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    Lazyness is never a viable excuse for unused intellect. Curiosity should be quite enough to kill the cat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timkona View Post
    Lazyness is never a viable excuse for unused intellect.
    You presume intellect?! You presume waaaay too much.
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    White House technology in the dark ages for Obama and his crew. Guess the switch from Macs to PC's will be tough. Or will the White House go Mac all the way?

    Silly rabbit. Macs are for kids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timkona View Post
    White House technology in the dark ages for Obama and his crew. Guess the switch from Macs to PC's will be tough. Or will the White House go Mac all the way?

    Silly rabbit. Macs are for kids.
    No, Macs are for people who demand a better computer with far less(pretty much NO) potential for viruses. Also, for those who want far less technical interruptions and red tape to wade through so they can get down to doing the fun, creative stuff.

    I have a theory that there is a correlation between what brand of computer one uses and their political affiliation.

    Republicans = PC user
    Democrats = Mac users.

    I'm probably way off on this but it's a theory of mine.

    ME ? We have 5 macs in our house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tikiyaki View Post
    I have a theory that there is a correlation between what brand of computer one uses and their political affiliation.

    Republicans = PC user
    Democrats = Mac users.
    I use an abacus...where does that leave me? I know, I know, don't bother to give me the bad news (Luddite).

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    This is less about the person then about the role. I'd say the desktop in general:

    Windows - Business
    Mac - The arts
    Linux/Unix - Science

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    Quote Originally Posted by tikiyaki View Post
    [...]
    I have a theory that there is a correlation between what brand of computer one uses and their political affiliation.

    Republicans = PC user
    Democrats = Mac users.
    [...]
    I was part of an email list of friends, family and co-workers that began mid 2008. The common denominator, and the reason for that list, was our support for Obama. Some on that list were democrats. Some were republicans. One (moi!) was an independent republicrat! ALL were Mac users! Go figure!

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    Do we really need yet another thread to de-volve into a Mac/PC battle? Please, no. We get it already. Back on topic, anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo Lakio View Post
    Do we really need yet another thread to de-volve into a Mac/PC battle?
    Au contraire. GeckoGeek has made this one into a unique 3-way battle: Mac/PC/Linux.

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    Okay Leo. You got it.

    Cheers for President Obama taking out targets INSIDE Pakistan with missiles. They are griping about border sovereignty and this and that, but he stated clearly, more than once, during the campaign, that he (Obama) would cross international borders in pursuit of lawlessness. He also said he would do it in secret. Judgin by the fact that the media didnt report till a day and half later, I'd say he is sticking with his word.

    Transparency? Just a word that works like pablum, and goes well with Kool-Aid.

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    Come on you guys. Isn't everybody celebrating Obama's "Bush-esque" missile strikes in Pakistan. Took out 2 high level Al-Queda. That is a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timkona View Post
    Come on you guys. Isn't everybody celebrating Obama's "Bush-esque" missile strikes in Pakistan. Took out 2 high level Al-Queda. That is a good thing.
    Not necessarily. Win the battle, lose the war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timkona View Post
    Come on you guys. Isn't everybody celebrating Obama's "Bush-esque" missile strikes in Pakistan. Took out 2 high level Al-Queda. That is a good thing.
    I'm celebrating. It's the one thing Bush hadn't done recently.
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    Barack Obama on Tuesday abruptly abandoned his nomination fight for Tom Daschle and a second major appointee who failed to pay all their taxes, fearing a lingering ethics dispute would undercut his claims to moral high ground and cripple his presidency in just its second week. "I screwed up," Obama declared.

    "It's important for this administration to send a message that there aren't two sets of rules — you know, one for prominent people and one for ordinary folks who have to pay their taxes," Obama said near the end of a day of jarring developments, little more than 24 hours after he had said he was "absolutely" committed to Daschle's confirmation.

    "I'm frustrated with myself, with our team. ... I'm here on television saying I screwed up," Obama said on NBC's "Nightly News with Brian Williams." He repeated virtually the same words in interviews with other TV anchors.
    So - we've now had a couple of nominees who were foolish enough to not take care of their taxes (why are there politicians who still seem to think an issue like this won't be investigated?), others who were lobbyists in clear violation of the President's earlier claims that there would be zero tolerance for them in his administration, and members of Obama's staff who have clearly not done a thorough enough job in vetting their appointees.

    I am expecting a lot more from this administration, and I'm already seeing too much disappointing "business as usual" in these first two weeks - NOT good signs of "change." (See my sig line.)

    If this were a member of the GOP in office, a lot more people would be screaming their heads off about corrupt ethics; those of us on the Left should be demanding better behavior than this. We dare not claim any kind of superiority over the Right, until we prove it by our actions.

    Come on, Mr. President --- too much is riding on you and your team being above typical D.C. politics. Do the morally right things, and do them without hesitation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo Lakio View Post
    If this were a member of the GOP in office, a lot more people would be screaming their heads off about corrupt ethics; those of us on the Left should be demanding better behavior than this. We dare not claim any kind of superiority over the Right, until we prove it by our actions.

    Come on, Mr. President --- too much is riding on you and your team being above typical D.C. politics. Do the morally right things, and do them without hesitation.
    Obama set some high standards for himself and his administration. But when you do that, it's easy to get knocked off that pedestal.

    One refreshing difference between Obama and Bush 43. Obama was freely admitting that he screwed up. Complete 180 from Dubya's approach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie's Market View Post
    Obama was freely admitting that he screwed up.
    And here’s the President in the flesh, explaining his mistakes, what his administration must do to avoid further pitfalls, and how they plan to refocus Washington on the task at hand. Like you, Frankie, Obama compares himself to the previous administration, to soften the impact of the appointees fiasco. I think it’s fair for him to do that, but at some point, he needs to stop using that as a crutch and let his actions as president stand alone.

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    others who were lobbyists in clear violation of the President's earlier claims that there would be zero tolerance for them in his administration,
    The thing that really sticks in my craw is that Obama is still defending Daschle, a lobbyist for the health insurance industry, by saying that he was the best suited to oversee the health industry! What a crock! This really makes me angry! Daschle's selection was not a screw up, it shows an intentional lack of moral committment by Obama.

    and members of Obama's staff who have clearly not done a thorough enough job in vetting their appointees.
    No, the buck stops on Obama's desk. He knew Daschle was a lobbyist for the health insurance companies. Obama was merely rewarding an old crony that helped and encoraged him when he first ran for the Senate. That's politics as usual!

    those of us on the Left should be demanding better behavior than this.
    I don't see alot of public outrage from Democrats, but I don't see any support for Daschle either, other than Obama himself.

    I was reading in one blog, that Obama doesn't seem to realize that he tapped into a large reservoir of discontent and resentment of politics in Washington, which elected him. He will never be successful until he realizes that principle and gets on the bandwagon.

    I am EXTREMELY disappointed in Obama.
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    Of course you see no outrage from the left. Kool Aid dulls the senses.

    You folks got bamboozled. You don't have to admit it yet. I'm not going to press the issue. But eventually, the light will come on. It will be like staring at the sun. He's good looking. He's got the Harvard polish that 1/2 of Americans love. He puts lots of ummmms in his speech, which makes him seem "smart" to some folks who aren't. But, come on folks, the experience just isn't there. And it's becoming more obvious each day.

    He has hired, or tried to hire, lobbyists, and tax cheats.
    He has fired missiles into foreign nations. (Remember, Clinton did that too.)
    His stimulus package includes tons of money for Unions, the root cause of the demise of US mfg, some would say.
    Bill Ayers was not enough.
    Rev Wright was not enough.
    It would be easy to go on with other items that YOU should be outraged by.

    Mata, of course your are disappointed. It could not have gone any other way. It will get worse.


    Guess who won the election? Rush Limbaugh & Bill O'Reilly. And that is the tragedy of it.
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    Of course you see no outrage from the left. Kool Aid dulls the senses.
    So, the comments of Matapule and myself never happened? We are most definitely "the left," sir.
    Quote Originally Posted by timkona View Post
    You folks got bamboozled.
    Obama was not my first or second choice as a candidate, but when it came down to the final contest, I could not have voted for any of the other candidates this time out. Bamboozled, nothing - my preferred candidates were eliminated earlier in the contest, but my final option was quite clear.

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    It will get worse.
    Limiting executive pay to companies that receive a bailout is getting worse?
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    Leo, I'm curious about who your preferred candidates were. I though Bill Richardson was a great choice. Experience-wise, McCain was a no brainer, having been groomed his whole life for the job. But the shadow of Bush made rational decision making by voters nearly impossible.
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    McCain was a no brainer,
    Yes, Yes, Yes. Tim I finally agree with you on something. McCain was in fact a "no brainer" when he selected Para Sahlin as his running mate. Stupid is as stupid does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timkona View Post
    Leo, I'm curious about who your preferred candidates were. I though Bill Richardson was a great choice.
    Stated them a long time ago, in a thread far, far away --- but no need to make you go hunting. My earliest preferences were Edwards and Richardson, which is a little surprising, considering how much I rail against "politics as usual." Obama was clearly pandering to a farther-left perspective than either of them (or Clinton), but I did not believe that he would really represent it, if elected, and I still don't see it happening (even though I reside in a still much farther-left mindset). I thought either E. or R. were more "electable" as Democrats, but I didn't mind being proved wrong at the final outcome. McCain might have garnered my support, had he remained an independent thinker - but once he caved in to the neo-con party line in order to get the GOP nod, he lost my respect and any possibility of my vote. And don't even mention Palin.

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    BO deffinitely needs to cinch it back up. His vetting seems to be much less than initially tauted, with way too many personel failings over minor matters that explode, and much of the vetting looks to be from BO himself. Daschle was a terrible choice for anything and it was obvious payback.

    There have been enuf positives in the first 2 weeks to keep the dogs off, but I too expect/ed better from this president.

    BTW, the shadow of Bush, McCain's greased slide to the right, and the fact of Palin, secured the rational decision vote this time, dispite that there are still 50 million anxiously waiting to take Obama down in a few years.

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    John Edwards was the best choice as far back as the Kerry nomination. Dems missed the boat on that one totally in 2004.

    McCain screwed up so bad on the Palin thing, it cost him the election.

    Unfortunately, the modern Democratic Party has been overrun by the far left, with the NY Times carrying the flag, and George Soros financing the effort.

    President Obama needs to STOP pandering to them to get his presidency on the right track. No pun intended.
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