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    Default Re: Oahu power outage for 12/26/08 to 12/27/08

    Checking in.
    Glad to hear that all of you are okay. Power came back here just about half an hour ago. We were out for 19-1/2 hours.
    Gotta go restore all our systems -- timers, security cameras, etc.
    Checking out...
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    That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

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    I agree Mike Buck handled things extremely well as did the KSSK team. For whatever reason the caller from Akron, OH I thought sounded like a prank call, which KSSK received several during the night. Free advertising for all of the local food places and grocery stories who remained open. I only had a few dollars in my pocket and picked up a cold sandwhich at Star Market at Kam Shopping Center. You can't get cash out of a ATM system so it shows how much we rely on power for so many things.

    Ironic how the electrical system can be shut down so quickly, yet to turn it back on it takes so long? Mayor Eileen Anderson in 1982 after Hurricane Iwa caused massive power outages on Oahu said we need to be sure that this never happens again, I think it was repeated in 2006 and yesterday as well. History continues to repeat itself over and over again.

    Remember this as well, Hurricane Iwa hit Kauai with the majority of damage, yet power was shut off on Oahu, the Big Island earthquake caused minimal electrical outages on all of the islands, except for Oahu.

    Does anyone remember power outages during Iniki?

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    We will have to keep our eye on the maternity wards come next October.

    Wonder if there will be a spike in births?
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    Quote Originally Posted by timkona View Post
    Wonder if there will be a spike in births?
    The guy at the restaurant I was at last night said the last time Oahu had rolling blackouts, he and his wife conceived their second child.


    I was as unprepared as you can get. I don't even own candles. It's on my list of things to buy. Luckily I happened to be with a friend when the power went out and she let me stay the night. We played cards by candlelight and it was honestly a lot of fun.

    I was a little concerned even to go home because my apartment building's stairwells lock behind you. You can go down the stairs, but you can't go back up and in. The power was already back when I got home, and when I asked at the security desk I was told they'd had a generator and one elevator running all night, which I guess is good for the people on the 24th floor but I wonder what would happen if the generator went out?

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    I pass on candles, between the winds and the fear of falling asleep while they are on just bothers me a bit.

    Check this out, AP writer says Obama is staying "near downtown Honolulu". I chuckled when I also read that Mufi "governs the entire island" as well.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081228/...awaii_power_17

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalihiboy View Post
    I chuckled when I also read that Mufi "governs the entire island" as well.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081228/...awaii_power_17
    I donít get the punchline. Technically, Mufi does govern the entire island, since the City and County of Honolulu includes all of OĎahu. Am I missing something?

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    <with a glass of wine in hand...>
    PHEEEEEEEEW!!!

    Was in Makaha during this lightless extravaganza and when we still had no electricity at 3p today I decided to try my best to save all the frozen food...my own, personal MREs that I cooked up last month. I'm back in town...which wasn't on my calendar 'til next Tues.

    In the plus column, I had a hurricane kit with a hand crank radio/flashlight. I also had one of those silly tap lights that came in very handy...not to mention lotsa batteries. I, too, commend KSSK. Mike and Larry...you're the best! And, I got a great upper body work-out listening to you!

    In the minus column...the snacks in the hurricane kit were really stale. My arms ache from all that crankin'! My cell phone battery chose yesterday to begin what appears to be a rapid death. Didn't make much difference tho' 'cuz no service, regardless of the provider. I was secretly cussing out HawTel wireless when I heard a condo employee mention that no one had cell service. Oh, and my iPod battery died...not that that has anything to do with the outage! I've needed a new laptop battery for months. Still do! I felt so inaccessible and realized how much I depend on my cell phone as a security blanket when I drive.

    All my frozen food is currently alive and well and living in town! There was no way I was going to let all that cooking end up in the trash! I stopped by a HawTel store to buy a cell battery and they no longer carry that kinda merchandise.

    On my 'to do' list...in addition to the hand crank radio, I also need a regular transistor radio in each hurricane kit. The hand crank is a good back-up. I also need to update the food!!! Blech! I need 2 working cell phone batteries altho' I was able to recharge in the car what little battery power was left.

    To add insult to injury, when I left my condo building at 3p today I learned that power had been restored up to one block away! Security told me HECO couldn't give them an estimated time for Makaha.

    Town condo building, I heard, fared pretty well. All elevators (4 in each tower) continued to work via a generator. Other buildings in the area, despite having generators, weren't so lucky.

    What an adventure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TuNnL View Post
    I donít get the punchline. Technically, Mufi does govern the entire island, since the City and County of Honolulu includes all of OĎahu. Am I missing something?
    Not that the statement is wrong, it's just that you don't hear Mufi as governing the island too often.

    Aj

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalihiboy View Post
    Remember this as well, Hurricane Iwa hit Kauai with the majority of damage, yet power was shut off on Oahu, the Big Island earthquake caused minimal electrical outages on all of the islands, except for Oahu.

    Does anyone remember power outages during Iniki? Aj
    Quote Originally Posted by sophielynette View Post
    The guy at the restaurant I was at last night said the last time Oahu had rolling blackouts, he and his wife conceived their second child.
    I don't think we lost power during Iniki (1992), at least not on Oahu. I remember the power outage during Iwa (1982) ... it eventually resulted in rolling blackouts, the first time I ever heard that phrase.

    Speaking of rolling blackouts, we haven't experienced much of that in recent years. Now, we get total blackouts. Then a slow but steady restoration of power. Did something change between then and now?

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    After the last outage from the earthquake, we went out and bought a couple of battery powered flourescent lanterns. Turned out to be a blessing as we had lots of light without all that constant hissing noise. If we need them, we also have 2 propane lanterns and several oil lamps. We also made use of a butane stove to heat up some water for Mel's hot cocoa and our coffee. We'd finished dinner just before the outage.

    I always keep a stash of D, C and AA batteries on hand. The big packs from Costco. I, also, filled my tub mostly for use to flush the toilets and a couple of 5 gal. water bottles for consumption. Wife wants me to get a generator. <sigh>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honoruru View Post
    I don't think we lost power during Iniki (1992), at least not on Oahu. I remember the power outage during Iwa (1982) ... it eventually resulted in rolling blackouts, the first time I ever heard that phrase.[...]
    The Waianae Coast lost power during Iniki. My condo building was the hardest hit building on Oahu and the lengthy loss of electricity caused a number of medical emergencies.

    Iwa hit right before Thanksgiving causing the rolling blackouts to occur during the height of cooking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalihiboy View Post
    Remember this as well, Hurricane Iwa hit Kauai with the majority of damage, yet power was shut off on Oahu, the Big Island earthquake caused minimal electrical outages on all of the islands, except for Oahu.

    Does anyone remember power outages during Iniki?
    To be honest Oahu sufferred wind damage during Iwa which caused the blackouts after it had hit. There was a island wide blackout in either 1983 or 1984 due to fire damaging electrical towers.

    There was no island wide blackout during Iniki.

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    Doug Carlson brings up alot of questions and good points in his comments here:

    http://yourchore.blogspot.com/

    And as some might recall he was the HECO spokesperson during Hurricane Iwa in 1982.

    Aj

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    Quote Originally Posted by timkona View Post
    We will have to keep our eye on the maternity wards come next October.

    Wonder if there will be a spike in births?
    Wasn't there a Filipina lady who wanted to make an announcement on Perry and Price and who said something like everyone should go to bed and get closer to their loved ones? and Price made some comment about whether that would increase the Filipino population?

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    I remember the power loss during Iniki, I also remember the company I worked for quickly rolling out a t-shirt design that was a hot seller.......

    We were making hash (eating kind not smoking kind) from the wasabi crusted prime rib roast I made on Christmas eve when the power went out. Luckily we could poach the eggs to top and crisp the hash on the gas grill side burner. Note to self: always have a grill with a side burner!We had candles going and when we went to sleep we had those rechargeable candles set about the house and bedroom for a soft glow and so we didn't trip/fall/ whatever when using the lua.

    Our power went back on about 12:30 and we commenced by drinking a cold Foster's or two and making above mentioned hash for lunch with eggs again. A trip to the farmer's market at KCC yielded stories of no traffic lights, and long long long lines at the vendors who sell ready made food. We are now making butternut squash soup, homemade pizza and quaffing vodka with seltzer and lime!

    Perry and Price did a great job, I should listen to them more often and not only in times of disaster. I tip my hat and Manele & Koele raise their paws in salute to their fine programming! O.K., I have to admit I grew weary and bored every time the HECO spokesperson updated by number of how many households had power restored.....mainly because we weren't among them!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalihiboy View Post
    Doug Carlson brings up alot of questions and good points in his comments here:

    http://yourchore.blogspot.com/
    I like those questions for HECO. I have the same questions myself.

    I hate to be overly critical in these situations since I can empathize with the pressures of being an engineer, but I find it hard to believe that something as common as a lightning strike can cause an island-wide outage for 12 hours.

    The outage following the '06 earthquake was understandable. I imagine it's impossible to cost-effectively design that level of availability into the infrastructure. A lightning strike, though? Come on, HECO. You have to expect lightning will hit your equipment on a regular basis. If it takes out a part of the island, OK; if it takes out the entire island for an hour, OK; but it took out the entire island for 12 hours!

    If anyone here works at HECO, used to work at HECO, knows someone, or just knows a lot about HECO, please explain it to me. I just don't get it.

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    I had the impression that part of the 12 hour time was to inspect the transmission cables which were harder to do given it was during the night and questionable weather conditions.

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    Hooray for Doug Carlson, I too would like answers to those questions.

    Personally, I donít think very highly of Perry; he takes a dumb stand on his show and wonít allow anyone with an opposing view on the air. The last straw for me was when he went off about the sewer system using ancient Roman technology, i.e. gravity. But thatís off topic. His remarks to the person from Akron were rude; plain and simple.

    To be fair I will have to say he is a good entertainer and other than his complete blind loyalty to HECO and rudeness to those who have an opposing view, he did a great job during the blackout.

    I remember we had an island wide blackout cause by a cane fire under high voltage power lines, HECO said they needed alternate lines in case some lines go down. They were then allowed to put up the alternate lines. You can see some of them on Kam highway in Pearl City and Aiea. So what happened? Do they need to install a third set of power lines?
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    Interesting story today on Time Magazine’s website. It appears to be the most detailed information from a national media source, on the official steps taken to protect President-elect Barack Obama.
    The $11 million rental property where Obama is staying lost power at 8:08 p.m. Friday night, prompting a security scramble by Honolulu police, the U.S. Secret Service and the U.S. military.

    Honolulu Mayor Mufi Hannemann ordered the Honolulu police department to beef up patrols in the area around Obama's beachfront compound while the Hawaiian Electric Company sent a portable generator to the home to ensure that Obama's family and staff were powered up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timkona View Post
    We will have to keep our eye on the maternity wards come next October.

    Wonder if there will be a spike in births?
    If the blackout lasted 12 hours. What else could I do with the rest of the 11 hours and 59 minutes?

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    my wife, daughter and i just finished eating at the ala moana shopping center when the lights went out; u can imagine what it was like with hundreds of people trying to drive out at the same time without any traffic signals! people were very cool, tho; i didn't see a single driver blow his cool.

    in fact, the coolest sight was seeing a civilian with a weak flashlight directing traffic in slippers on keeaumoku! people were shouting "you're doing a great job man!" from their cars.
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    Power out 6:15pm, 26th, back on 12:45pm, 27th - ahuimanu Valley.

    Mo better than New England in mid-winter 1972, light's out for ONE WHOLE WEEK!!! (I was there!) Wood fire heat, freezers waz outside, no phojnes, no nothing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lei Liko View Post
    Anyone heard from Auntie Lynn?
    Auntie Lynn was at the Kau Kau Wagon's Christmas of Hope today giving out slippahs and spreading her aloha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honoruru View Post
    I don't think we lost power during Iniki (1992), at least not on Oahu. I remember the power outage during Iwa (1982) ... it eventually resulted in rolling blackouts, the first time I ever heard that phrase.

    Speaking of rolling blackouts, we haven't experienced much of that in recent years. Now, we get total blackouts. Then a slow but steady restoration of power. Did something change between then and now?
    Good question that certainly deserves an informed answer from the powers-that-be at HECO.

    The rolling blackouts, of course, referred to HECO not being at 100% capability in the days following Hurricane Iwa. So at night, some neighborhoods had their power and other didn't. But if you had your lights, you couldn't gloat because at a certain point, your power was liable to be shut off so that the previously dark neighborhoods would get their turn at having their power turned on.

    The pros and cons of each situation are pretty obvious. With the rolling blackouts, at least some parts of the island had power, and you would at least have some hours of electricity. You could drive out to the areas that had power in order to buy whatever you needed from stores and restaurants. The disadvantage is that the rolling blackouts could be stretched out over a few days.

    Yesterday's total blackout lasted for basically half a day. So the good thing was that virtually everyone got back their power within a day. The bad thing is that while the island is totally pitch black, it's hard to find restaurants and businesses that are open. And what few are open are packed to the gill with customers.
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