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    Quote Originally Posted by Peshkwe View Post
    I wonder if bed bug eggs glow in the dark like head lice eggs do when hit with an ultra-violet florescent light?
    http://www.ambericawest.com/blacklight2.html
    I don't know if that is true, but I do know that this fact from the website is true: cat urine shows up under black light. I'll never rent or buy anything other than a new home again without first checking what the previous tenants pets have done to the carpet. And, to add to the thrill of black light examinations, body fluids show up. Think hotel room ....
    Now run along and play, but donít get into trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amati View Post
    I don't know if that is true, but I do know that this fact from the website is true: cat urine shows up under black light. I'll never rent or buy anything other than a new home again without first checking what the previous tenants pets have done to the carpet. And, to add to the thrill of black light examinations, body fluids show up. Think hotel room ....
    Supposedly and probably true, the TV remote in hotel rooms is the germiest
    thing in there as they never get cleaned!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amati View Post
    I don't know if that is true, but I do know that this fact from the website is true: cat urine shows up under black light. I'll never rent or buy anything other than a new home again without first checking what the previous tenants pets have done to the carpet. And, to add to the thrill of black light examinations, body fluids show up. Think hotel room ....
    Oh! Oh!!

    You just reminded me of something for posting on the 'Off-label' thread!

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    More on Black Light inspection:
    The supplier admits this photo is enhanced, but you'll get the idea of what might be lurking in that hotel bathroom. I've seen similar type "real" pics on TV investigative shows, only of the hotel room WALLS. The site also has a pic of a pillowcase ..... I shudder to think of the bedspread.

    http://www.blacklightworld.com/cleaning.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by cynsaligia View Post
    she admits that when next step started (i believe it was in 2006), there was a problem with bed bugs and lice etc. however, in the years since, they've greatly controlled the problem, even hiring a company to do pest control regularly. their 200 families are currently pest-free, and have been for quite some time.
    Try asking those that live there.
    When it opened, there was of course virtually no problem, but it soon became so and rapidly increased and has remained high even with the exterminator's work because they don't get into the tight areas where the bed bugs hide when nobody is around to gorge on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
    Try asking those that live there.
    When it opened, there was of course virtually no problem, but it soon became so and rapidly increased and has remained high even with the exterminator's work because they don't get into the tight areas where the bed bugs hide when nobody is around to gorge on.
    Ron, aren't you kinda beating a dead horse here? We all know that infestations come from the outside, and any new person can bring in something (including rampant ignorance).
    We have all heard that the people running the shelter are aware of potential problems and working to prevent infestations.
    Having had to deal with a bedbug infestation in my own house (from places unmentioned because they are dealing with the problem), I know that the infestation is EASILY contained and eliminated.

    Seriously, it sounds to me like you have a personal vendetta against Next Step, and maybe even against RR9! What's the story here?

    Do you have Next Step residents available to make complaints or allegations? Is this just a case of 'someone kicked me out for drug use, so I'm gonna get revenge?'

    Dude, get real. If there's a REAL infestation call DOH vector control. Same for the theatres! They are ready to MOVE! They are twiddling their thumbs waiting for something to do! All they need is a REAL problem, not 'talk on the street.'

    It's called: defecate, or get off the pot!
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    No agenda against either, and I actually hope the purported problem at the theater was erroneous and that Next Step has indeed solved theirs. I was merely running on info I heard which seemed to have enuf substance to make it a worthwhile topic on this forum. It's not like we're overloaded with discussion here these day's..., and if putting forth subject matter that isn't popular with some and the resulting responses is construed as whining, then I plead no contest. The bed bug matter, across the island and maybe state, is one that is not being dealt with sufficiently by the authorities and it should be getting more attention. That's not a dead horse.

    BTW, never been kicked out of anywhere (that I can recall), nor had a drug 'problem' since pre/early teen years, so that's a head scratcher of a comment.
    As far as having NS residents available to comment, no, I don't hang with that gang, only occassionally run into those with that kind of info, and found it disgustingly interesting thinking maybe others would as well.

    After seeing Cyn's endless and erroneous ramblings yet again from the other day, after I was content to let the topic die, it was legit to respond.

    But, bed bugs are a real and serious situation here these day's.
    Just heard today that the Nuuanu YMCA is overrun with them, and friends in a very nice Waikiki condo had to toss their entire bed this weekend to try and rid their apt. from the vermin after never having a problem for decades.

    The DOH and the pot; I've already mentioned the fact that the DOH is overburdened without the funds and personel to do what's neccessary on many levels. This is from their mouths, not just mine here. I've been there plenty of times for other matters and met with limited success at getting attention on various issues for those reasons. There's only so much one person can do if the Dept. can't handle the load. If the shelters and State don't wish to jump on it to fix the problems then it's not gonna be fixed without plenty of public defecation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
    1. I was merely running on info I heard which seemed to have enuf substance to make it a worthwhile topic on this forum. (...) 2. The bed bug matter, across the island and maybe state, is one that is not being dealt with sufficiently by the authorities and it should be getting more attention. (...) 3. BTW, never been kicked out of anywhere (that I can recall), nor had a drug 'problem' since pre/early teen years, so that's a head scratcher of a comment. (...) 4. As far as having NS residents available to comment, no, I don't hang with that gang, only occassionally run into those with that kind of info, and found it disgustingly interesting thinking maybe others would as well. But, bed bugs are a real and serious situation here these day's. (...) 5. Just heard today that the Nuuanu YMCA is overrun with them, and friends in a very nice Waikiki condo had to toss their entire bed this weekend to try and rid their apt. from the vermin after never having a problem for decades. (...) 6. The DOH and the pot; I've already mentioned the fact that the DOH is overburdened without the funds and personel to do what's neccessary on many levels. This is from their mouths, not just mine here. I've been there plenty of times for other matters and met with limited success at getting attention on various issues for those reasons. There's only so much one person can do if the Dept. can't handle the load. If the shelters and State don't wish to jump on it to fix the problems then it's not gonna be fixed without plenty of public defecation.
    I'm going to assume you understand the reason for the ellipsis [(...)], and understand the reason I used colored numbers. If not, please ask.

    1. No doubt it is a worthwhile topic, but at some point SOMEONE must follow up and separate rumor from fact. I had hoped it would be you, since as far as HT is concerned, YOU are the source of the rumor.

    2. The job of the "authorities," (I assume you mean DOH Vector Control) is to IDENTIFY and recommend strategies for control. They are not funded for 'search and destroy' missions.

    3. Ah, you thought I meant you! You mentioned that you got the information from "(...) a group of homeless, some that are from Next Step, (...)" I thought the source of your information could have come from a disgruntled resident or former resident. Seemed obvious to me.... I never meant to implicate you, I beg your pardon!

    4. Bedbugs happen. They are relatively easy to eliminate. You were our only source of contact to the residents with complaints. What did you expect? As far as bedbugs being serious... well, I think mosquitoes actually have a greater threat potential (for spreading disease), but I'm not an entomologist, so I'm JUST guessing.

    5. Nuuanu YMCA? Y not? I'm certain they have the resources to deal with it, but that is contingent upon people KNOWING there is a problem! Has the Y's management been informed? Have complaints been made to the managers? Or are people just talking stink?
    Talking stink does NOT solve problems (or if it does it's the long way around), going through proper channels solves problems. HT is hardly proper channels. However if you felt that someone here could contact the proper channels or steer you to do so, well, I tried. Realize that State agencies cannot act on rumors third-hand, the person or persons with the problem must go to the proper source to get problems solved.

    BTW, it is NOT necessary to toss one's bed to get rid of bedbugs. Washing all bedding and clothes in HOT soapy water is adequate to clear them, and mattress fumigation either twice (after eggs hatch) or over time within an impermeable plastic mattress cover can save the mattress. Room fumigation doesn't hurt either.

    Here is one of MANY online sites that offer information. This one also sells a product: caveat emptor.
    http://www.tallmanscientific.com/bed...radication.php
    Here's one that speaks to the OP!!!!
    http://www.hotel-online.com/News/PR2004_1st/Jan04_BedBugs.html
    Hit Google for 7,312 more sites, some giving away information and selling nothing.

    6. The DOH has adequate funds, personnel and time to do their job, which for Vector Control is identifying problems and providing instructions for the eradication thereof. It is NOT the job of the State to clean up every flea, bedbug, mosquito, cane toad, mongoose or snake on the island. It is the job of inhabitants to properly act upon the information provided. They DO perform on-site inspections when necessary, but bedbugs have very distinctive habits, droppings, bites, so it is usually not necessary. Samples brought to them WILL be analyzed at no cost. As I have already stated, when I called them they were ready to go, THAT DAY, to do an on-site. I told them that it was only a 3rd-hand rumor: I had no knowledge of any problem. Me authorizing them to go would be like calling in a false bomb scare. It would have to be called in by someone who KNOWS about the problem personally. If someone complains, have them call vector control at the number I provided earlier. If you call the DOH main line and talk to a receptionist you will get:
    I've already mentioned the fact that the DOH is overburdened without the funds and personnel to do what's neccessary on many levels. This is from their mouths, not just mine here. I've been there plenty of times for other matters and met with limited success at getting attention on various issues for those reasons.
    They are not the fire department. They are not HPD. They don't rush out with pesticide guns blazing when someone calls 911. That's not their job. I think you expect too much.

    I recently worked for the DOH, and know their duties and how they work. I know they are NOT underfunded or understaffed. They are funded and staffed adequately to do their job; perhaps you are expecting too much. We are not socialist - yet. Citizen action is still an important part of the process. If you expect vector control to go out and do the work to eliminate bedbugs in a private theatre or a private non-profit shelter, do you also expect ADAD (Alcohol and Drug Abuse Division) to go out and remove all the drug addicts and alcoholics from the streets?

    IT'S NOT THEIR JOB!!!!!

    It's not the job of DOH to invade private property and solve private problems. Did you think it is?

    I'm really pretty much done with this. I've gone 'above and beyond' in the interest of trying to put this to bed (dumb pun intended). If you disagree with me, I'll agree to disagree; you are entitled to your opinion, after all, and you can answer this if you like, but other than answering another 'misunderstanding,' I've drained the brain. There's nothing more to argue about. I think that everyone here has done pretty much all we can to answer your concerns, and if anything more is to be done, it is in YOUR hands, Ron.

    Either collect samples and take them up to DOH Vector Control in Halawa or have one of your 'contacts' either talk to the shelter manager about bedbug problems or go up to DOH Vector Control and report it. They WILL investigate if requested by someone with first hand knowledge, and they will recommend steps to take for eradication. That's their job.
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    Default Re: To clear up some misunderstandings....

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaonohi View Post
    [...]As I have already stated, when I called them they were ready to go, THAT DAY, to do an on-site. [...]
    I recently worked for the DOH, and know their duties and how they work.[...]
    I have a curiosity question, Kaonohi; one that doesn't involve who's right and who's wrong in this thread. Might the DOH have been willing to react so quickly because you've worked for them therefore they know you? Let's say I, a total stranger, made that call. Would the response willingness time have been the same? As I said...just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tutusue View Post
    I have a curiosity question, Kaonohi; one that doesn't involve who's right and who's wrong in this thread. Might the DOH have been willing to react so quickly because you've worked for them therefore they know you? Let's say I, a total stranger, made that call. Would the response willingness time have been the same? As I said...just curious.
    Thanks, sue-tutu, valid question.
    I don't think there's a right or wrong in this thread, and I hope I didn't make it a black/white issue - just different perspectives to problems and solutions - like I'd tell someone how to solve problems efficiently if they obviously didn't know (no, you have to PULL the refrigerator door, not push it!). But I come on impatient and strong at times, and I talk (write) too much anyway... TMI.

    I didn't work for any DOH division even remotely connected to Vector Control. The only way they know me is when I brought my collection of little black ants in for identification, and they identified them as "glaber ants." They politely gave me all the information they could about how they live and what extermination processes worked best, for which I was grateful. There was one time years ago I brought some other bugs in to be identified, which they did, but I don't even remember what they were....

    When I called re: the bedbugs I didn't even identify myself, and I don't think they would remember me anyway.

    Their job is to identify invasive animals, insects, etc., and to take appropriate action, which is usually dissemination of eradication information. Generally they prefer to have samples brought in, but they seemed willing when I called to do an on-site inspection.

    Although I have had bedbugs in my house (my teenager's room), and have suffered bites, I have never SEEN a bedbug, so it might be harder to gather samples, which may have been a factor in their willingness to do an inspection.
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    Default Re: To clear up some misunderstandings....

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaonohi View Post
    [...]
    I didn't work for any DOH division even remotely connected to Vector Control. [...]
    When I called re: the bedbugs I didn't even identify myself,
    [...]
    That explains it...thanks!

    And, no, I didn't think you made it a black or white issue. Rather, I was just stating where I was coming from.

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