KGMB - KHNL - KFVE "shared services agreement"

[Ninja]

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I really like Dan, he is smooth as glass on air and especially when ad-libbing.

Does he have a background in radio? I can understand why he is so good, then.

One of the true broadcasters, in my opinion. His liveshots and ability to make it seem so easy, is a big reason I watch him.

Hawaii is fortunate to have someone of his caliber.

Dan Cooke got his start in Hawaii on radio....KKUA(690), KQMQ and KRTR.

[pumpkinboy]

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Dan Cooke got his start in Hawaii on radio....KKUA(690), KQMQ and KRTR.

Gotcha! Good info-- and it explains a lot.

[pumpkinboy]

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My thoughts exactly!

When a big hurricane like Iwa and Iniki approaches the isles, conditions are changing by the minute and there's so much uncertainty, that situation provides the true test of who viewers can turn to for delivering accurate and vital information in a coherent and concise manner. And Dan has proven that he can do all that, even under spontaneous conditions.

And keep in mind, folks. While reporters like Sharie and Justin deserve props for being certified broadcast meteorologists and their expertise should be respected,..... their credentials and personal knowledge are NOT a substitute for the information and directives coming out of the NWS forecast office during a weather crisis. The Hawaii NWS office has a team of over a dozen forecasters and hurricane specialists working with systems that gather the most comprehensive weather data in the state. So during a hurricane or storm, even the certified meteorologists on staff at the TV station needs to consult the "experts" at the NWS office in order to provide the most accurate and timely information to their audience.

So true, I was watching some "September 11th As it Happened" videos on youtube....and they show the newscasts just before and during the attacks of 911.

Matt Lauer was on air that morning and as the breaking news comes in, he was so on point, in command, controlled and just terrific with his cool, calm and collected ad libbing.

Katy Couric was good too, but in my humble opinion, Matt was better.

[Pablo]

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Frankly speaking, Guy Hagi and Dan Cooke have no need for certification papers. Over the years, they both have established reputations and credibility with viewers in this state that none of the certified meteorologists (Sharie Shima, Paul Drewes, Justin Fujioka, etc.) have been able to match. Like "Perry and Price" during islandwide blackouts or some other emergency/crisis, KGMB's weather guys are the ones locals tune into as a first choice to get information on hurricanes and other severe weather conditions. That, more than anything else, is the reason why Hagi and Cooke were retained, while Shima and Drewes were not.

Shima... Half the time you don't notice her and the other half you cringe. She seems like a very nice woman, but I don't get the confidence vibe from her. I prefer Drewes locally, and I think he would do better on either KITV or KHON. Hagi is fine, quite personable, I just don't tune in. The various weather honeys are okay for their role.

[LikaNui]

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Shima... Half the time you don't notice her and the other half you cringe. She seems like a very nice woman, but I don't get the confidence vibe from her.

Interesting. I always thought she was the best, and for a long time she was the state's only graduate meteorologist. As a lifelong sailor, weather is very important to me and I found Sharie to be the best. (I do worry about her health though, with all her frequent coughing.)

The various weather honeys are okay for their role.

I can't stand 'em. Most of them are nothing but weather readers and their segments are often full of mistakes that show they have no clue about their subject.
I used to cringe whenever Trini Kaopuiki did the KHON weather. (And so did Joe Moore, many times.)

[Kaonohi]

KGMB - KHNL - KFVE "scared servicing argument"

(Intellectual expositories deleted)
But with that said, I'm gonna tell you now. Don't expect Hawaii TV viewers to go along with a channel boycott. As long as KGMB is a CBS affiliate that carries hit programming like CSI, Survivor, college/pro football, and March Madness basketball, fans of those programs will continue to watch it. They're not likely to suddenly stop watching these shows just because disgruntled employees start picketing outside the station offices.

For better or worse, that's just the way it is.

Frainkie, I think you got us nailed. Quite astute.

We certainly love to spout justice, fairness and earned status (as opposed to imposed), but as long as we have our (variously):
CSI, football, H-Warriors, L&O, Medium and/or other distractions, we will adapt/adopt the Novus Ordo Hawaiianum.

We will survive. We WILL crumble to corporate interests. We WILL be happy, so long as they keep tossing the candy to the crowds.
Isn't that how the system works?

Isn't is nice to be a lamb?

[DaleP]

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Dan Cooke got his start in Hawaii on radio....KKUA(690), KQMQ and KRTR.

Dan is excellent and I know his radio background helps a lot.

Many years ago, I did fill-in work for a Mainland TV station. One evening they called me in at the last minute to anchor their "Evening Magazine" program. I figured it would be OK because everything was on TelePrompTer and all I had to do was read the copy for each segment and throw it to someone in the field. Thirty seconds into the broadcast, the TelePrompTer died...and to make matters worse, the assistant running over with paper copy tripped and scattered the script throughout the studio. We went to commercial and I jotted some notes on a pad. When they came back to me, I started getting signals that we were having problems with the live shots and would probably have to go to pre-produced segments on tape. I think I did everything but tap dance that evening.

Somehow, we finished the show without most of the viewers ever being any the wiser. But, the only reason I was able to get through that half-hour broadcast was because I had "working without a net" radio experience. Of course, that was before radio became just liner cards and voice tracks.

It turned out to be the most fun I ever had doing a TV program...though I don't think I'd want to do it on a nightly basis.

Some of the best TV personalities (and Dan is certainly one of them) have radio experience.

[ongre]

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Great story DaleP.
I really loved the radio business before the conglomerates got into control.
Very good discussion here today, its like a bunch of polite people sitting around, drinking coffee, talking story... My thoughts on the "shared services agreement" are that the ratings will matter less in regards to local news due to the duplication, so the stations network shows will have to pull the viewers, something that is frankly not under the control of the local affiliates... It would be smart to move back to separate news staffs when the economy improves. Also does anyone actually differentiate between the KHNL news at 10 or K5 news at 9? Identity is everything, the melting together will work only if they can create differing identities.
As far as personnel, I agree; being able to ad-lib is paramount and the young un's generally can't do it. The cute, actually beautiful, weather girl from Hilo should stay, my wife and I both like her, we have spoken... The sports Lady who can't breathe in time to her copy should either learn to breathe right or be gone... Maybe she can join a choir to learn to sing, it teaches what she needs to learn. KITV I can't stand at any time, maybe getting new writers who produce a less sensationalistic copy will help but the plumbers rule is at work here.
I hope my contribution contributes.

[foolish heart]

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DaleP great job! Great story!

[TuNnL]

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Food for thought: KHNL certified meteorologist's are canned and the one's at KGMB who are not certified are retained.

Geez, if only Guy Hagi and gang had taken an online “distance learning” course from Mississippi State U, they wouldn’t have to endure A.J.’s wrath.

[foolish heart]

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Geez, if only Guy Hagi and gang had taken an online “distance learning” course from Mississippi State U, they wouldn’t have to endure A.J.’s wrath.

Who is AJ and what is this distance learning course?

[Media Guy]

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A.J. McWhorter, a collector of film and videotape cataloging Hawaii's TV history, has worked as a producer, writer and researcher for both local and national media. His column runs on the first Monday of each month in the Star Bulletin.

Hit the link its self-explanatory. It's where most of our weather people get their "meterologist certification"

[foolish heart]

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Thanks!!!!!!

[Kalihiboy]

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Who is AJ and what is this distance learning course?

Don't know him , I never was good at math, so I'm not going to say it's easy to take those classes. I think the one's who have gone on to get their certification should be applauded, they want to learn more about their craft, not only for themselves, but their viewers as well. What's wrong with that?
But also there isn't anything wrong with not taking the classes either. Some stations brand themselves as severe weather stations, some even come out and say they have certified meterologists via graphics or voiceovers just as they come on the air.

We all have different opinions, which is great. Dan Cooke is one of the best, serious, like I said earlier if an anchor slot is open or he needs to fill-in to do news, he's ready to go. He can report, do weather, anchor, can just about do it all and he is a veteran in this business. I wish he was still doing the news and I'm glad he is back.

Aj

[pumpkinboy]

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I was wrong, investigative reporting does exist!


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