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    Mel, is there a reason you amended someone else's post with this link and your editorial comment? Personally, I feel a separate post containing the same info would've been more appropriate, regardless of the 12 hour time difference between the original post and the added link. Just my opinion...

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    I have to give Dicus credit for being amongst the few KGMB staff to continue on a regular basis to writing a blog during the busy news transition, his latest thoughts:

    http://kgmb9.com/howard/

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    KGMB News Sunrise is now simulcasting on KGMB KHNL. The newscast is being branded as "Hawaii News Now Sunrise".

    The news crew for Sunrise is mostly the same.

    The set is nice.

    They are broadcasting in HD. I don't see that because I only have analog.

    On Oceanic Cable HNL

    KFVE - is on 5

    KGMB - is on 7

    KHNL - is on 8

    Over the air it is different:

    KGMB - is on 5.1

    KFVE - is on 9.1

    KHNL - remains on 13.1

    My signal for all 3 OTA seems to be decent. No drop outs or anything. I'm in the middle of the Ala Moana area near the old KGMB TV studios. I am assuming the digital signals are now broadcasting from another location.

    How is the OTA reception of KGMB / KHNL / KFVE on the neighbor islands and other locations on Oahu?

    The online presence is at

    http://hawaiinewsnow.com which resolves to http://www.khnl.com/.

    http://kgmb9.com/ goes to http://www.khnl.com/

    I note it is kind of funny about the "Hawaii New Snow" mentioned earlier in this thread.

    A note on the simulcast:

    When you watch KGMB the bug on the corner has the KGMB logo - when you watch the simulcast on KHNL, the bug on the corner is branded with KHNL.

    They seemed to have dropped the KGMB9 monicker.

    I think no one gets their KGMB signal on Channel 9 anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mel View Post
    How is the OTA reception of KGMB / KHNL / KFVE on the neighbor islands...?
    On Molokai (Kaunakakai Townside), KGMV is still 9.1 and KHNL is still 13.1. Can't catch KFVE so I'm assuming they haven't moved them from the low-powered station on Maui.

    Keep you update on whether 9.1 here will broadcast MyNetworkTV programming or CBS.
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    Whoa. So this is what it feels like to have free time? LOL.

    The body doesn't just snap back to different times, so I still got sleepy at 7 this weekend, and woke up at 5 today. I watched Sunrise. Felt weird. They have always, and continue to put out, a great product. No ill will towards them. Still, to see them in our building with backgrounds that I recognize was... surreal.

    I'd like to clarify that any less-than-positive feelings I have, any transition I've experienced so far, has zero to do with no longer being on TV, or having a high powered career. It was neat to have, but I don't validate my worth through those things. Remember, I was consciously planning to leave next year to be a full time mom.

    For me, it has always been about the human element: the toxicity of a layoff environment, the feeling of being disrespected, neglected, abandoned, betrayed- on multiple levels, by multiple people or entities.

    Then, Olivia got up at 7 and I was able to see her! Dress her! Feed her! Hug her a zillion times and kiss her! It was so, so, so awesome. Yay! KHNL who?
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    Grins. Diane, I like the new signature, particularly the exclamation point after "Full time wife and mom!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linkmeister View Post
    Grins. Diane, I like the new signature, particularly the exclamation point after "Full time wife and mom!"
    THanks!
    Your bio is HILARIOUS. I love good writing. This kind of forum might be dangerous for me too. Must... exercise... self...control!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane Ako View Post
    I watched Sunrise. Felt weird. They have always, and continue to put out, a great product. No ill will towards them.
    Diane, when I first read this part of your post, I didn't realize that you were referring to the television broadcast, "Sunrise."

    I thought you meant that you got up to watch the sunrise this morning, and that you meant nature, regarding the producers of "a great product." I found that a very amusing perspective.

    It works, you have to admit; and it's good that you harbor "no ill will" towards nature!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo Lakio View Post
    Diane, when I first read this part of your post, I didn't realize that you were referring to the television broadcast, "Sunrise."

    I thought you meant that you got up to watch the sunrise this morning, and that you meant nature, regarding the producers of "a great product." I found that a very amusing perspective.

    It works, you have to admit; and it's good that you harbor "no ill will" towards nature!
    Funny!
    Dear Nature, You really put out a great product. Thanks for that. Keep up the good work. I harbor no ill will towards you if it were cloudy today.
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    So was it just MY TV that had an audio/video synchronization glitch? I don't have HD, but watch via digital cable and DVR'd "Sunrise" @ 4:30a and the 5a show. Wanna weigh in, either on-the-record or off? Pls. e-mail me. erika-at-starbulletin.com or gimme a call at 529-4303.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erika Engle View Post
    So was it just MY TV that had an audio/video synchronization glitch? I don't have HD, but watch via digital cable and DVR'd "Sunrise" @ 4:30a and the 5a show.
    I was watching from about 515- 545 and it looked fine to me. For non-newsies, "watching" always means channel surfing to see all newscasts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalihiboy View Post
    I have to give Dicus credit for being amongst the few KGMB staff to continue on a regular basis to writing a blog during the busy news transition, his latest thoughts:

    http://kgmb9.com/howard/

    Aj
    My previous post makes no sense since at least for now the old KGMB website is gone, looks more like the KHNL website is the main default website for all the stations involved in the merger. They should go back to the former KGMB online presence as it was fairly good. I hope for now they are just working out the early kinks, otherwise it's not too good now. If it stays the same I wouldnt go back to their website whatsoever.

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    Tee hee. I don't remember the last time I watched a single newscast all the way through in real-time, because I too, do what Diane mentioned. ^.^
    There was no way I was going to make it up at 4:30a (but then I figure that's why God made DVR/TiVO technology). I set up the DVR to record KGMB. Should have set it to record KHNL as well, for comparison's sake, but didn't think that through last night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalihiboy View Post
    My previous post makes no sense since at least for now the old KGMB website is gone, looks more like the KHNL website is the main default website for all the stations involved in the merger. They should go back to the former KGMB online presence as it was fairly good. I hope for now they are just working out the early kinks, otherwise it's not too good now. If it stays the same I wouldnt go back to their website whatsoever.

    Aj
    The hawaiinewsnow.com URL they're plugging (and which I reported on last week) AS WELL AS kgmb.com and kgmb9.com redirect to the khnl site. I'm thinking they'll do more with the hawaiinewsnow.com URL that Raycom registered on Aug. 20, two days after the SSA news conference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erika Engle View Post
    Should have set it to record KHNL as well, for comparison's sake, but didn't think that through last night.
    There is no comparison - it's the exact same, except one small bit of the lower third says "KHNL" versus "KGMB." I didn't note any audio difference either.

    And out of habit I kept going 2,4,8,9 - and then realizing 8 and 9 are now the same.

    By the way, that habit irks the heck out of my husband. On a really big news day I'd stay on a channel for 3 seconds (literally) before checking the other channels. He would give up and go to the next room. He is hoping I will give that up now that I"m a civilan. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane Ako View Post
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    Hopefully KHNL's loss is HT's gain!

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    I did notice that the sound was not very good through my analog cable TV service for KGMB (which is 7 analog). The sound was way better when I switched off the cable and went to OTA using my indoor antenna and digital converter tuner.

    Another thing is that the KHNL side is running a couple of seconds ahead of KGMB during the simulcast. And yes, as I mentioned earlier, the bugs on the bottom right hand of the screen identify whichever channel you are watching.

    CBS logo with KGMB

    NBC logo with KHNL

    No 9 or 8 with any logo. Are channel numbers irrelevant?
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    On DirecTV they have one channel that shows up to eight news or sports channels on one screen. You can toggle between any of them with the audio portion on the channel your cursor is on.

    Too bad they don't make one for local news. That would be great to watch all local networks at one time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mel View Post
    Are channel numbers irrelevant?
    Thanks for your descriptions, Mel. As for your question, unlike in radio, where frequencies have become more important than callsigns (because of digital read-outs on car radios, etc., TV channel numbers are likely irrelevant for marketing purposes now (note they're not being used in the new branding).

    Where TV channel numbers ARE relevant, is on station licenses, at the FCC, for engineering-kine reasons, and maybe others.
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    One of the few good things that have come from this merger is the end of the Severe Weather Station branding KGMB had for the last few years. I'd never reveal names, but a number of their staff I've talked to were embarrassed by that lame station branding.

    Severe Weather Station is much better suited on the mainland where I've seen that branded in the appropriate markets.

    It's really too bad Drewes and Shima were let go because I think they were the best at what they did, I would have moved Cooke back to anchoring, and Dudley to features.

    And you know why alot of people are upset by this merger, one of the main reasons to merge was to avoid a news operation from going under, well save for a few KHNL staffers retained it sure looks like one went under to me.

    A last place news station replaced by the number one news station that was running out of money and needed a roof over themselves boots out the station that had settled into its new headquarters just last December. Harsh. If you don't think that hasn't upset people then I don't know what to say. I think if we were in much better economic times and this was attempted, both stations staff would have boycotted it.

    This harkens back to 1975 when nearly the entire on-air staff at KITV was canned in favor of a new all local lineup, this is how Emme, Guanzon, Levi, Okamoto, etc. first came into the news business. Lawsuits were filed by some staff that were let go. The guys that were in their final days at the station had to train the new kids on the block and do the news while they saw the new set being constructed. Deja Vu?

    But in hindsight the 1975 changes were good in the sense that it brought more diversity into the local news business, which the end result is a much better representation of the community it serves.

    Some will rejoice I'm done with my rant and off my soapbox for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane Ako View Post
    There is no comparison - it's the exact same, except one small bit of the lower third says "KHNL" versus "KGMB." I didn't note any audio difference either.

    And out of habit I kept going 2,4,8,9 - and then realizing 8 and 9 are now the same.

    By the way, that habit irks the heck out of my husband. On a really big news day I'd stay on a channel for 3 seconds (literally) before checking the other channels. He would give up and go to the next room. He is hoping I will give that up now that I"m a civilan. LOL
    I knew the 'casts would be identical, I just meant I should have DVR'd both to see if the eight-seconds (or so) of delayed audio also would be apparent on KHNL.

    As for your husband's hopes that you'll be able to start watching as a "civilian," if you're anything like me (out of broadcast news for more than 10 years now), you might gently suggest to him that he not hold his breath.
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    Did they call it KITV back in 1975? Or was it still KHVH-TV? That was such a long time ago.

    Too bad for the locale of KGMB though. That was a landmark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by craigwatanabe View Post
    Did they call it KITV back in 1975? Or was it still KHVH-TV? That was such a long time ago.
    KHVH television became KITV during the summer of 1973. The call letter switch was in part due to a new ownership change as Bob Berger had sold the tv station (the late William F. Buckley had partial ownership) and kept the radio station as KHVH intact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalihiboy View Post
    KHVH television became KITV during the summer of 1973. The call letter switch was in part due to a new ownership change as Bob Berger had sold the tv station (the late William F. Buckley had partial ownership) and kept the radio station as KHVH intact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalihiboy View Post
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    It's really too bad Drewes and Shima were let go because I think they were the best at what they did, I would have moved Cooke back to anchoring, and Dudley to features.
    [...]
    I've been wondering about the decisions behind who was laid off. It appears to me that at KHNL the seasoned, on air vets were laid off in favor of newer, less experienced folks. Was that strictly a money decision? Keep newer people who make less and get rid of the higher salaried folks? Just curious.

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