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    I reference Grieco and Jazzy Jeff on another thread of actors who were teamed with people who later became big stars. Grieco had Depp, and Jazzy Jeff had Will Smith. Others that I can think of are the two Destiny's Child members who are not Beyonce, the other host with Seacrest Out of A.I, and the other guy with Keanu Reeves of Bill & Ted are just a few examples. Can you think of others?

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    Sonny had Cher!

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    Would the group WHAM count with George Michael's solo career taking off?

    Ike & Tina Turner?

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    Paul Simon became more successful than Art Garfunkel.

    Yep, the other guy in the WHAM duo was Andrew Ridgely - not as successful as George Michael
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    It's an interesting thread topic, but I find your first example kind of strange. 21 Jump Street was an ensemble show. It's true that Johnny Depp was the true breakout star among a cast of previously little-known talent, but to call Richard Grieco his less-successful partner is not really in keeping with what I think the intent of your topic is. I mean, why call Grieco the less-talented former partner when you could also name Dustin Nguyen, Holly Robinson (rawr!), and Peter DeLouise, all of whom were part of the original cast, which Grieco was not? It's sorta like naming Lionel Richie as the more successful partner and five or six other Commodores as less successful.

    If I read you correctly, what we're looking for are former partners who, successful together, decided to go separate ways, or (for more irony) former partners who went separate ways because the one who was later to be far less successful dissolved the partnership.

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    A couple more:

    Kenny Loggins has been more successful than Jim Messina.

    Michael Nesmith has probably been the most successful of the four Monkees after the group split up.
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    Skeeter Davis had a hugely successful solo career after leaving behind the Davis Sisters act.

    Wynona Judd experienced a good deal of solo success after mother Naomi was forced to forced to leave the Judds act due to illness.

    Tom Hanks has largely overshadowed his Bosom Buddies co-star, Peter Scolari. Ditto Mork & Mindy co-stars Robin Williams and Pam Dawber.

    Chuck Mangione crossed over from being a respected jazz trumpeter to a pop star fluegelhornist after leaving brother Gap Magione's band.

    Cheech Marin has garnered many recognizable TV/movie roles, while most people still have trouble remembering ex-partner Chong's first name. (Tommy.)

    And speaking of "ensemble acts," how many people here remember Space Ghost actually having sidekicks? Jan, Jace, and monkey Blip were all MIA in Space Ghost Coast to Coast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scrivener View Post
    It's an interesting thread topic, but I find your first example kind of strange. 21 Jump Street was an ensemble show. It's true that Johnny Depp was the true breakout star among a cast of previously little-known talent, but to call Richard Grieco his less-successful partner is not really in keeping with what I think the intent of your topic is. I mean, why call Grieco the less-talented former partner when you could also name Dustin Nguyen, Holly Robinson (rawr!), and Peter DeLouise, all of whom were part of the original cast, which Grieco was not? It's sorta like naming Lionel Richie as the more successful partner and five or six other Commodores as less successful.
    I'm trying to remember who was more popular at the height of the show's popularity. Grieco was Batman, and Depp was Robin because Grieco got a spinoff tv series. Depp overtook Grieco after teaming with up Tim Burton. Holly Robinson was Batgirl, Dustin Nguyen was the butler, and Peter DeLouise was the police captain in the cast pecking order. Too bad Dustin Nguyen didn't become popular like Bruce Lee who played second fiddle to whoever the actor who was The Green Hornet.

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    Just thought of one. Bruce Willis became a big movie star after Moonlighting. But, Cybil Shepard had some sucess in television.
    Who's going to be more famous? Heidi or Spencer? They wrote a book about how to be famous.

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    Of the three principal actors who were in the original Star Wars movies... Mark Hamill, Carrie Fischer and Harrison Ford - Ford clearly became the most successful actor of the trio.

    After the original Star Trek series was cancelled, about the only actor to break out of the Star Trek mold was William Shatner who went on to star in several other TV shows (TJ Hooker, Rescue 911 and Boston Legal) over the years. Leonard Nimoy had some success after Trek too, most notably to me a regular role for a few seasons on Mission Impossible.

    Most of the other cast members were pretty much stuck in the Star Trek universe and all enjoyed varying degrees of success when the later Star Trek movies were made. In the 1990s Walter Koenig had a recurring role on the Babylon 5 TV series.
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    You could really have fun with this when it comes to sports and teammates I think....

    You can say Penny Marshall has been more successful than Cindy Williams.

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    A more talented and/or charismatic performer coming to the fore ahead of an ensemble group has happened countless times. (Jennifer Aniston of Friends, Michael J. Fox of Family Ties, Michael of the Jackson 5, etc. etc. etc.) OTOH, the phenomenom of one member of a duo becoming a superstar while the other person languishes doesn't happen quite as often.

    Over the years, Robert Vaughn has had much more visibility than David McCallum, his co-star on The Man from U.N.C.L.E. Ditto that of Martin Milner maintaining a higher profile than Route 66 co-star George Maharis. Both of these situations are ironic, given that McCallum and Maharis had a lot more media attention and fan mail than their respective partners when those TV shows were on the air.

    On the musical front, Bill Medley had marginally more success than fellow Righteous Brother Bobby Hatfield as solo artists. But once again, I find that ironic given that the biggest selling Righteous Brothers record ever (Unchained Melody) features Hatfield singing all by himself.

    And while the recently deceased Robert Culp has had a more than respectable career in show biz, his accomplishments simply pale in comparison to I Spy co-star Bill Cosby.

    Square Pegs didn't last long. But it offers another example of an equally-billed duo (Sarah Jessica Parker and Amy Linker) whose entertainment careers went in opposite directions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scrivener View Post
    If I read you correctly, what we're looking for are former partners who, successful together, decided to go separate ways, or (for more irony) former partners who went separate ways because the one who was later to be far less successful dissolved the partnership.
    How could we forget Dean Martin & Jerry Lewis? Very successful together - even more successful as individual acts.
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    Michael Nesmith has probably been the most successful of the four Monkees after the group split up.
    Very much so, at least when it comes to finances.
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    Skeeter Davis had a hugely successful solo career after leaving behind the Davis Sisters act.
    Ooh, very good one - and it reminded me that Dolly Parton was certainly more successful than Porter Wagoner after they split their act.
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    And speaking of "ensemble acts," how many people here remember Space Ghost actually having sidekicks? Jan, Jace, and monkey Blip were all MIA in Space Ghost Coast to Coast.
    They did show up in two episodes, but usually as painful reminders of his past. In "Lawsuit," the twins employ Dr. Nightmare as their attorney. Space Ghost hires attorney Greta Van Susteren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie's Market View Post
    A more talented and/or charismatic performer coming to the fore ahead of an ensemble group has happened countless times. (Jennifer Aniston of Friends, Michael J. Fox of Family Ties, Michael of the Jackson 5, etc. etc. etc.) OTOH, the phenomenom of one member of a duo becoming a superstar while the other person languishes doesn't happen quite as often.Over the years, Robert Vaughn has had much more visibility than David McCallum, his co-star on The Man from U.N.C.L.E. Ditto that of Martin Milner maintaining a higher profile than Route 66 co-star George Maharis. Both of these situations are ironic, given that McCallum and Maharis had a lot more media attention and fan mail than their respective partners when those TV shows were on the air.

    I'd question any of the FRIENDS having much success after the series ended, Courtney Cox is the only one who actually has a steady gig right now? Hasnt the only hit movie Jennifer Aniston been in is MARLEY & ME and the movie was about a dog instead of her? Maybe that is why it was so successful, despite her.

    Another show, SEINFELD has any of the cast had much success after the series went off the air? Most of the CHEERS gang seems to have hit a rut too.



    Don't forget McCallum is on a hit series right now with NCIS, but I get what you mean. I understand Vaughn has a hit series overseas right now or did quite recently.


    How about Pierce Bronsan having a pretty big movie career with James Bond and his co-star from REMINGTON STEELE, Stephanie Zimbalist fading into oblivion after the network Movie of the Week's were replaced by reality programs? I think this is a major reason why you don't see tv stars of the past on television anymore, because of a lack of scripted shows and movies.

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    Speaking of Nesmith didnt his mother invite whiteout?

    How about Goldie Hawn and Lily Tomlin's careers taking off after they departed LAUGH IN?

    Carol Burnett after the GARY MOORE SHOW ended....

    Regis Philbin being Joey Bishop's sidekick on his talk show....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalihiboy View Post
    Most of the CHEERS gang seems to have hit a rut too.
    Kelsey Grammer kept his character of Frasier Crane going for several more years on the spin-off series Frasier. Of course this past year he tried another series and I think it flopped after 3 episodes.

    Woody Harrelson has had some success on big screen movies, none of which I probably saw.

    And Kirstie Alley had a somewhat successful run in another series called Veronica's Closet. I think now she is doing either a weight loss TV series or commercials...

    Well none of these cast members enjoyed phenomenal success after Cheers closed its doors.

    At least I think that says more than the cast of Seinfeld...I think only Jerry Seinfeld has some success doing his comedy show in Vegas from time to time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mel View Post
    After the original Star Trek series was cancelled, about the only actor to break out of the Star Trek mold was William Shatner who went on to star in several other TV shows (TJ Hooker,
    The supporting cast had Heather Locklear and Adrian Zemed. Heather Locklear became Heather be thy name.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kalihiboy View Post
    I'd question any of the FRIENDS having much success after the series ended, Courtney Cox is the only one who actually has a steady gig right now? Hasnt the only hit movie Jennifer Aniston been in is MARLEY & ME and the movie was about a dog instead of her? Maybe that is why it was so successful, despite her.
    http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/matthew-per...ne-panel--1440

    An update on the Friends cast.
    It seems like Jennifer Aniston, Sandra Bullock, or Kate Hudson have been in every romantic comedy movie in the past few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalihiboy View Post
    I'd question any of the FRIENDS having much success after the series ended, Courtney Cox is the only one who actually has a steady gig right now? Hasnt the only hit movie Jennifer Aniston been in is MARLEY & ME and the movie was about a dog instead of her? Maybe that is why it was so successful, despite her. [...]
    Au contraire! Actors can and are extremely successful without steady gigs. Jennifer Aniston is one of those!

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    My dislike for both the FRIENDS and SEINFELD shows come out in my posts. I watched both shows a few times and just could not get into them. I did like Julia Louis Dreyfus, hope I'm spelling her name right when she was on SNL and Michael Richards when he was on FRIDAYS.

    Sorry, I dont get the appeal of Aniston other than the fact she is good looking.

    I digress, back on topic you can say that Donny Osmond's career took off after he left the Osmonds group, yet he will always be known as part of the Donny & Marie duo....

    Justin Timberlake since leaving N'SYNCH hashad a huge career....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalihiboy View Post
    My dislike for both the FRIENDS and SEINFELD shows come out in my posts. I watched both shows a few times and just could not get into them.[...]
    Like you, I didn't follow either show even tho' I worked with Jerry during the heyday of Seinfeld. That man is innately funny and such a nice guy. We (the crew) laughed so hard thruout most of the shoot that I shoulda bought stock in Depends! Truly a memorable job for all the right reasons. Both Aniston and Seinfeld have been financially successful whether it's in front of the camera or behind it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_Lowery View Post
    Iz post-Makaha Sons.
    Speaking of Iz - I walked into the lab the other day and my students (who like to put up 'new' music to see if I know who it is) had Over the Rainbow playing.

    More on topic - Julia Louise Dreyfus has enjoyed some success after Seinfeld with The New Adventures of Old Christine.

    Then there is the sister duo of Melissa and Sarah Gilbert. Melissa hasn't done much since Little House on the Prairie, while Sarah has had decent roles on Rosanne, ER and Big Bang Theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalihiboy View Post
    I'd question any of the FRIENDS having much success after the series ended, Courtney Cox is the only one who actually has a steady gig right now? Hasnt the only hit movie Jennifer Aniston been in is MARLEY & ME and the movie was about a dog instead of her? Maybe that is why it was so successful, despite her.
    I'll just say that Aniston was ranked #26 in Forbes' 100 most powerful celebrities. None of the other cast member of Friends (not even Cox) made that list.

    And while it's true that Aniston has been involved in some box office duds, those failures and disappointments are magnified due to her high profile and the media scrutiny that accompanies it. In the meantime, the other Friends actors who put out some truly dreadful movies (Matt LeBlanc's Ed, to name just one) didn't get anywhere near the attention that Aniston's weaker efforts received.

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    Don't forget McCallum is on a hit series right now with NCIS, but I get what you mean.
    Actually, I'm well aware of McCallum being on NCIS..... in a supporting role. And if he didn't have the good fortune on hooking onto that successful series, his career would have been largely that of a perennial TV guest star/character actor and voiceover work. But Vaughn had much more meatier and memorable roles as either a leading man or the villain. And in my book, that elevates Vaughn way above that of McCallum.

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    Iz post-Makaha Sons.
    At least the Makaha Sons were able to adapt and soldier on after Iz departed. The same can't be said for the Hawaiian Style Band, when Sistah Robi left.

    Jake Shimabukuro has gone on to far greater local and international recognition as a solo artist, as compared to the time spent in groups like Pure Heart and Colon.

    My significant other mentions C&K. No doubt Henry Kapono has been much more prolific as a solo artist compared to Cecilio Rodriguez. But even the best of Kapono's solo work absolutely pales in comparison to the magic and chemistry that the duo had when they worked together full-time.
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    I think it's safe to say that one Beamer Brother has had a more ... let's call it, "enduring" ... career than the other. Which is a shame, because the other is also very talented, and it's sad that the two brothers have been estranged for so long.

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    John Travolta left the sweathogs behind in Welcome Back Kotter.
    Leonardo Dicaprio felt like he was in an inception in Growing Pains.
    George Clooney surge ahead of a talented cast of ER.

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