reach out and touch a tenderloin with bare hands to decide whether to buy it, it is abundantly clear to me that we americans do not, generally, have a realistic or honest relationship with food.
    Well said, Cyn. When she has access to a full sized keyboard, watch out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pomai View Post
    Ever take a walk through Chinatown in Honolulu lately? I did just last week. While not nearly as shocking as what you'd find in other countries (or perhaps even other states), if you really look, there's enough of a visual slaughter-fest in the meat and fish markets there to open your mind and nostrils up. Surely at least a world beyond the tamed-down westernized environments of a typical Foodland, Safeway or Costco.
    I was in Chinatown on Monday. I went into a place called Maunakea Marketplace and wandered around and found this little food court that had vendors from several countries. It looked good and smelled good so I thought I'd eat something. I needed to use the 'head' first, so I walked up to one of the stands and asked this elderly man behind the counter where the bathroom was. As he was telling me, I noticed movement behind him. Looking over his shoulder to the floor of the kitchen area in back, I saw this huge rat. Now mind you, this was the first time I'd ever seen a rat. He was no "Ratatoullie" like in the cartoon movie. It was as big as a small dog and it's fur was wet and stuck together in clumps. It's back was hunched up in a curve, but it looked over at me and the old man and seemed to be a little shocked himself. Then he proceeded further past the door frame out of my sight. HeHe. It blew my mind a little at the moment. Not a lot, but it was enough to keep me from eating there now or in the future. But what a great memory. Damn, if I could've somehow gotten that whole moment in a photograph!

    My Dad used to tell a story about his friends Dad who used to tell him the story. My Dad's friend was half-Chinese and his father was full Chinese. The old Chinaman had come to South Dakota, as many did, to work after gold was discovered in 1874. Up in Deadwood there is even an opium den under the streets you can take a tour through. Anyway, much like in Peshkwe's experience, he was invited to a Lakota Sioux feast. Apparently the elder in charge wanted to honor him by giving him first opportunity at the food and motioned to a large kettle of stew and said "Dig deep, puppy in the bottom". Whereupon Fliday's Dad said "I pluke".

    I've had rattlesnake, but it's been so long ago I can't remember if it tasted like chicken.

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    It's real good luck if the puppy's head floats up and looks at you from the pot.

    On the powwow circuit it's a fairly regular announcement for the arena director/MC to tell the spectators to not grab at the dancers regalia, no touching the feathers, ask before taking pictures and keep their dogs on the leash and out of the circle or the Ndn's will be eating puppy stew or B.L.T.'s (black lab on toast) for dinner that night.

    Snake is kinda like a cross between chicken and scallops.

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    Not to worry, Jim, there are plenty more and bigger rat to get pics of next time you venture to CT.

    Cyn, good post. Lot's of reality to digest, and I'm certainly one of those who live the meat fantasy, altho I deffinitely know and have respect for what has happened to place that perfect slice on my plate.

    I've killed chickens, but had no enjoyment of the meal. But enjoyed rattlesnake for years, which I caught and killed. I wouldn't consider snuffing any other critter, personally. I listen to hunters such as Ted Nugent (who simply loves to kill) rap on about the spirituals of stalking and killing and munching the 'fallen', but don't really buy into it.

    I worked at the Maunakea Marketplace years ago, selling live aqautics, and freaked when I turned to see a new worker chopped off a frogs head. Not cool. So, obviously I have the typical hypocritical attitude towards such.

    I have a great problem with killing domesticated types of animals, even for food. Hate it, and the people that do it. But, I've lived the American dream where we generally don't have to suffer like others, and survival (as we've come to know and love/hate it) is just down the block at Burger Whatevers.

    I'd be happy to live healthy without meat products, but meat seems to suit the human body well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cynsaligia View Post
    i'll answer the question this way. some "people" beat other people, torture them, murder them, then eat em with fava beans. so, in that sense, no one can deny/confirm that "people" do what was claimed to be done to dogs to prepare them as food.


    While I know there are some people vile enough to commit these acts on animals as well as humans, I was asking if it was a custom or tradition. My old coworker (who is married to a Filipino) claims it is, but he often says inflammatory things in order to get a rise out of people. I didnít want to ask my Filipino friends, for fear of making them feel uncomfortableÖ hence, my post here. I do apologize. I realized, when I posted, that I would anger some peopleÖ but, wanted to know for sure, so I wouldnít have these stupid thoughts in my head. Please donít be angry at me for asking. If I donít ask, Iíll continue to be ignorant.

    Quote Originally Posted by cynsaligia View Post
    have you ever had foie gras? if the idea of force-feeding an animal to "clean it out" gives you nightmares, you had better never let your tongue and belly know the luscious joy of a fattened duck liver, otherwise you put yourself in the category of "hypocrite."


    I refuse to eat foie gras. My reference to nightmares is picturing my old dogs being tortured. But yes, I know Iím a hypocrite. Definitely. Iím a carnivore, and I turn a deaf ear whenever thereís mention of abuse to pigs/cattle/chickens in slaughter houses.

    Quote Originally Posted by cynsaligia View Post
    god, i really hate this stereotype. i'll say it here again: it irks me that filipinos are painted in hawaii as if we, rabid and savage brown folk that we are, are the sole dog eaters of the world. only in the last twenty years or so was consuming dog meat banned in germany. it is well documented that south korea banned dog meat restaurants to "sanitize" seoul in preparation for the olympics. eating dog is a practice known to every continent in the world, without exception. even switzerland has dog meat sausages and jerky to this day.
    Quote Originally Posted by cynsaligia View Post

    i will never deny that there are some of my people who like a bit of grilled fido on a sunday afternoon. some who do this are stupid enough to steal a dog from a country club and slaughter it. what sickens, saddens and incenses me is that there are those who purposely use this bit of truth to denigrate all my people and all my culture, reduce us to being that spooky, wierd and evil "other" and that even more folk, like unthinking, joyfully ignorant lemmings, perpetuate the racism.


    I donít feel Filipinos are rabid and savage! Looking at the history and culture of any ethnic group reveals some kind of savagery toward animals and humanity. I also realize there are other ethnic groups that eat dogs, as well as cats, guinea pigs, and other cute furries.

    Again, I apologize. If anyone else would like to berate me, please do!




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