Political Hall Of Shame

[Leo Lakio]

Re: Political Hall Of Shame

GROUP HUG !!!



Um...just kidding...but thank you BOTH for your peace-making efforts; they are sincere and on the right path - good examples for us all.

[Kaonohi]

Fwiw

To Leo: No, let's not engage in a game of charades. Those were my words you quoted. Those are ideas that I still believe in. And being the imperfect person that I am, I fell short of those ideals.

My take on this was more that Leo was being sensitive to your current touchiness, and didn't want to put you on the spot. I can't read his mind, so he will have to speak for himself, but after this post he may be too intimidated. I know I would be.

Frankie, we ALL fall short. It's good that you recognize and admit this, but blaming me

Kaonohi, I honestly tried to improve relations with you. But you're making this really hard.

or Leo

No, let's not engage in a game of charades.

is not going to help matters.

I see you trying to acknowledge your part in all this, but it seems tentative, and taking all your toys and going home will accomplish nothing positive.

Leo didn't impose this on you. I didn't impose this on you. Anything that happens here is a joint project, and each of us must take responsibility for their own words and stance, and errors, and accomplishments, etc.

FM? Are you with us? Or against us? HT is a community which thrives because of the cooperation of its members. can DO it!

[Frankie's Market]

Re: Fwiw

My take on this was more that Leo was being sensitive to your current touchiness, and didn't want to put you on the spot. I can't read his mind, so he will have to speak for himself, but after this post he may be too intimidated.

Leo did reply to my last post.

Frankie, we ALL fall short. It's good that you recognize and admit this, but blaming me

or Leo

is not going to help matters.

"Blaming" Leo?

FM? Are you with us? Or against us? HT is a community which thrives because of the cooperation of its members. can DO it!

Who exactly is "us"?

[Leo Lakio]

Re: Political Hall Of Shame

If I may interject with one of the many things I have learned on internet boards - when you find yourself quoting and responding to posts, line by line, multiple times in a thread, chances are good that it's time to step back, take a breather, and see if other posters will take the thread in a less heated direction.

All subtlety aside, I would like to ask both Frankie's Market & Kaonohi to just let it go. Here and now. Drop it altogether. You are both intelligent and stubborn enough that you could keep these kinds of arguments in a death-spiral for days on end. You are also intelligent enough to understand what I am asking.

Do the pono thing. Mahalo.

[1stwahine]

Re: Political Hall Of Shame

And den.

Aloha Frankie.

Aloha Leo.

Auntie Lynn

[Frankie's Market]

Re: Political Hall Of Shame

Aloha to you too, Lynn. Many mahalos.

[Kaonohi]

Re: Fwiw

Who exactly is "us"?

Frankie, "US" is the community of Hawaii Threads. All of us.

If we do things that build that community, to strengthen our bonds, we are working together.

If we snipe at each other, try to build an "I'm better than you" image, we tear our community down. Cooperation always overcomes competition.

I'm going to take Leo's advice, and back away from this, for reasons that are obvious to all. I hope that some time in the future we can try again, learn from our mistakes (me included!!!), and do better.

I believe we are all better than this.

Aloha all.

[Kaonohi]

Just Aloha

Aloha to you, Auntie Lynn.

[1stwahine]

Re: Just Aloha

Aloha to you, Auntie Lynn.

Wow! If you hadn't pointed out the fact dat I made 9,000 posts I wouldn't have known. We are an Ohana here.

Mahalo

Auntie Lynn