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    Default F-ing with my thread titles

    What's the trip?

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    Just curious (since I have nothing constructive to say about this issue), but which threads are you talking about? With all due respect, you have a tendency to create threads with titles that don't make sense or aren't well considered.

    Examples:
    Olbermann for Connecticut's US Senate!
    - Really? Connecticut has its own US Senate?

    Abercrombie per Homeless
    - I've read this thread title a million times and don't know what it's supposed to mean.

    '11 Pro Bowl - anbody care?
    - I understand that not everybody cares about spelling as much as I do, but did you even double check before you submitted?

    And that's just this month. I don't speak for the board administrator or its moderators, but you have a fondness for creating threads with titles that don't make sense to the reader until he or she actually clicks on it, meaning I have to read your initial posts before I know what they're about. That's not worth it to me, most of the time, so I actually appreciate it sometimes when moderators retitle threads in more meaningful ways.

    That said, I've had some of my own threads retitled, and it's driven me crazy, especially when they've been retitled in grammatically incorrect English. Hey, my name is on that thread; please don't make me look like I don't know the language.

    I've found it's best just to let it roll. You're going to have threads retitled. It makes more sense to complain about individual titles if you have specific complaints rather than to complain in general about the board policy which has been in place for seven years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scrivener View Post
    you have a tendency to create threads with titles that don't make sense or aren't well considered.
    Examples:
    Olbermann for Connecticut's US Senate!
    - Really? Connecticut has its own US Senate?
    Abercrombie per Homeless
    - I've read this thread title a million times and don't know what it's supposed to mean.
    '11 Pro Bowl - anbody care?
    - I understand that not everybody cares about spelling as much as I do, but did you even double check before you submitted?
    I've found it's best just to let it roll. You're going to have threads retitled.
    Thank you for helping to make my case. That's not my Olbermann title, that's the mod's elongated version. Mine was consise and as descriptive as can fit in the alotted space - Olbermann 4 Conn. Senate!

    Abercrombie - what else should it have been? It's about Neil and the homeless! That says enuf to tell you if it's a subject you're interested in.

    Pro Bowl - I always dbl. or tri check my stuff, but sometimes even the great me can F-up, sorry. I'm usually doing many things together while I'm on HT, plus I, like most, often tend to see/hear what I wish it were no matter how wrong, which is why eye witness testimony is basically unreliable.

    I've repeatedly requested the threads be removed instead of messing with the titles, but no. It's now stradling the border of obnoxious obsession-land when considering there was no need to change them, they were fine.
    Last edited by Ron Whitfield; January 25th, 2011 at 08:31 AM.

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    It's how the Mods earn their big bucks ... oh, wait ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
    Abercrombie - what else should it have been? It's about Neil and the homeless! That says enuf to tell you if it's a subject you're interested in.
    I guess I just don't know what "per" means in this case. What were some of the other threads that got retitled?
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    I don't retain spent fuel, it's gone, but there have been too many.
    I can appreciate donated time and effort to make forums better, but the line of common sense is being crossed here, it's becoming anal.

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    A couple of my thread titles have been changed in the past too, and usually I didn't have an issue about it. I did once, but it was too manini a problem to bother complaining.
    And actually, I made a typo in the title of the RIP Jack LaLanne thread. I posted a followup asking a moderator to fix it, which they quickly did. Don't know which moderator did it, but thanks to whomever it was!
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    That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

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    Isn't this the title of a tv series starring Capt. Kirk? Isn't that tv series based on a guy's blog.

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    In before someone makes it a different thread title!
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    Helen and I both rename threads, though I'm especially grateful to Helen lately, as I've not been able to spend as much time here as I'd like. We definitely don't want to make things worse (which I'm sure we've done more than once), but yes, we will often change thread titles to be simple and succinct.

    The threads titles are therefore often less clever and fun, and if overdone, probably makes a scan of latest threads as interesting as a card catalog.

    Why? Helping regulars like scrivener know what the topic is without having to puzzle through a post or two is certainly part of it. But the main reasons are:

    1. To make it easier for people to search for threads on a given topic to reference it in a separate discussion, or to prevent them from starting a new, duplicate one. A thread on Barack Obama's State of the Union speech titled "The Big Guy's Big Talk" is quite likely to leave us with another thread on the same topic.
    2. To make it easier for Google to index and characterize the conversations on this site. "Justin Bieber Vacation in Hawaii" is definitely much less interesting and fun than "Little B Lives it Up in Paradise", but it's meaningless without context. HawaiiThreads attracts the experts and posters it does (and the traffic it does) in part because it's a decently organized five-year-old repository of what's going on in Hawaii. Or of the popular history of Hawaii. The periodic arrivals of Crater Festival fans and musicians being one "long-tail" example.

    The longer this site manages to survive, the more important I think it is that people easily find what they're looking for.

    I generally try not to rename a thread title until there's been a reply, so that the original thread title is at least retained within the post as a subject line. And speaking for myself, I'll at least try harder to retain more of the character of the original title when I do change them. I'll ask Helen to do the same.

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    As an example of what I tried to do to retain the character of a thread title:

    1. Olbermann 4 Conn. Senate! - original title - from this, one could get the impression that this might deal with the State Senate in Connecticut as well as the Connecticut's seat in the US Senate
    2. Olbermann for US Senate (Connecticut)! - First choice, but felt this didn't look right
    3. Olbermann for Connecticut's US Senate! - I thought this one was better until scrivener pointed out that this might infer that Connecticut has its own US Senate
    4. Olbermann for US Senate! - Current thread title

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    But, but, but.....thiking up the title is the best part of posting a new thread! It's the 'ad campaign', the 'jingle', the 'bait'!

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    I couldn't ask for a better resolution than provided for by these last three replys, thanx.

    Concluding on SM's thot, restructuring the title takes away whatever personality is behind the 'bait' and turns it generic, taking away the last remaning bit of human touch behind the black and white print on the screen. That's worse than the lack of an easier search, which are all too fruitless/often any way.

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    Maybe the Mods could simply ask the thread-starter if they could change the title for clarification purposes, before doing so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
    Concluding on SM's thot, restructuring the title takes away whatever personality is behind the 'bait' and turns it generic, taking away the last remaning bit of human touch behind the black and white print on the screen.
    I must wholeheartedly disagree. You could remove many people's names from the posts (including yours!) and easily tell without looking at the thread title who the author was. There is tons of personality in the actual writing of the posts; would you not agree?

    That's worse than the lack of an easier search, which are all too fruitless/often any way.
    Perhaps it seems that way to you, but as someone trying to earn a small amount of income from web traffic that often gets directed by search engines, I have to say this is not true. We get a lot of freedom here to express ourselves the way we want about nearly any topic, so I think that one concession is worth it.

    Search-engine clicks from visitors may not be useful to you, but they can be to the owner of the website. I make just over six bucks per month on one of my sites, a figure I'm satisfied with (a few more sites like that and I can cover my monthly hosting bill), and if people can find it more easily, that figure could go up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scrivener View Post
    1) You could remove many people's names from the posts (including yours!) and easily tell without looking at the thread title who the author was.

    2) There is tons of personality in the actual writing of the posts; would you not agree?
    1) It sounds like you agree with my contention that personality in a TT has merit, of course providing it's the original title/unmodded.

    2) Sure, which is why I left it out of the equation.

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    Sure, I agree that there can be some personality in the thread titles, but you said
    taking away the last remaning bit of human touch behind the black and white print on the screen.
    (emphasis mine). I'm saying that that's just a small bit of the personality in the content. You called the title the "remaining bit of human touch," which is what I was wholeheartedly disagreeing with.
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    OK, we can cool our jets on the issue, it's covered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo Lakio View Post
    Maybe the Mods could simply ask the thread-starter if they could change the title for clarification purposes, before doing so?
    Speaking for myself and based on experience, the short answer to this is no.

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    Scriv, you seem to be forgetting that Ron usually just writes the title and pastes a link in the body. So, in many of his new threads, there is no further human touch by him beyond the title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by salmoned View Post
    Ron usually just writes the title and pastes a link in the body.
    If you could provide more than a random example from the last year then we will continue. Sometimes no comment is needed , silence can be golden...

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    I promise I'm not doing this to pick on you, but since you gave the challenge:

    From this thread
    From this thread:
    Granted, neither of those posts is JUST a link, but since you don't tell us anything about the links, we have to click over there to see what the links have to do with the title, so they may as well just be links. How about a one-sentence summary so we can decide how interested we are in what you have to share before clicking over? Or how about a thread title that tells us what the links go to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scrivener View Post
    [...]How about a one-sentence summary so we can decide how interested we are in what you have to share before clicking over? Or how about a thread title that tells us what the links go to?
    I made that request quite awhile ago to no avail, even citing an HT rule:
    6.[...] But when directing people to other sites, please include some information about the destination. Instead of posting just a URL, or a message with a generic hyperlink like "click here," include some context, like, "Check out this great Hawaii message board."[...]
    I enjoy Ron's posts but skip those that don't clue us in to the subject.

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    To be fair, there are a few people who create posts like this. But thank you for the affirmation, sue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
    If you could provide more than a random example from the last year then we will continue. Sometimes no comment is needed , silence can be golden...
    Ron, whenever no comment is needed, no thread is needed. Silence can indeed be golden.
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