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    Quote Originally Posted by cynsaligia View Post
    oh, i am aware of more than a handful of japanese men who'd say it does matter...*shrug*

    More? Handful? And I thought I've been around the block more than once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SusieMisajon View Post
    You CAN pee in a bidet, plus you can wash your bits after.
    Never found them to be all that as far as the clean up. Still gotta do my ritual...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
    The laziness factor towards standing is sometimes true but more to avoid having to clean up the inevetible mess, plus you have time sit and reflect on whatevers. Not enuf time for a magazine, but enuf to consider what you might like to read, and you never know when #2 may decide to enact...
    yes, and apparently, if a guy is drunk or otherwise not with complete capability, sitting is preferable to standing.

    Quote Originally Posted by craigwatanabe View Post
    More? Handful? And I thought I've been around the block more than once.
    i initially wrote that line to read "i've come across more than a handful..." but then hit deletedeletedelete after realizing how that read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigwatanabe View Post
    The same can go for women who leave the seat down and I gotta go in the middle of the night I end up peeing on the seat because it's down.

    Either way it's a problem for the other sex. In our household though with six boys and one female (wife), majority rules, it's lids up, but then again we have five toilets, one in every bedroom and one in the hallway. Since I love my wife I tend to keep our bathroom toilet in our bedroom lids down.
    Wow a toilet for each bedroom? 5 of us in our household, sometimes six if the mother in law is here and ONE bathroom, and we live in a 3BR house, not an apartment!

    As for sitting/standing, I was raised by women so I sit most of the time and don't consider it a big deal whatsoever. Even in public if a clean stall is around I'll go there I cannot stand going up to urinals and seeing piss all over the floor and having to stand in it. Yuck!!

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    Unless it's in my own private bathroom that nobody else uses, I never sit on a toilet before wiping the seat with toilet paper. So honestly the seat-up-or-down debate has never bothered me because I don't sit without looking first. Although in my own home I usually put the lid down after because I'm paranoid of dropping something in there.

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    My bf has been trying to form me into a #3 (lid down) ever since I can remember. Im a seat down lid up girl. Altho I do put the lid down when I need to access anything near the toilet, like my glasses, makeup, nail polish, etc., because it sucks to have to fish your contact lens case from the bottom of the bowl.

    I love my bf, and it makes total sense for everyone in the household to adopt the *lid down* theory, but I will never change my bathroom ways to suit him, no matter how sensible of an idea it is!!

    I did have an awfully embarassing situation once where I didnt realize that the lid was down, until.....ahem, ....well...uh, yeah. Maybe thats why I cant adopt the lid down policy.

    If Im the only girl sharing a bathroom with boys, I put the seat up for them, mostly to avoid wiping their pee off my seat.

    Heres something that was passed down to me from a friends mom 15 years ago - *A woman should never have to clean the bathroom, because a woman NEVER misses!*
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    Let the stories begin!

    I know a guy who was really pi$$ed at his wife. To retaliate, he lifted the lid and the seat, put Saran Wrap over the bowl and pulled it taut so that the clear wrap made a level surface at the top of the bowl. He then put the seat and the lid back down. He got great joy from her negative reaction when she got home from her night job and used the toilet. How immature! And, no, the marriage didn't last.

    A friend of mine was using a stall at an airport restroom. As he pointed out...guys sit down for one reason! Since he was going to be there a few minutes or more he decided to use his cell phone (can't remember if it was for calls or games). You guessed it. The cell phone ended up at the bottom of the bowl, a somewhat "full" bowl. I wanted to ask him exactly how he was sitting that a cell phone could end up in the bowl but I was afraid he'd demonstrate! Still, listening to him recount the story was hysterical!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tutusue View Post
    Let the stories begin!

    I know a guy who was really pi$$ed at his wife. To retaliate, he lifted the lid and the seat, put Saran Wrap over the bowl and pulled it taut so that the clear wrap made a level surface at the top of the bowl. He then put the seat and the lid back down. He got great joy from her negative reaction when she got home from her night job and used the toilet. How immature!
    OH MY GOD!! I actually did this back when I was in like 7th grade or so! I was intending to *gotcha!* my sister. Unfortunately, my MOM got it!! I will never forget her surprised, pi$$ed off look, and the only thing she said was *go clean it up, now!* Suddenly it wasnt so funny. She was seriously pi$$ed.
    Poor woman has the patience of a saint!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tutusue View Post
    To retaliate, he lifted the lid and the seat, put Saran Wrap over the bowl and pulled it taut so that the clear wrap made a level surface at the top of the bowl. He then put the seat and the lid back down. He got great joy from her negative reaction when she got home from her night job and used the toilet.
    Quote Originally Posted by turtlegirl View Post
    OH MY GOD!! I actually did this back when I was in like 7th grade or so!
    7th grade? Gee, you were advanced for your age! We did that same trick in college.
    And two other tricks, too.
    First, we'd completely 'paint' the toilet seat with liquid shoe polish (white or black, depending on the color of the seat). The next person who sat on it had a wonderful horseshoe-shaped imprint on their nether region.
    Second trick was pretty clever. Inside the toilet tank is a small hose that feeds the fresh water into the tank, yeah? We'd set that little hose through a small gap between the tank and the lid, pointing outward. The next person who flushed got hosed.
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    That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SusieMisajon View Post
    You CAN pee in a bidet, plus you can wash your bits after.
    OMG! I always knew the French were the only rational Europeans!

    Every WC (or bathroom, or s**tter, or whatever) needs at a minimum:
    1: A toilet for sitting and S**tting, and whatever else might happen ,
    2: A Vietnam War-style pee tube - the 'can't miss' variety and height,
    3: A bidet, Unisex, for cleaning up what needs to be cleaned.

    So civilized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigwatanabe View Post
    They do...it's called an elongated bowl...but then again I'm Japanese so it doesn't matter!
    And here I am, the resident anthropologist, and I didn't catch this till I saw Cyn's comment.

    1. Guys: Regional origin (aka 'race,' nationality, etc.,) has nothing to do with sizes of body parts. Although there may be tendencies, there are NO absolutes, and even the tendencies are largely exaggerated. Whenever you hear that "X" has "bigsmallwideshortlongetc." it's basically urban legend rhetoric, and don't mean nuthin'.

    2. Size, whether length, width or whatever don't mean much; ask the ladies who know. Experience, sensitivity, and technique learned from inter-sex communication means SO much more.

    Thanks, Cynsaligia, for the wake-up there.

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    All males could be ordered outside to pee. Gardens love it.

    Kids love this. One of mine went on a school trip to Italy and got nabbed peeing out of the window of their hotel.

    I still say installing a urinal is a good solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
    when sitting so not to be allowed to touch the inner bowl/water. I hate that!!
    I know what you mean Ron, it's a biotch sometimes when you have some Italian in your ancestry!

    I had to live with a uaifi and 2 wahines for many years. I intentionally left the seat down, not only to avoid aurguments, but I could always tell if there had been a male in the house when I returned home after work and if I found that the seat was up.

    Just out of curiosity, how many have a closed front toilet seat as opposed to an open front seat? Open front seats are all the rage in Mexico.
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    Quote Originally Posted by craigwatanabe View Post
    They do...it's called an elongated bowl...
    Again, like we Italians, all the current elongated bowls need to be more elongated!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tutusue View Post
    The cell phone ended up at the bottom of the bowl,
    Yep, uaifi had her cel phone in her jeans pocket and when she was taking down her jeans to use the facilities, (she waited too long and she was in a hurry) the phone fell into the bowl. She called me into the bathrrom to see the phone in the bottom of the bowl and asked me to get it out. I asked why the water was "colored." She said, "well I was desperate after the phone fell in the bowl!" !Oeiaue! Anyway, to make a long story short, I took the phone apart, dried it out, disinfected it, and it worked fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sophielynette View Post
    Although in my own home I usually put the lid down after because I'm paranoid of dropping something in there.

    I'm the same way, not only because of that but because I like to place my make up on top of the lid sometimes when it's time to apply it. After I shower, sometimes I'll put my clean clothes on top of the lid so I don't have to worry about people seeing me when I have visitors staying in my apt. I also tend to have to stand on my toilet bowl lid to reach things I store above the toilet bowl.

    From a feng shui point, you're supposed to leave the bathroom door closed and toilet bowl lid down to prevent the escape of chi.

    Most importantly for me, I like to make sure the bowl lid is closed before I flush, because of things like this, as explained in this ABC science article, "Flushing Out the Truth."

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbsolutChaos View Post
    From a feng shui point, you're supposed to leave the bathroom door closed and toilet bowl lid down to prevent the escape of chi.

    Most importantly for me, I like to make sure the bowl lid is closed before I flush, because of things like this, as explained in this ABC science article, "Flushing Out the Truth."
    I heard the same thing from a nurse yesterday, that flushing with the lid down prevents spraying bacteria around your bathroom.

    I guess the best solution is to keep the lid down at all times other than 'when in use.' I lower the lid when flushing as a habit cause I wake up and need to pee when my cat reminds me to (2-3 times a night), and I don't want to wake the rest of the household.

    Lid down = quieter, healthier, safer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbsolutChaos View Post
    ...you're supposed to leave the bathroom door closed and toilet bowl lid down to prevent the escape of chi.
    Chi smell bad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaonohi View Post
    I heard the same thing from a nurse yesterday, that flushing with the lid down prevents spraying bacteria around your bathroom.

    I guess the best solution is to keep the lid down at all times other than 'when in use.' I lower the lid when flushing as a habit cause I wake up and need to pee when my cat reminds me to (2-3 times a night), and I don't want to wake the rest of the household.

    Lid down = quieter, healthier, safer!

    Absolutey correct (I am a pee 2-3times a night man myself) yet agree that to lower the lid before you flush is your safest bet to avoid germs.
    Must admit that I left the lid up for 2 weeks. I was put on new pills for epilepsy and reacted against them. They caused me to throw up and so I had to dash to the toilet quite often. This seems to have passed and the 'bog' seat is back in the down position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SusieMisajon View Post
    All males could be ordered outside to pee. Gardens love it.

    Kids love this. One of mine went on a school trip to Italy and got nabbed peeing out of the window of their hotel.
    My husband tends to pee in the backyard when he takes out our dogs. I think he gets a little-kid kick out of it, but he claims it's because he doesn't have to go until he gets outside. But after polling our friends, a lot of guys do it. Never knew that!

    He tends to use the guest bathroom most of the time b/c it's closer to his office and the living room, so he leaves the seat in whatever position he last needed it to be in. I use our master bathroom the most, so it's usually in the lid-up, seat-down position. But if we have company, I always put the guest toliet lid down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surlygirly View Post
    My husband tends to pee in the backyard when he takes out our dogs. I think he gets a little-kid kick out of it, but he claims it's because he doesn't have to go until he gets outside. But after polling our friends, a lot of guys do it. Never knew that!
    I did it from a mountain peak in Yosemite long ago. I was a kid, and it was a kick!

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    Although I didn't do it when I was near anyone else, I've peed while swimming in the ocean. Didn't feel bad about it, either. After all, there's a gazillion fish in the ocean and they all pee in it.
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    That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

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    Does anyone lift their leg when they take a leak?
    Last edited by Walkoff Balk; November 8th, 2009 at 02:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walkoff Balk View Post
    Does anyone lift their leg when they take a leak?
    Just boy dogs.

    Girl dogs squat, even if they're not 'setters.'
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    That bring back a memory. When Keoni was just beginning to be toilet trained, he said to me, "Watch me, Mom, I can pee all by myself.", and promply lifted his still-clothed leg on a tree. Seems he'd been watching the dog.

    At that point, I gave up and invited a few slightly older boys to come and play for the afternoon...giving them specific instructions to show the kid how to be big like them. He learned in one afternoon, including poops. I walked in on him that evening on the toilet, and said to him, "Wow, Keoni, you're on the toilet all by yourself!?", and he relied, "Mom, please go out and shut the door.".

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