Pat Robertson's take on Haiti

[StinkyTheGrump]

I'd like to say first that my thoughts are with those affected by this earthquake and I hope this country is able to have a quick recovery.
I was pretty amazed when I saw this video with Pat Robertson talking about the earthquake in Haiti -

http://www.kitv.com/video/22228441/index.html

This guy is a wacko. Not only is the earthquake a "blessing in disguise" (even though 100,000 people or more may be dead) but he believes that Haiti made a pact with the devil in order to drive out the French.

[Kaonohi]

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I do not often call people "kooks," but I will make an exception.

There is cause and effect, I believe, and I even believe in the so-called 'spiritual aspects' of life, because I have experienced them.

Pat Robertson, in attaching spiritual significance to the Haiti earthquake, has transported into the "woo-woo" zone.

There have been numerous, and violent, earthquakes all over the world in the past years. I have no way of gauging whether this year (past 365 days) is more prolific than any other, but it does seem so. Earthquakes in "diverse places," tsunamis, etc.

Why Haiti? Why not the Big Island? Why not Indonesia (which has had more severe quakes and tsunamis than any other place in the past two years)?

Methinks people see what they want - to fill their expectations derived from whatever they BELIEVE before the fact.

Consequently, I put no faith in TV evangelists.
I even detest putting the name 'angel' within their title:
Ev_____lists. Evangelists, minus the ange(l). I like that.

Evilists - ooohhhhh! I think that fits well!

Please, if you use that, credit me!

I hereby claim the 'first use' rights of transformation and initiation of the term "Evangelists" into the more accurate description of "Evilists."

(Hey, it's my last shot at fame!)

K

[matapule]

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I'm going to give Pat Robertson the benefit of the doubt and presume he is nothing more than a senile, doddering old fool......and proves it on national TV.

[salmoned]

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Unfortunately, he IS more than that. Spouting his nonsense on TV on a regular basis proves it. Many listeners believe his is the voice of religious reason.

[Frankie's Market]

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Unfortunately, he IS more than that. Spouting his nonsense on TV on a regular basis proves it.

Absolutely right. Robertson has had quite a history of over-zealous self-righteous psychobabble.

He once said that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's incapacitating stroke was divine retribution for withdrawing from the Gaza Strip.

In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in 2005, Robertson seemed to link the storm to abortion. About the same time, he called on the U.S. to assassinate Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

Following the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks, Robertson surmised that lack of prayer in public schools and tolerance of abortion and pornography meant that "God Almighty is lifting his protection from us."

Has Robertson finally gone too far with the Haiti remarks? Time will tell. One would hope that those CBN viewers who are sincere in their beliefs of a Christian God will come to their senses and will reconsider whatever donation they were planning to make to CBN/700 Club and instead direct it to a worthy organization (like the American Red Cross) who will provide assistance and relief to the victims of the disastrous earthquake.

[Kaonohi]

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Reminds me of Mohandas Gandhi:

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."

[Leo Lakio]

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It is sad that someone who is such a public representative of Christianity fails to behave in a manner that represents Christ's teachings. The love appears not to reside in Mr. Robertson's heart any longer, assuming it once did.

[Random]

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It is sad that someone who is such a public representative of Christianity

AFAIC, he doesn't represent my kind of Christianity.

[HawaiiMama]

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Let me first state that I am a firm Christian. I know that God allows some things to happen and prevents others, but I surely don't pretend to know why. Or when, where, what, etc. That said, I cannot understand why Pat Robertson thinks he has an "in" to know what is going on in the mind of God. You know something? One day, I know I am going to stand before God, and maybe right next to me--little ol' me, who wants to fully rely on the grace of Jesus--will be Pat Robertson. He isn't going to be up there in front, blasting his opinions. He is no more worthy of being saved than I am. And he is no more worthy of spouting off than I am--he just has the forum to do so. I'm sorry that he so often uses it to blast hateful things. Please remember that he does NOT represent all of us who claim the Christian faith. Can he not understand the suffering of fellow humans? It breaks my heart to see all these people hurting. I know that could be Los Angeles one day, so it really, really bothers me. Jesus even said, "Judge not, that you will not be judged". I don't mean by God, but by others. None of us have the right to judge why this happened, even Mr. Robertson. Let's just try to help.

[craigwatanabe]

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Amen!!

[Kaonohi]

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"A new commandment I give unto you: That ye love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
By this all men will know you are my disciples, if you have love for one another."

Jeshua-bar-Joseph, self-proclaimed 'Son of man,' ca. AD 33

[Leo Lakio]

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HawaiiMama, I am most definitely not a Christian; for that matter, I am an atheist. Yet your post was very eloquent, and represents the better side of humanity, the side that transcends individual religious differences. Thank you.

[Adri]

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and the "devil" responds to Robertson

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...ml?sc=fb&cc=fp

[Bobinator]

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Okay, I'll chime in here, cuz I know alla you are expecting it, and are just waiting to pounce on me.

First off, I'm not in total agreement with Pat Robertson's ministry or the fact that he's a billionaire who's made a lot of money from the ministry. I know he's made some prophecies that did not come true, or were off the mark. But he's a man of conviction and he speaks his heart, regardless of the outcome. That's more guts than what many Christians and just about every politician has.

However, it does not mean that everything he says does not have some truth. The fact is, Haiti did make a pact with the devil to get the French out of their country around 200 years ago. The French left. I also understand that the Dominican Republic and Haiti used to be one country. Today, the Dominican Republic is prosperous, while Haiti is the voodoo capital of the world and lives in squalor.

Similarly, New Orleans is the voodoo capital in the United States. Remember what happened there recently? Suffice it to say, more will come in the near future, and it won't be just New Orleans.

For an atheist to say the earthquake was not part of God's judgment is rather expected. After all, how can it be if they don't specifically believe in a God. But for a Christian to blast Pat Robertson is another matter. It tells me that many Christians don't know or understand the God of the Bible, and validate my words by quoting scriptures that are irrelevant to the subject matter. Meanwhile, they ignore numerous scripture that speak of holiness and the execution of God's judgment on the unrighteous. Recognizing the sins of a nation that allowed the earthquake to happen without God's intervention is not being judgmental. Recognizing the sins of a nation and calling for repentance is Godly. Otherwise, you may need to re-evaluate your Christianity.

The underlying reason there is so much angst against Pat Robertson is the unwillingness for people to acknowledge that there is a God that is responsive to the affairs of men, and that executes judgment against the unrighteous. No one wants to be held accountable for their own actions. They don't want someone greater telling them what they can and cannot do. They put themselves above God. Well... Good luck! Nothing happens without God's knowledge. Whether the earthquake was by the hand of God, or as non-Christians would say, "an act of nature", is more or less the same, because God did not intervene.

While Pat Robertson may (or may not) have been misinformed, I would venture to say that those who attack him are rather uninformed. You may call him a "kook", but you don't have any evidence to support your position either.

Okay, I'll go put on my helmet now.

[tutusue]

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Bob...your dinner's getting cold.