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    Fixed News reported a completely false story about absentee ballots in Chicago. They have been caught over and over again deliberately falsifying the news, whether reporting a miscreant Republican legislator as a Democrat or using footage of a different rally to support the attendance at a conservative rally. People deserve the news they choose to watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matapule View Post
    Fixed News reported a completely false story about absentee ballots in Chicago. They have been caught over and over again deliberately falsifying the news, whether reporting a miscreant Republican legislator as a Democrat or using footage of a different rally to support the attendance at a conservative rally. People deserve the news they choose to watch.
    What we don't deserve is the ill effects a lying media source creates. We see that effect now as a really really angry partisan portion of America devoid of facts wants all incumbents who've even looked at a Dem out and replaced by people that have to deny being witches and don't have even basic political knowlege. Fortunately, this November won't be one to remember for them, as they once were so sure of.
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    I have a Facebook friend, actually a high school classmate I used to be in lust with , who is a teacrapper and fixated on Fox News. His rants became so vile and incessant that I finally had to hide him! Other FB classmates have done the same thing. I've also received over 300 emails from him with the same crap. And this after I explained, early on, that I respectfully disagreed with him and honored the fact that he was entitled to his opinion. And, I expected the same from him. He didn't care and kept the crap coming insinuating I was an uncaring mother and grandmother for having voted for Obama! He's now filtered to the trash...after I had my less than respectful and well deserved say in email! What an embarrassing segment of society those teacrappers are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tutusue View Post
    What an embarrassing segment of society those teacrappers are.
    Tutu, I don't want to get too far off topic here, but I have a similar experience.

    My uncle was like an older brother to me when I was very young. He married a woman who I adored. They are both in their mid 70's now and avid Baggers. They are on the organizing committee in their community. They are big fans of Beck and BOR and Limbarf and the only "news" they watch is Faux News. About 2 years ago I started getting spam email from them about the TeaBag movement. I asked them if they were in favor of government handouts and they said absolutely not. I asked them if they were going to give up their SocSec and Medicare. They said absolutely not, they couldn't survive without those programs. I told them I had trouble understanding those contradictory positions. I started to counter their emails with an alternative view. They said they weren't interested in my opinion and to not email them again. We are estranged at this time and I am heartbroken. Some of their children (my cousins) have told me they think their parents have lost their mind. The last time I saw them was last March at my father's funeral. They wouldn't speak to me.

    It's a dam shame!
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    Discounting both biases of Fox and Huffington (who can be considered the Fox News of the left), the official justice.gov website has the list of each state's law regarding felons and voting practices.

    Unfortunately, all 50 states have some difference to them.

    The state in question (Illinois) makes it quite clear on their State Voter Registration form R-19:
    FOR ILLINOIS RESIDENTS ONLY
    TO VOTE YOU MUST:
    Be a United States citizen

    Be at least 18 years old

    Live in your election precinct at least 30 days

    Not be convicted and in jail

    Not claim the right to vote anywhere else

    According to the Illinois voter information pamphlets, there is no distinction between misdemeanor or felony, merely the fact you have been convicted and currently serving jail/prison time. So if that's the case, you don't get to vote.

    However, also found in their voter instruction:

    "Voters who are confined or detained in a jail or prison pending a trial are not disqualified from voting. Such confinement or detention is a specified reason for absentee voting."

    At this point, at least the state will consider the "innocent until proven guilty" notion, which I consider to be a good thing. Conversely, I hold punishments of felons to a higher standard than those convicted of misdemeanors. A lot of misdemeanors, while still crimes, can be very petty in nature. My personal belief is a felon should NOT vote, while one convicted of a misdemeanor (and it pains me knowing I have to lump the pettiest of crimes in with something heinous like a DUI) should still retain voting privileges.


    Other tidbits:
    In CA, you can't vote if you are a convicted felon, or are on parole as a convicted felon. But once your parole is up and/or are on probation, you can. In this case, the voter verbage actually distinguishes between a misdemeanor inmate, and grants that inmate voting privileges.

    Hawaii (831-2) is similar with respect to their thoughts on felons. They also distinguish between "awaiting trial" and even if the case was dismissed.

    Where Fox News' perception error came into play is making an apples to oranges comparison between the amount of delay (and unfortunately a lot of states were slow on this) towards overseas absentee balloting, and the perceived view of some official going to a jail to drop off ballots. We can't discount the fact that denying overseas military members an absentee ballot and a vote is a travesty, but frankly that's a separate issue. Unfortunately, Huffington only defends Cook County, and sheepishly defends the handful of others, playing off that being 2 weeks late is still "acceptable" (which in priniciple is not). If HP wanted to be a little more respectable in their article, they should have broadened a horizon and shown how absentee balloting is faulted, and how the incarcerated voting system works, and less time poking at a rival news station like a bratty sibling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjd392 View Post
    Unfortunately, Huffington only defends Cook County, and sheepishly defends the handful of others, playing off that being 2 weeks late is still "acceptable" (which in priniciple is not).


    BJD, did you even read the HuffPost article?

    "It is true, as he (Doocy of Fixed News) says leading off the segment, that 35 counties were, to some degree, late in send (sic) out absentee ballots to military personnel.
    Cook County was not one of them. In fact, according to a press release from the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners, Cook County overseas ballots were sent out by September 3, more than two weeks ahead of the federal deadline."

    I don't know how you jump to the conclusion that reporting the truth is somehow defending someone.

    If HP wanted to be a little more respectable in their article, they should have broadened a horizon and shown how absentee balloting is faulted, and how the incarcerated voting system works, and less time poking at a rival news station like a bratty sibling.
    BJD, your post is the classic example of, "if you don't like the message, then attack the messenger." That doesn't change the fact that Faux News lied and manipulated the story as being "fair and balanced." Why didn't Faux News broaden their horizon and show how the incarcerated voting system works and less time manufacturing "news?"

    People deserve the "news" they watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matapule View Post

    BJD, did you even read the HuffPost article?
    Did you read your own article? Refer to the paragraph after the one you quoted. HP focuses on Cook County, which did nothing wrong. However, it also mentions another county (St. Clair) who indeed busted a deadline. The impression of this makes it looks as though it's ok... it's only a federal mandate.

    Secondly, after reading BOTH articles, they both have their own skewed versions of truths and lies. Nowhere did I defend Fox News' article. It was atrocious to bring some schmuck from Washington to comment on what Chicago is doing. But as far as one jumping to conclusions, it only appears you read the last 2 sentences of my post, and not any of the information the reiterates Quinn Hillyer being a complete moron. But we all seem to be in a business of attacking messengers around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjd392 View Post
    Did you read your own article? Refer to the paragraph after the one you quoted. HP focuses on Cook County, which did nothing wrong. However, it also mentions another county (St. Clair) who indeed busted a deadline. The impression of this makes it looks as though it's ok... it's only a federal mandate.

    BJD, how are we not communicating? Faux "News" report was specifically about fraud in Cook County which indeed sent their ballots out 2 weeks before the Federal deadline.

    Faux "News" said nothing about St. Clair County. It was HuffPost who reported that St. Clair County was late, and nowhere in their report did they condone that. I don't know how you could get that impression, I certainly didn't. In fact Clair County election officials should be investigated. The number of military personnel who received late ballots was 10 (which is 10 too many) but not the "thousands" reported by Faux.

    Secondly, after reading BOTH articles, they both have their own skewed versions of truths and lies.

    You have yet to point out where HuffPost lied. In fact they clarified the news that Faux "News" skewed by pointing out that St. Clair County (not mentioned by Faux) was in fact in violation of Federal guidelines but not Cook County. It appears that Faux "News" is trying to skew all of us and that you apparently agree: "It was atrocious to bring some schmuck from Washington to comment on what Chicago is doing."
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    why does anyone watch Fox News? it must be for the entertainment value and comedic content. It can't possibly be for a desire to become informed.
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    I just want to know why Fox News is on in every Jiffy Lube in the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buzz1941 View Post
    I just want to know why Fox News is on in every Jiffy Lube in the country.
    Slickness abounden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buzz1941 View Post
    I just want to know why Fox News is on in every Jiffy Lube in the country.
    Jiffy Lube is owned by Rupert Murdoch? Roger Ailes? Rev. Moon? Glenn Beck? The Mormon Church?
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    Faux News is a current joke in the US of A.

    But where do you get "honest unbiased news?"

    Other than NPR, thaT IS - OR are they crooked, too? Enlighten me?

    I don't know of ANY other unbiased news source! Why pick on FauX?????

    What news source is honest and unbiased??? Answer me?!

    Or are you just a bunch of fag-loving, new RESTRICTIVE-laws loving, desired to be repressed liberal commie victims?

    Well, I'm a LibertariaN. i LOVE FAGS. I hate people telling me whaT i CAN OR CAN'T DO, HOWEVER.

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    sorry K - I just don't buy that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaonohi View Post
    What news source is honest and unbiased??? Answer me?!
    Okay, here's your answer but only YOU can enlighten yourself.

    Every and any news source can make an honest mistake. There is a difference between an honest mistake and manipulating the news. Faux "news" has made an effort to consistently miis-report the news as a matter of corporate policy.

    Since any news source can make a mistake (as opposed to intentional bias), I read a number of news sources on line. If one makes a mistake, it will be quickly reported by another.

    Well, I'm a LibertariaN. i LOVE FAGS. I hate people telling me whaT i CAN OR CAN'T DO, HOWEVER.
    You can't use all caps. You hate Ryan because of that?

    Your approach is that of Anarchy, - no rules, no order, no one in charge, total chaos, and filled with hate. I suppose that you might enjoy living in a world like that but matapule would drink a cup of hemlock if it were to come to that.
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    I love it when people say that anarchy would be a better solution than the order and laws of society.

    Anarchy means that I get to be in charge.
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    http://www.aolnews.com/politics/arti...iends/19690268

    Loosely related to this thread.

    I been saying all along that the left thrives on victimization, abuse, and suspicion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timkona View Post
    Loosely related to this thread.
    Not even close. Why do you want to change the subject when Fixed 'news" gets caught with their pants down.

    [/quote]I been saying all along that the left thrives on victimization, abuse, and suspicion.[/quote]

    And I suppose that you will continue to say that, which is your perfect right.
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    Yeah Mata, I was gonna start a new thread. If admin changes it, that would be fine.

    But I would say that in this thread everybody is bashing Fox, as well as other news sources, about their deceit, but I see no specific examples.

    Kinda like accusing somebody of a crime without any evidence.

    Wheres the evidence? Anybody? Fox, CNN, MSNBC, wherever.

    I would also submit that without victims, or less fortunates, the left side of politics loses the keystone of their platform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timkona View Post
    But I would say that in this thread everybody is bashing Fox, as well as other news sources, about their deceit, but I see no specific examples.
    BIG SIGH Tim, Tim, Tim, click on the link "false story" in my first post in this thread for a specific example. Whassup big guy? Computer challenged?
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    Quote Originally Posted by timkona View Post
    But I would say that in this thread everybody is bashing Fox, as well as other news sources, about their deceit, but I see no specific examples.

    Kinda like accusing somebody of a crime without any evidence.
    My feelings exactly.
    What 'news' source is not being deceitful???????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaonohi View Post
    What 'news' source is not being deceitful???????
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    Any news source that goes on air and issues a retraction when they get a story wrong. Fixed "news" does not do that.

    Their whole point is to broadcast a false or misleading story and after proven false, just leave it out there. Currently they are running with the story that Obama's trip to India is costing $200M a day. That is FALSE! The whole war in the Middle East doesn't cost $200M a day. They got their story from a newspaper in India by an unidenitfied source. Faux "news" is the "liar, liar, pants on fire" network. The military says they are not sending 23 warships to India to protect Obama. Fixed "news" still insists they are! BS!
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    Fraud should be prosecuted. Fox should be prosecuted. While the Democrats still have the power to do it they should pass a bill stripping Rupert Murdoch of his American citizenship, making Fox ownership of its TV stations impossible. There is no reason why this entire country should be driven into the ditch by fraud. It has never been protected free speech. A lie is a lie, it goes far beyond making a few innocent mistakes, it is lying and it needs to be prosecuted just like you would for health cigarettes that cure cancer or investment scams or any other fraud.

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    http://articles.cnn.com/2011-07-04/t...ers?_s=PM:TECH

    Weiner made that hacker excuse too.

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    Notice even CNN characterizing Keith Olberman as "firebrand" liberal commentator. He is liberal, but if "firebrand" can be used to accurately describe him, it should also be used to describe Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman, Sean Hannity, etc AD NAUSEM, too. Funny that merely calling out the truth against conservative Republican liars and thieves somehow makes you "liberal" and a "firebrand", and that is from what is considered a somewhat lefty news source, yet another campaigner for the Republican Party, CNN.

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