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    Those currents in Hilo are running at around 15 knots.
    In the past couple of minutes I'm now seeing changes in Kaneohe Bay. Water level is dropping and the stupid boats that anchored in the bay are swinging with the changes.
    Wait... now the water is coming back IN, just in the few seconds sinced I typed the stuff above!
    It's starting.
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    I'm about a half mile from the shoreline here on the East side of the Big Island just outside of Hilo. It's really a nice day

    I'd love to go down to the cliffs and snap a few pics but the police is about a block down the road denying access to that area. We're packed and ready to evacuate (been ready since 5am). So far it's very peaceful out here.

    Out where I live it's open ocean and we get a lot of big surges on rocks. At night it sounds like a constant roar of a distant jet plane. Ironically right now it's relatively quiet.
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    Wow, it's kind of chilling to read that. Stay safe everyone!

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    and now the warning is cancelled. But they still want people to stay out of the water due to the event possibly creating undertows.

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    Well, it looks like we dodged the bullet this time. No large tsunami waves as of now, just those amazing surges. I won't say it's over, as tsunami incidents happen in pulses and series. It'll be hours, if not a day or two, before we can say we're totally safe. And whether or not we get tsunami waves, the pulses cause bizarre currents that make swimming/surfing/kayaking/etc. dangerous and that will definitely last for at least a day.
    Kudos to the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center, the various emergency responders and the media for doing a fantastic job. This was like a drill, but it was real. An excellent test of how we'd do and what needs fixing and tweaking.
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    I think this event was a good lesson that hurricane kits aren't just for hurricane season and should be stocked year round. I was really grateful that I didn't have to head out on the highways and biways, waiting in long lines for food, water and gas.

    Speaking of long lines...very long lines. McDonald's and Subway, both in my Waikiki building, had lines snaking out of the building this morning. It was astounding to see. I just spoke to a young, McD's counter person and that store did NOT close, is across the street from the Ala Wai boat harbor and at street level with an entrance that faces makai. Police shut down our entire area and roamed, several times, with loud speakers announcing a mandatory evacuation...either up or out. Still, McDs didn't close. Isn't that somehow illegal to put your employees in harm's way under evacuation conditions? I told the counter guy to put in for hazard pay! That store is franchised not corporate. I wonder if corporate owned stores in the inundation zones were closed. Zippy's closed.

    Ooooh...I feel a complaint letter coming on! I would've been furious if any of those employees were my kids. None are...and I'm still furious!

    Loved experiencing Facebook under today's conditions. I heard Twitter was amazing but I'm not a Twit...ummm Tweeter...whatever!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tutusue View Post
    I think this event was a good lesson that hurricane kits aren't just for hurricane season and should be stocked year round. I was really grateful that I didn't have to head out on the highways and biways, waiting in long lines for food, water and gas.
    TTS, very good point!

    The past years' hurricane seasons (May through November) has kept most of us in Hawaii well-prepared for our other most-feared natural disaster, a Tsunami.

    I still have all the checklist items stocked up in my cabinet, so never needed to run to the store for emergency preparedness items this morning, except to the gas station to fill my car up.

    To note, I can clearly see the Ala Wai canal from my place, and around noon, it went through several speedy cycles of high and low tide levels, with a noticeable inbound/outbound current as the water flowed in and out towards the ocean. Nothing dramatic, but certainly noticeable.

    I took a video of it. I'll try and piece it together to share here later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pomai View Post
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    To note, I can clearly see the Ala Wai canal from my place, and around noon, it went through several speedy cycles of high and low tide levels, with a noticeable inbound/outbound current as the water flowed in and out towards the ocean. Nothing dramatic, but certainly noticeable.

    I took a video of it. I'll try and piece it together to share here later.
    I spent 3 hours in my daughter's unit in my building because she faces the ocean and the Ala Wai boat harbor so I could see the mouth of the canal. The tide got really weird. I was gauging it from a small corner of the boat harbor where there's normally no bottom showing. I could see the ebb and flow with the exposure of the sandy bottom then the water would cover it...then expose it...lather...rinse...repeat! I was kinda waiting for a couple of small boats to end up on high ground! Didn't happen tho'.

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    I think if there had been people in the water, we'd have had some swimming accidents, maybe fatalities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buzz1941 View Post
    I think if there had been people in the water, we'd have had some swimming accidents, maybe fatalities.
    There WAS someone in the water, right in Waikiki! A surfer! He was paddling out about 10.45am (right before D-time). It was captured by the Waikiki beach citycam, which was pointed towards the surf in the middle of Waikiki. It was shown on Hawaii News Now, where a broadcaster named Taizo called him out as a "shmuck" or "idiot" or something like that. The other news team folks were egging him after that.

    Eventually the HFD helicopter dropped in directly above this "shmuck" surfer and ORDERED him in. Which he obliged. Shmuck. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pomai View Post
    There WAS someone in the water, right in Waikiki! A surfer! He was paddling out about 10.45am (right before D-time). It was captured by the Waikiki beach citycam, which was pointed towards the surf in the middle of Waikiki.[...]
    At 11:15a, someone on Facebook started up a page: "The idiot who was swimming in Waikiki during the tsunami warning". It was mentioned on the news and now has over 4300 fans...in slightly over 5 hours!!! The shmuck touched a nerve! And, yes, I became a fan!

    ETA...Howard Dicus' take on the "shmuck"!
    Last edited by tutusue; February 27th, 2010 at 03:38 PM.

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    Who knows? The guy may make it on the Jay Leno Show.

    Quote Originally Posted by tutusue View Post
    At 11:15a, someone on Facebook started up a page: "The idiot who was swimming in Waikiki during the tsunami warning". It was mentioned on the news and now has over 4300 fans...in slightly over 5 hours!!! The shmuck touched a nerve! And, yes, I became a fan!

    ETA...Howard Dicus' take on the "shmuck"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pomai View Post
    Who knows? The guy may make it on the Jay Leno Show.
    And the guy who started the FB page will probably end up on Ellen!!!

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    I belong to a listserv where someone on the mainland posted that his cousin was surfing in the water during the warning period and got captured on camera. I wonder if that "fecalcephalic" person (man, I love me some Howard Dicus) was his cousin? Oops.

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    I filled up WaterBob...now have to use up a bathtub full of water. I guess that's a good problem to have!

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    Is today National Tsunami Day?
    What's the name of today's Tsunami?
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    I'm beginning to wonder if I'm the only one who doesn't worry about all this non-event tsunami drama.

    Although I will say it's been greater than 24 hours, and I haven't been bombarded with relief aid pleas for Chile yet. I guess humanitarians deem them less deserving.

    Besides, the "surfer schmuck" should be allowed to stay out in the ocean if he so desires. It's his life and his fun time. If he wants to drown, then that's the consequence of his choice.

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    Well, it's good to take these things seriously. Far better to take it seriously and have nothing happen than to get caught totally by surprise and be unprepared in case it did happen.

    I wouldn't mind so much if people choose to exercise their own choices and then don't endanger anyone else asking to be saved. Like the people who stayed when Katrina hit way past the warning to get out deadline and then begged for someone to come rescue them when it really happened.

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    This is not a non-event tsunami. It did happen, granted no one got hurt nor did the water level rise enough to flood inland, but if nothing was done there would be damage to boats and ships that were docked at their piers. As it stands there was enough time for those vessels to head out to open ocean to ride out the tsumami.

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    A hurricane is a no-BS trackable weather event with known disasterous conditions with ample warning and plenty of time for evacuation. Hurricanes in that region are traditionally dangerous. If someone wants to stay through that, it's still tempting the fate of Darwinism. It's almost as dumb as Harry Truman on Mt. St. Helens, but it was his choice.

    The last dozen earthquakes to hit the Pacific Rim of any sizeable magnitude didn't do much to Hawaii, if anything. If a max 13-20 ft swell rushes through, it won't stay that long. It's not like a lingering hurricane is approaching Hawaii with prolonged impact. As mentioned, with this 8.8, and the earlier mentioned higher magnitude quake, Hawaii's impact was minimal.

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    I mentioned earlier that there could be pulses of activity for another day or two. Well, it's midnight-thirty and I just got home from playing music at an oceanfront home owned by John Morgan across from the old sugar mill at his Kualoa Ranch. We got there about an hour before sunset, and when I arrived the ocean was flat inside the reef about 300 yards offshore. But moments later rocks and coral heads started popping up as the water receded. It got dry almost clear out to the reef. Two minutes later the water rushed back in, rising about 3' and submerging all the rocks and coral heads. This happened about 4 or 5 times, then stopped. About 45 minutes later the cycle started again, then stopped. An hour or so later it happened again, and that continued until I left around midnight. East to see it all under that gorgeous full moon.
    As I wrote earlier, anyone swimming or surfing or kayaking for the next couple of days is a certifiable suicidal masochist. Don't mess with Mother Ocean.
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    BJD392,

    There's really no way to compare what happened in Chile with Haiti. While the earthquake that hit Chile was stronger, it was farther from a population center and caused far fewer building collapses. I think the death toll in Haiti was up to 20,000 this long after the event; last I saw on the news Chile was at 300-400.

    Chile also has a long history of earthquake preparedness and is for most purposes a "first world" country with a functioning emergency services system and government. I would be surprised if Chile made any requests for help beyond some specialized equipment and skill sets.

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    That shouldn't matter to some of the self-proclaimed humanitarians in here that gave other people problems for their stance on Haiti; unless we're saying that those hundreds of lives are insignificant because they had more preparation. Case dismissed.

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    CNN had a feed of a camera on the guy trying to surf. He paddled for wave after wave and never caught one, then when he finally did he gooned it, and they kept playing that over & over & over...not my choice for getting in a surf movie let alone splashed all over the world news. Another camera showed water rushing into and out of Hilo Bay. Looking again at figures in the Hawaii Atlas vol. 2 for tsunami run-ups in feet, it is pretty apparent that tsunamis coming from the north are usually much bigger in Hawai'i than those coming from the south.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LikaNui View Post
    As I wrote earlier, anyone swimming or surfing or kayaking for the next couple of days is a certifiable suicidal masochist. Don't mess with Mother Ocean.
    A few of the guys from my dorm decided to go surfing late last night. These same people had been cavalier during the tsunami warning. Some people will never listen.

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