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    A post by Sharilyn in another thread jogged some memories and rather than hijack that thread..........

    I remember growing up in the 40's and 50's when life seemed a lot more simple. Maybe it wasn't, but it seemed that way.

    I grew up in one of those San Joaquin Valley farming towns similar to Modesto featured in American Grafitti. In fact, my youth was a composite of all the male characters in that movie. Perhaps it is my all time favorite movie because it is so biographical. And yes, I did marry the sweetheart character in that movie.

    I DID grow up in a house with a white picket fence. My younger brother and I both rode our bicycles to school. There were very few cars on the road. Often as a 6 or 7 year old, I would walk around downtown and no one would bother me. The community was about 5 or 6 thousand hard working, church going inhabitants.

    My parents did not have a lot of money. My mother was a stay at home mom and did the wash, did the ironing, did the cooking, and sewed our clothes. When the sons wore holes in the knees of their jeans, my mom would patch them up and we would wear them to school......just like all the other kids. Once a week it was beans and franks for supper, that would be Campbells Pork and Beans with weiners cut up in them. Since we were a Catholic family, Fridays were ALWAYS fish sticks or pancakes for supper. We were required to clean our plates (a bad habit that still sticks with me today) because of all the "starving chinamen." Afternoon snacks were often home made popsicles. Kool Aid was the drink of choice and Jello with canned fruit cocktail in it, a favorite dessert.

    We didn't have a TV, couldn't afford one. But Saturday mornings, it was always Big John and Sparky on the radio. One night a week it was Fibber McGee and Molly or the chilling Whistler or Jack Benny on the radio. My hobbies were either digging "forts" in the soft soil of the agricultural fields or building plastic model airplanes. However, in the evening it was always 2 hours of school homework with my mother providing the guidance. School was 8:30 until 2:30 or 3:00 in the afternoon. Anything but a 100% effort at school was unacceptable.

    And yes, when the future matapule misbehaved, severe corporal punishment was an accepted and expected form of discipline.

    You can never go back to the way things were, nor would I necessarily want to, but I will always be grateful for the memories.

    Anyhting you would like to share?
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    I was about 10 years after you, in S/E LA, with a single parent, and better food..., but otherwise it was much as you recounted for me as well.
    And yes, it was a better time overall in many ways, but I can only fault today's good kids and parents for not having more imagination to make life fun and interesting. We had tons of it. Where did all that go?

    We were lucky to have lived those times, we'll never see them again.

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    It was called the suburbs. When they sprouted up outside the city limits, parents had to start dropping kids off at school instead of walking them because kids had to go to schools in districts where parents worked. Going to the mom and pop stores was gone because of zoning laws, you couldn't put a store within a residential neighborhood.

    Drugs came into our society and life became complicated. Add to that our love of the automobile and suddenly friends and neighbors were gone. Television City became the calling for up and comings and life on the West Coast became a magnet and for some desperation recalled in that song, "Do You Know The Way to San Jose".

    Then some bright guy invented PONG, then the Walkman, and now we got the iPod and we evolved into creatures plugged into our own virtual reality listening to our own beat. We yearn for social connection and the Internet provided that thru forums such as HT and more elaborate social networks like Facebook and My Space. And that wasn't enough so we created virtual lifestyles with the Sims and now with Farmville on FB. We've become so detached with face to face contact unless it's via a webcam.

    Life is complicated now...to me it started with the development of the suburbs.
    Life is what you make of it...so please read the instructions carefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
    more imagination to make life fun and interesting..
    That's the KEY Ron and Craig, IMAGINATION! In my opinion, the developed societies today have lost the inventiveness to develop new ways of critical thinking to solve current and future problems. As Craig says, too much ready made entertainment today that stifles imagination.

    I hope for the best for future generations.
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    As a child of the 60's i mistakenly believed that a "troop" was 100 men, and
    when the radio would constantly repeat the dead troops in viet nam, i
    wondered how big the world must be that nobody seemed to notice.

    The narratives of mass media are deliberately designed to train a dogmatic,
    zero-sum, violent view of the world; i simply don't listen to it. I cut off
    watching TV back in the 80's and so much imagination returned. What's
    wrong with reality that we have to be in virtual reality? Pong was not as
    good as paddle tennis, but it was cheaper for the corporations than building
    tennis courts. And the corporate media today is just one giant sales pitch
    from end to end - marketing of ten thousand viral narratives that stick in
    ones subconscious concept of self, driving one towards consumer
    monoculture, and never questioning the loss of true diversity that this
    global media state is creating.

    Back before electronic technologies, you had to be in a room with someone
    to hear another human voice. Now the bombardment is ubiquitous.
    And the economic stress of the fed's inflation put everyone's earnings
    in a pinch, and 2 jobs or 3 does not make it easier to be at peace.

    What was humanity thinking when it expanded its population from 3 billions
    when i was born to 6 billions now? Everything has speeded up, from the
    speed children start pretending to be adult, to the speed of music, war
    and global messaging. But the human DNA has not changed at all. We
    need silence, nature, without a cell phone beeping up our butts; i pray
    for future generations as well.

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    I grew up during the 80's. I know this seems much too modern for this conversation, but as my friends and I have passed our 10 year reunions and nearing our 30th birthdays, there has been lots of reminiscing.

    I grew up in the suburbs and wanted nothing more than to have a field (with a creek!) nearby to play in and trees to climb. I had an incredible imagination and spent all my spare time outside. The girl next door was my best friend and we would make up the best games. My poor swingset broke from all of our misuses of it- it was a boat, a spaceship, a timemachine, an airplane, a traveling, flying circus. I didn't have a clubhouse, so we spent a lot of time trying to make our own. Some of our attempts were pretty funny, but none of them really worked. We road bikes and skated and made up the most bizarre games. My parents had gone to Hawaii on their 10th anniversary and my mom'd brought back skirts and muu-muus for my older sisters. Those were our dress up clothes!

    Yes, I was driven to school, and yes, I had strict boundaries about where I could play. But I always came up with fun, wacky ideas (like our own TV show called Kids' Advice that we pretended to host). I rarely, if ever, watched TV- we did have an Atari, though. We rarely went out for dinner or anywhere exciting. My parents would take my sisters and I to Open Houses for fun on Sundays. My sisters would fight over the phone at night, and who got to take out the car on dates. My parents didn't take any backtalk or misbehavior.

    I'd say it was definitely a simpler time.

    Can't think of anything creative this time


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    I grew up in the 70's and early 80's. We also lived in the suburbs. Dad commuted over the floating bridge (with the bulge) to Seattle, while Mom stayed at home. I was an only child. I remember I would walk to school or ride my bike most of the time, tho my first five years of school it was only a 1/2 mile walk. After I changed elemetery schools, I rode the bus when it rained or snowed, otherwise I rode my bike.

    No one ever hassled me and my mom didn't worry when I would go out & play. My best friend was the boy next door, and when I grew older, I had a big crush on his sister. I had many friends in our neighborhood and we were always playing, investigating, skateboarding, or sledding down our hill. There was a green belt behind our houses which led to many adventures. My dad built a club house behind our house which was very well used for many years as a place of refuge, secret poker games, a make out place and as a place for one of my first....*cough*...encounters with a girl.

    In 1981, my Dad bought an Apple 2+ computer, and sadly, for me, a lot of my playtime outside became playtime inside - yes I was 15 at the time, but my friends in the neighborhood were also around 15 at that time too. Thus begun my weight gain....

    Summers were filled with fun, boating, camping, swimming, sports, even work (worked for dad). It seemed so carefree and simple. We had TV's, 3 total, but we only had 6 tv stations, and we didn't get bored watching just 6.

    Crime, drugs, and the general craziness didn't seem to enter my world until Nancy Reagan spoke at a school where I lived in the 80's. I knew bad stuff was happening around the world, and even in Seattle, but it seldom affected me (tho I was once robbed in Seattle when I was 14 while my dad was at his office a few blocks away). We always had time in the day to do what we wanted.

    People seemed to have more morals too. At least in my sheltered life. People went to church on Sunday's and then had brunch afterwards. The sun always shined (ok, not really, but it seemed that way in my memories) and no one had sex on the 1st date (or the 2nd or 3rd).

    Now I know that crime, drugs & sex were more pervasive than I remember, and as I learned as the years went on about one neighbor screwing another, but that didn't affect my quality of life. I can't imagine raising kids today. Societies rules almost dictate that our kids must lead a sheltered life and as parents we need to prevent them from falling or failing at every turn. My best friend growing up has 2 tweens, there are not allowed to open the door for anyone, even if its family (the kids won't open the door for his mother or father who lives less than a mile away) if their parents are gone.

    I miss the old days.....and the simpler days.
    Expect me when you see me.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by matapule View Post
    Anyhting you would like to share?
    I'm a 69'er (as in born in 1969).

    I remember the disco and the movie Saturday Night Fever but didn't see it when it was out. Bee Gees wasn't my favorite. It was KC and the Sunshine Band. I only know John Travolta as Barbarino on Welcome Back, Kotter.

    I remember Shaun Cassidy was one-half of the Hardy Boys show (hint: based on a series of mystery books). First time I heard "Doo Ron Ron" (later found out it was a remake of an original oldies).

    I remember when soda cost about a quarter, and smaller 8-oz cans about 15 cents.

    I remember when we had Dairy Queen on Molokai, and Kamoi Movie Theater (knew the people who knew my dad and they let me sneak in to watch R-rated movies for free). Funny, back then I thought Star Wars was a horror show because the poster of Darth Vader freaked me out. I remember when the pool hall turned into a video arcade just across a supermarket known as Friendly Market Center. Spent many after-school times playing Space Invader, Pole Position, foosball, and a game called Crazy Climber.

    I remember when we had a Chinese food restaurant called Hop Inn, which was right next door to the arcade.

    I remember when life was simpler when growing up because I had my parents. They're gone now, and I'm left with the house I grew up in. Now you know why my location reads "Returned to Molokai."

    It feels weird now. Dairy Queen is now turned into Drive Inn, Kamoi Theater is gone and in its place a new post office building, and the arcade and Hop Inn no longer there (but we do have a Subway sandwich shop ... freakin' surprised me).

    The building where Mid Nite Inn remains empty (but for few vermins), but now Paddler's Inn is the place to be for dining and drinking.

    And yet for all the new and changing things that are happening on Molokai, there is something familiar about it. Can't explain it but after having been away for 20 years I thought I lost something. But being back, I found it somehow.
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    I remember a time when I could remember things! Now remembering things is getting harder to remember.
    Life is what you make of it...so please read the instructions carefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigwatanabe View Post
    I remember a time when I could remember things! Now remembering things is getting harder to remember.
    Margarita helps quite a bit! Matapule know foa real!
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    http://news.yahoo.com/telethon-jerry...163756945.html

    The Jerry Lewis telethon at Labor Day means the start of the school year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walkoff Balk View Post
    http://news.yahoo.com/telethon-jerry...163756945.html

    The Jerry Lewis telethon at Labor Day means the start of the school year.
    And now, that is gone http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_7193114.html

    It is hard to believe this thread was started over 5 years ago. So much has changed since then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Random View Post
    I'm a 69'er (as in born in 1969)............I remember when we had Dairy Queen on Molokai,
    Dayamn, Random, I spent three months at Ho'olehua, from July 67 to October, 67. I ordered saimin soup at that very Dairy Queen! It's not there anymore? Shoots! Steve Castle (Castle and Cook) had a house near H and we spent the night there! MATAPULE REMEMBER WHEN!

    and Kamoi Movie Theater (knew the people who knew my dad and they let me sneak in to watch R-rated movies for free).
    Outdoors under the stars and sit on benches, right? I saw 2 or 3 movies there, like Elvis in Blue Hawai'i. Some of our Tongan language instructors were extras in the movie. We watched movie with Tongans and got very rowdy when they were on screen. Management told us to shut up or get out. MATAPULE REMEMBER WHEN!

    They're gone now,
    You have ohana here, now, Random.

    It feels weird now. Dairy Queen is now turned into Drive Inn, Kamoi Theater is gone and in its place a new post office building, and the arcade and Hop Inn no longer there (but we do have a Subway sandwich shop ... freakin' surprised me).
    That's freakin sacrilege! Where's matapule's war club? MATAPULE REMEMBER WHEN!

    Can't explain it but after having been away for 20 years I thought I lost something. But being back, I found it somehow.
    Got room for two more, matapule and uaifi?
    Last edited by matapule; December 10th, 2009 at 03:25 PM.
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