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  • #16
    Re: The March to Socialism

    It seems to me that many people who publicly say they are against "socialist" policies and that it will lead to the destruction of the US are actually happy to benefit from those socialist policies but don't want others to do so. Those people are happy to try to hide their parents' or grandparents' assets to try to qualify them for Medicaid. or like Palin "who has gone to great lengths to hype the supposed dangers of a big government takeover of American health care -- admitted over the weekend that she used to get her treatment in Canada's single-payer system."

    m/s/huffpost/20100308/cm_huffpost/490080

    Palin said "and I think now, isn't that ironic?" Ironic is not the word I would use.

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    • #17
      Re: Fighting an American takeover by Socialism

      Originally posted by TuNnL View Post
      Incidentally, I think Kucinich is one of the scant few politicians in Washington, D.C. who understands health care issues. Clearly, more than Bob.
      I would certainly hope so, TuNnL. At any rate, everyone should have the knowledge the Health Care Bill is unconstitutional, especially the way Obama's trying to get it passed. After all, what does Obama care about the Constitution?

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      • #18
        Re: The March to Socialism

        Here's a few eye-opening news articles to chew on.

        I'm suprised this first one was broadcast on CNN.

        Liar in the White House-
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5CeszhEsOk

        Health Care Trickery... Overthrow of the Constitution-
        http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=128829

        Anger at Washington-
        http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=129097

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        • #19
          Re: Fighting an American takeover by Socialism

          Originally posted by TuNnL View Post
          I'm willing to take what many call the most liberal congressman on the hill, U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich, as gospel. Listen to why Kucinich says he does NOT support the bill. Bob apparently has good company among the most liberal dem.
          So...whaddya say, now that he has changed his mind?

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          • #20
            Re: The March to Socialism

            Originally posted by Bobinator View Post
            Here's a few eye-opening news articles to chew on.

            I'm suprised this first one was broadcast on CNN.

            Liar in the White House-
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5CeszhEsOk
            Damn. And all these times I've been supporting the wrong party.

            As of now, I'm pro-Dem.
            Beijing 8-08-08 to 8-24-08

            Tiananmen Square 4-15-89 to 6-04-89

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            • #21
              Re: The March to Socialism

              Originally posted by Random View Post
              Damn. And all these times I've been supporting the wrong party.
              Well, there's yer problem! You've been supporting an American political party; that way lies madness.

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              • #22
                Re: The March to Socialism

                Originally posted by Leo Lakio View Post
                Well, there's yer problem! You've been supporting an American political party; that way lies madness.
                When I realized the full scale of madness, I became a Constitutionalist, leaning heavily towards the Libertarian Party. But how much longer does Ron Paul have? He's gettin pretty old for politics. Maybe he needs to start smokin dem cigars, like Winston Churchhill. That old geezer lived until 94, and was still serving in the House of Lords when he was 92.

                That's the holy grail- cigars and scotch

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                • #23
                  Re: The March to Socialism

                  Originally posted by Leo Lakio View Post
                  You've been supporting an American political party;
                  How about the underrated Tickle Party?
                  Let's get this party started!

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                  • #24
                    Re: Fighting an American takeover by Socialism

                    Originally posted by TuNnL View Post
                    I'm willing to take what many call the most liberal congressman on the hill, U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich, as gospel. Listen to why Kucinich says he does NOT support the bill. Bob apparently has good company among the most liberal dem. Incidentally, I think Kucinich is one of the scant few politicians in Washington, D.C. who understands health care issues. Clearly, more than Bob.
                    Originally posted by Leo Lakio View Post
                    So...whaddya say, now that he has changed his mind?
                    Frankly, Leo, I couldn’t have said it any better than Tom Hagan of Charlestown, Boston, MA.

                    © Copyright 2010 Globe Newspaper Company.

                    We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans.

                    — U.S. President Bill Clinton
                    USA TODAY, page 2A
                    11 March 1993

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                    • #25
                      Re: The March to Socialism

                      Originally posted by Leo Lakio View Post
                      Well, there's yer problem! You've been supporting an American political party; that way lies madness.
                      I guess I'll have to look for a fascist party outside.
                      Beijing 8-08-08 to 8-24-08

                      Tiananmen Square 4-15-89 to 6-04-89

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                      • #26
                        Re: The March to Socialism

                        The march 'towards' Socialism?!

                        Let's see... public tax money supporting Insurance/Bank/Automotive Companies because of their greed or stupid business actions.
                        Check. In a true capitalist democracy they should've failed and the culprits for that failure shouldn't be able to hide 'private' assets from those they 'stole' from or hurt due to their actions.

                        Trying to create a 'different' health care system to combat the greed and stupid business actions of health insurance companies? I guess so?

                        So Democratic Capitalism in it's truest form would be...
                        Do whatever you can to get yours and screw your neighbor?
                        How wonderful.
                        Life is either an adventure... or you're not doing it right!!!

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                        • #27
                          Re: The March to Socialism

                          Originally posted by Menehune Man View Post
                          The march 'towards' Socialism?!

                          Let's see... public tax money supporting Insurance/Bank/Automotive Companies because of their greed or stupid business actions.
                          Check. In a true capitalist democracy they should've failed and the culprits for that failure shouldn't be able to hide 'private' assets from those they 'stole' from or hurt due to their actions.

                          Trying to create a 'different' health care system to combat the greed and stupid business actions of health insurance companies? I guess so?

                          So Democratic Capitalism in it's truest form would be...
                          Do whatever you can to get yours and screw your neighbor?
                          How wonderful.
                          I think you're a bit misinformed and a victim of Leftist propaganda. Profit margins for insurance companies aren't nearly as high as "they" want you to think. The real culprit is the need for tort reform. The health insurance companies in Hawaii are doing fairly well, but they're the exception. If you opened up the competition to mainland providers, like what Charles Djou is suggesting, then you're bound to see prices go down.

                          It's not the greedy insurance companies. It's everyone else that's tacking on ridiculous fees and costs. Ever ask what the retail price of your medication is? Try it one day, and compare it to what you're paying into your insurance plan.

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                          • #28
                            Re: The March to Socialism

                            What's wrong with Socialism?
                            Peace, Love, and Local Grindz

                            People who form FIRM opinions with so little knowledge only pretend to be open-minded. They select their facts like food from a buffet. David R. Dow

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                            • #29
                              Re: Fighting an American takeover by Socialism

                              Originally posted by TuNnL View Post
                              Frankly, Leo, I couldn’t have said it any better than Tom Hagan of Charlestown, Boston, MA.
                              No, the bill the House is voting on today is not everything I'd like it to be. But it is something; it includes many steps I'd like to see enacted. It is progress, something sorely lacking on this front for far too many decades.

                              Is it "selling out" to be supportive of something that is short of everything one would like it to be?

                              Equal rights for women weren't completed by granting them the right to vote in 1920. Full equality for African-Americans didn't come into existence immediately with the Emancipation Proclamation, nor with the Voting Rights Act of 1964.

                              By your logic, support of these steps would have been "selling out," and it would have been better not to act at all.

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                              • #30
                                The March to Socialism - hup two, three, four!

                                The Obama admin. has twarted the latest efforts to destroy his presidency with the HC bill's success this morning and will soon be able to focus on other important issues. It's made it thru the toughest part of the road today having been passed by the House. Should be clear sailing now.
                                Of course the obstructionista's have their silly plans of a repeal and whatever else they can pull out of their nasty little bags-o-failure for this country.
                                https://www.facebook.com/Bobby-Ingan...5875444640256/

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