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    Circumstances put us in Waikiki for a "staycation..." this past weekend. Gotta say, the only "crowds" we encountered (and not very crowded at that) were standing around gawking at the tired assortment of variety acts on the mauka side of Kalakaua Avenue. Newspaper man, gold man, guy with his two daughters doing karaoke (no shame, or what?), a couple of steel drum guys, several (!) foot-massage-with-lotion people, break dancers, couple of preachers, baloon guy, etc. Went to the $$$$ restaurant where we always used to go (pre kids) for anniversaries ... maybe thirty tables in the place, only four occupied; server says they have had 8 servers on duty, going to four or possibly five this week, shop people leap up and trail you around the store, but MANY stores without any customers at all. Wow...

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    I was in Waikiki for a concert on Sat. night and mentioned to the cabbie how crowded it was; that it was great to see so many people out and about. I figured it had more to do with the post-Kuhio Day celebrations than anything else. I have no idea about restaurants and retail but I was bumping into people right and left on Kalakaua. This was at 9:30p. The Royal Hawaiian theater holds 750 and it was almost full. Granted, I was in Waikiki for a small snippet of time so I can't speak for the entire week-end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimo View Post
    standing around gawking at the tired assortment of variety acts on the mauka side of Kalakaua Avenue. Newspaper man, gold man, guy with his two daughters doing karaoke (no shame, or what?), a couple of steel drum guys, several (!) foot-massage-with-lotion people, break dancers, couple of preachers, baloon guy, etc.
    We need to bring back Charles Marsland.

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    Why, did he like the balloon guy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimo View Post
    Circumstances put us in Waikiki for a "staycation..." this past weekend. Gotta say, the only "crowds" we encountered (and not very crowded at that) were standing around gawking at the tired assortment of variety acts on the mauka side of Kalakaua Avenue. Newspaper man, gold man, guy with his two daughters doing karaoke (no shame, or what?), a couple of steel drum guys, several (!) foot-massage-with-lotion people, break dancers, couple of preachers, baloon guy, etc. Went to the $$$$ restaurant where we always used to go (pre kids) for anniversaries ... maybe thirty tables in the place, only four occupied; server says they have had 8 servers on duty, going to four or possibly five this week, shop people leap up and trail you around the store, but MANY stores without any customers at all. Wow...
    I call shenanigans. No way Waikiki is slow...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
    Why, did he like the balloon guy?
    Nah...balloon guy hasn't been around that long! I actually auditioned him for a commercial a coupla weeks ago...otherwise I wouldn't have even known there was a balloon guy on Kalakaua! He's a single dad just trying to eek out a living in paradise.

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    As much as I support the sidewalk enteprenuers, I always avoid that section, if I'm EVER in Waikiki, which is rare. I can understand most complaints about the whole thing, it's pretty much a disgrace, but I'll give a 'tutusue' pass to balloon guy, I like balloons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cabanalane View Post
    We need to bring back Charles Marsland.
    Is this supposed to be gallows humor? Marsland died a couple of years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie's Market View Post
    Is this supposed to be gallows humor? Marsland died a couple of years ago.
    That's a big word, I'm not sure exactly what that means.

    When I made the post, I did not know he died in 2007, until I looked it up.

    I'm a supporter of Marsland and his tough stance on crime. I credit him in cleaning up Waikiki in the past. I know many were upset how he would arrest video store clerks for distribution of porn, but so what. Sure he had movtives for going after organized crime, again so what? One less bad guy on the street is better for all anyhow.

    If Marsland is still around today in his prime, he would not put up with that BS. Waikiki would be cleaned up. And Chinatown too.

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    Default Oh, Chuck, where are you when we need you!

    Yes, those naughty clerks are the worst of the worst!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cabanalane View Post
    That's a big word, I'm not sure exactly what that means.
    Are you talking about gallows humour?

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    never mind
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeckoGeek View Post
    Are you talking about gallows humour?
    "Take your dying with some seriousness, however. Laughing on the way to your execution is not generally understood by less advanced life forms, and they'll call you crazy."

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    Too funny.

    I've been away from the internet due to being busy in Waikiki!

    Waikiki is alive and well.

    Balloon man went to Ireland two weeks ago. It's Spring break and the the place is hopping. Waikiki is always busy with tourists from all over the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1stwahine View Post
    Too funny.
    I've been away from the internet due to being busy in Waikiki!
    Love and ALOHA,
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    Any time you are back is cause for celebration! Yay!

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    Tourist traffic is DEFINITELY down in the evenings in Waikiki. I used to walk every evening, and it was quite a challenge to dodge and weave in and out of the meandering pedestrians when I was in my speed walking mode. Now I barely have to alter my path at all, even in the busiest areas near the street performers.

    The crowd is different too--more European/American/Australian tourists. Not so many Japanese.

    Interesting thing though...I'm seeing more local people in Waikiki now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1stwahine View Post
    Too funny.

    I've been away from the internet due to being busy in Waikiki!

    Waikiki is alive and well.

    Balloon man went to Ireland two weeks ago. It's Spring break and the the place is hopping. Waikiki is always busy with tourists from all over the world.

    Love and ALOHA,

    Auntie Lynn

    Great to see you back

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1stwahine View Post
    Too funny.

    I've been away from the internet due to being busy in Waikiki!

    Waikiki is alive and well.

    Balloon man went to Ireland two weeks ago. It's Spring break and the the place is hopping. Waikiki is always busy with tourists from all over the world.

    Love and ALOHA,

    Auntie Lynn
    It was nice chatting with you briefly when I was on my morning walk. I have to remember to keep an eye out for you. Are you mostly working there during the day?

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    I receive a monthly email newsletter from Oahu realtor George Stott. This is part of what he had to say in this mornings April newsletter:

    "Lucky you live Hawaii!" is getting grimmer. The plummeting economic
    conditions in our 50th state mirror what is occurring throughout much of the
    Mainland. Hawaii had its largest decline in tourist arrivals last year since
    the state started keeping statistics in 1927. Visitor spending was down $1.2
    billion comparing calendar year 2008 to 2007.
    I don't know if his statistics are valid or not.

    The economy will rebound! In many ways, I think it is good for the economy to go through a "house cleaning" periodically. It makes you appreciate more, what you do have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbsolutChaos View Post
    Interesting thing though...I'm seeing more local people in Waikiki now...
    The economic downturn might give Waikīkī businesses an opportunity to appeal to locals who wouldn't have gone near the place for some time - an opportunity for residents to reclaim a piece of their own Honolulu.
    Quote Originally Posted by matapule View Post
    In many ways, I think it is good for the economy to go through a "house cleaning" periodically. It makes you appreciate more, what you do have.
    Indeed. The end of an era of American excess is healthy. Our economy has been morbidly obese for some time, and we're suffering the consequences. The people who have been pushing to simplify their lives may be the ones suffering the least, from what I observe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo Lakio View Post
    The economic downturn might give Waikīkī businesses an opportunity to appeal to locals who wouldn't have gone near the place for some time - an opportunity for residents to reclaim a piece of their own Honolulu.
    Some businesses (like the high-end designer stores and virtually all the vendors at the International Market Place) simply won't be able to attract any local customers. And those who can attract some dollars from the kama'aina market (the live shows, restaurants, hotels) won't be able to survive either if their revenues weren't augmented with tourist dollars.

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo Lakio View Post
    The end of an era of American excess is healthy. Our economy has been morbidly obese for some time, and we're suffering the consequences. The people who have been pushing to simplify their lives may be the ones suffering the least, from what I observe.
    Depends. Someone could have been very fiscally prudent and thrifty for much of their lives,..... and still be suffering today because they unexpectedly lost their job as a result of the recession. Not everyone in dire straits were reckless spenders or were among those who had gotten in over their head in the subprime mortgage debacle. There are a lot of innocent victims in this economic downturn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie's Market View Post
    Someone could have been very fiscally prudent and thrifty for much of their lives,..... and still be suffering today because they unexpectedly lost their job as a result of the recession. Not everyone in dire straits were reckless spenders or were among those who had gotten in over their head in the subprime mortgage debacle. There are a lot of innocent victims in this economic downturn.
    Indeed. There is no one specific "class" whose members are all suffering or surviving to an equal degree. Your last sentence (highlighting mine) is sadly accurate.

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    I was curious to see what Waiks was like after reading this thread and having been gone for a while.

    My opinion is. Waiks screams "What recession?"

    Man it's crowded done there. tons of people even on weekday nights. I thought i might get to come to Waiks and enjoy not so many peeps being there, but I was dead wrong. Beaches still look like the "red crabs on Christmas Island" with all the people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LocalMotion View Post
    I was curious to see what Waiks was like after reading this thread and having been gone for a while.

    My opinion is. Waiks screams "What recession?"

    Man it's crowded done there. tons of people even on weekday nights. I thought i might get to come to Waiks and enjoy not so many peeps being there, but I was dead wrong.
    Yep! I just got off work. It was a busy night as ever and moa so on a Friday night. Soooo many people. Which is great.

    In beautiful, magical Waikiki!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1stwahine View Post
    Yep! I just got off work. It was a busy night as ever and moa so on a Friday night. Soooo many people. Which is great.

    In beautiful, magical Waikiki!

    Auntie Lynn
    Hi Auntie Lynn

    you work in Waiks? whereabouts?

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