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  • #91
    Re: Noisy Neighbors

    The little kid and the parents, plus a couple of guests, don't live in the apartment, but were just visiting. Thinking about it, I understand abut having a handicapped kid and all...but what on earth were they doing all drunk and playing with the kid at midniht, anyway? They shoulda been at their own house...how much of being out late and being drunk contributed to the kid's behaviour?

    Kids start school at two and a half over here, and even..or especially, if this kid was autistic...he would have had to be at school by eight thirty the next day.

    It's difficult to understand the agressive reaction, as what I did by coming over and politely asking to think about their neighbors who couldn't sleep because of their noise was pretty much normal behaviour, and I'm pretty sure that if it hadn't have been me, then somebody else would've come out after a while to say the same thing.

    Joe the neighbor, who lives right next door, is forever screaming at and beating his wife...sometimes even tourists knock on his door to ask if things are ok. And once, a new neighbor screamed out the wondow at him to watch out (that was impressive, and Joe quieted down a bit afterwards).

    When Keala, my second son, was two, I decided it was time he stopped breastfeeding and he had such a fit (at midnight), that three neighbors came over to see what was the matter. I'd been upstairs contemplating suicide or infantice or psychiatric help when I heard the knock on the door and thought it was the Gendarmes....the three old dears at the door were surprised to see me and said they thought I'd gone out drinking and left the babies home alone (!!!). I got the inquisition as to what I was doing to the baby to make him cry so much.....and then the two kids (there were only two at that time) came down and giggled and began playing in the street so the busybodies went home...but fourteen years later there is still a story going around town that I left the kids to go out and drink.

    That made me mad, but the other side of the coin is that if anything ever does happen, it won't go un-noticed for long.
    http://thissmallfrenchtown.blogspot.com/
    http://thefrenchneighbor.blogspot.com/

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    • #92
      Re: Noisy Neighbors

      Originally posted by Barry View Post
      I don't want to be involed in the above conversation.

      Suffice to say that I was a Lieutenant Commander in the Royal Navy. It was my priviledge to serve along with your Seals. After our S.B.S they are the bravest people. My time spent in Pearl Harbour was superb but didn't get enough R & R. The Royal Navy work you to death.
      Sorry...didn't mean to dump you in it like that. I must've met another quality of Brits during my time in England. (it was motor traders from Neasden, mostly)
      http://thissmallfrenchtown.blogspot.com/
      http://thefrenchneighbor.blogspot.com/

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      • #93
        Re: Noisy Neighbors

        Originally posted by anapuni808 View Post
        Susie - I hope the gendarmes were able to help you and get charges filed. Assault is assualt, regardless of what country it occurs in.

        For the rest of us making suggestions - we all need to remember that Susie is in a unique situation - she lives in a small village in France, and on her own. Their laws & customs (and attitudes) may be much different than ours. Hopefully, the police there will look at this situation the same way we do. We, as her HT friends just need to continue to give her our support and affection.

        Susie - again, I hope you are OK and things will be worked out for you.
        I called the Gendarmes that night, but got to the head office at Pau, who told me to go locally and file a complaint the next day. So I stopped by the Gendarmerie the next day...they didn't want to bother about a complaint, but said they'd go round and speak to the couple that lives in the apartment. Since then, the wooden shutters on the windows have been shut tight, although the scooter outside comes and goes.
        http://thissmallfrenchtown.blogspot.com/
        http://thefrenchneighbor.blogspot.com/

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        • #94
          Re: Noisy Neighbors

          No probs > hun Be happy and if you need help, just give me a shout.

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          • #95
            Re: Noisy Neighbors

            http://lh5.ggpht.com/_zPWTiEOjszk/Rq...Tolede+009.jpg

            Part of the noise problem is that these tiny streets and alleyways cause sound to feel louder.

            If you click on the picture, I was standing at the very bottom left when I got whapped...you can see Joe's house right there, but the whappers' house is just out of reach. I live on the other side of the lane, just in front of the big house with the light blue shutters...but you can only see the edge of our house in this picture..
            http://thissmallfrenchtown.blogspot.com/
            http://thefrenchneighbor.blogspot.com/

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            • #96
              Re: Noisy Neighbors

              Hun ,,, Where I come from and with being in the Navy, all I need to say is people like that get stitches.
              I can feel you getting het up. X

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              • #97
                Re: Noisy Neighbors

                You know...I can deal with the old neighbors that don't like seeing a family with kids or a foreigner (Go back to Bush, Bitch!) in the neighborhood, I can deal with Joe and his nasty seven-miscarriage-and-a-philandering-husband-with-other-children wife, I can deal with Françoise who is a complete nutcase, or even Jackie the man who has sex with his Dobermann, or the lady in the street behind who kills my cats

                But violence like getting agressed simply from asking someone to be a bit quieter after midnight is difficult. Especially since I was polite about it.
                http://thissmallfrenchtown.blogspot.com/
                http://thefrenchneighbor.blogspot.com/

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                • #98
                  Re: Noisy Neighbors

                  Originally posted by SusieMisajon View Post
                  You know...I can deal with the old neighbors that don't like seeing a family with kids or a foreigner (Go back to Bush, Bitch!) in the neighborhood, I can deal with Joe and his nasty seven-miscarriage-and-a-philandering-husband-with-other-children wife, I can deal with Françoise who is a complete nutcase, or even Jackie the man who has sex with his Dobermann, or the lady in the street behind who kills my cats

                  But violence like getting agressed simply from asking someone to be a bit quieter after midnight is difficult. Especially since I was polite about it.

                  Say the word and I will be there. After all I do want one of your bacon butties.

                  Keep cool Hun and don't lose the plot. I am nearly on your doorstep.
                  Last edited by Barry; February 11, 2009, 01:00 AM.

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                  • #99
                    Re: Noisy Neighbors

                    Originally posted by Barry View Post
                    Say the word and I will be there. After all I do want one of your bacon butties.

                    Keep cool Hun and don't lose the plot. I am nearly on your doorstep.
                    (for those of you with your minds in the gutter....'butties' are a British word for sandwiches)
                    http://thissmallfrenchtown.blogspot.com/
                    http://thefrenchneighbor.blogspot.com/

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                    • Re: Noisy Neighbors

                      Originally posted by Frankie's Market View Post
                      Ummmm.... Peshkwe... Were you there to witness the event? As I alluded to in my previous post, sometimes it is the autistic child who desires and initiates the physical activity/playtime. Just because the adults happened to be drunk doesn't mean that they aren't, in fact, humoring and interacting with the child.

                      Now maybe you are right. Maybe the drunk adults used the child as a source of perverse amusement and mockery. But based strictly on what Susie wrote instead of making assumptions, one can't say for sure.

                      Howz about I rephrase it.

                      Drunks who have just attacked, bleeding on the ground would have amused me.

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                      • Re: Noisy Neighbors

                        Originally posted by SusieMisajon View Post
                        Anytime you try to tell a frog (or a Brit, for that matter...ask Barry) that the US saved their asses during the war, they'll just tell you that the Americans only sat on the fence throughout and came in at the last minute just because of Pearl Harbour. They can get quite insulted about this whole issue, so I've stopped mentioning it.
                        Too bad they feel that way. America spent more than three years and provided most of the hardware, munitions and soldiers. Without Roosevelt's pre-war clandestine planning, the lend/lease act (we never insisted on getting paid back in full), and eventual full-fledged efforts, the Brits and others would have eventually been isolated and overrun. The war would have run much longer. And the world would be very different today.

                        Oh well. At least we get to keep the pretty statue they left on our doorstep outside of Manhattan. :-)

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                        • Re: Noisy Neighbors

                          Originally posted by SusieMisajon View Post
                          Thanks.

                          They were young and drunk and very agressive, and I suppose that the story isn't finished, yet, as I will be going over to the Gendarmes later today to file a complaint.

                          It's really amazing how people freak out when you don't respond to violence with violence....it's like they didn't know what to do when I didn't whap back but continued to speak politely. It did work, I guess...they went in after and shut the door and there was no more noise.

                          I've got a good welt across my face.
                          Yikes! That's terrible! You did the right thing, all the way... please let us know how this turns out. I feel for the child, YET striking you was very wrong. I'm thinking Joe was scared or deaf.

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                          • Re: Noisy Neighbors

                            Does anyone know what the law is regarding excessive noise? My neighbors blast their music regularly as if the entire neighborhood and surrounding ones too would want to hear their music.

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                            • Re: Noisy Neighbors

                              In Europe we have the Anti Social Behaviour Order.
                              We can apply for an ASBO against noisy or violent neighbours. This takes a while to come through but in the meantime we can take out an injuction against them.
                              This means that they can't come anywhere near you or your property for 12 months. ( It also means that they have to move !) It costs about £60 but if the neighbours all chip in then it's worth it.
                              By the time the 12 months are over, the ASBO has been brought in and the troublesome neighbours will not return.

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                              • Re: Noisy Neighbors

                                Originally posted by Adri View Post
                                Does anyone know what the law is regarding excessive noise? My neighbors blast their music regularly as if the entire neighborhood and surrounding ones too would want to hear their music.
                                Call the cops.

                                Tip: When you call, ask if the dispatcher can hear the music. Then inform them how far away the neighbors are. That seems to help get someone out. It also make it clear that this is above just being able to hear the music, but that it's loud.

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