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    The Recording Academy this morning announced a restructuring of the Awards overall (including the way members are allowed to vote) - press release at http://www.grammy.org/recording-acad.../press-release

    You may be curious about the Hawaiian Album category. Here's what is happening with that (quoted directly from the Grammy.com website):

    American Roots Music. The traditional and contemporary blues categories and the traditional and contemporary folk categories each were consolidated into one per genre, due to the number of entries and given the challenges in distinguishing between Contemporary Folk and Americana and Contemporary and Traditional Blues. There has been a great deal of concern over the consistently low entries in the Hawaiian, Native American and Cajun/Zydeco Categories. It was believed best to continue to honor such regional music, but to do it all together, recognizing the very cream of this crop, with one category: Regional Roots Music. This has a pattern/precedent in Regional Mexican Music and would incorporate Hawaiian, Cajun/Zydeco, Native American, and Polka music (which has a regional home in the Great Lakes states).

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    I have mixed feelings about this, as I imagine would anyone who loves Hawaiian music but thinks the Grammy categories are (overall) too specific. Heck, I think the Hollywood Foreign Press (whom I dislike) is too specific with its Golden Globes for best pictures in drama and musical/comedy categories. From as objective a standpoint as I can muster, I guess I have to say this is a good move.
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    It's no real surprise. Many of these categories were barely sustaining themselves anyway. Considering how many people were upset at Hawaiian music competing with itself, I hope they can grasp that it now has to compete with Polka, Cajun/Zydeco & Native American music releases.

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    The Star-Advertiser now has the story at this link, under the somewhat misleading headline of "Grammys cut Hawaiian music category in overhaul of awards". Included in the story:

    Other changes will require each category to have at least 40 entries instead of 25, and categories that receive between 25 and 39 will have only three nominations instead of four or five.
    If a category gets fewer than 25 entries, it will be removed for that year, and if it happens three years in a row, the category will be discontinued and the material will find a new home in a related genre.
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    Village Voice blogger's take on it.

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    By the way, the Star-Advertiser story that I linked to was written by Associated Press.
    Kind of funny that the very first sentence in that story reads:

    Tia Carrere won't be taking home any more Grammys for best Hawaiian music album.

    Somewhere Dennis Kamakahi and Cyril Pahinui must be laughing and clapping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo Lakio View Post
    Village Voice blogger's take on it.
    I read that and didn't see any "take" on it, other than including the Hawaiian category as one that was shifted. But no opinion or anything in there.
    What was in there though was this link to a story in the New York Times from February, which really does have a lot to say.
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    Good reading on the NY Time. I would never have guess, that even (Hawaiian) music was that political.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LikaNui View Post
    this link to a story in the New York Times from February, which really does have a lot to say.
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    Good reading on the NY Time.
    Indeed it is; I posted that link to HT back on Feb. 4, in fact. Nate grew up in Hawai`i and is an excellent music writer; I was impressed that he got the Times to run a big piece on a musical genre that's of little concern to most folks not in the Islands.

    As for "opinions" in the Village Voice piece - they are clearly there; a lot of "this is probably..." and "perhaps this is..." statements; it's a blog piece and reads as such.

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    As not too much grumble, grumble, so they went take away the award cuz poor sport as why?

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    Yeah - what he said.

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    John Berger has a longer story in today's paper on the third page of section B, and there's also a large banner about it on the top of the very front page of the paper.
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    The most telling quote in the story comes from Academy VP Bill Freimuth: “One thing that I found out during these calls was that a lot of these people were qualified to be members of the academy, but chose not to, so it was difficult to talk with people who decided to not be part of the process.”

    I believe that's what many of us have been saying for quite some time. It was easier for people to gripe about the results than to step up and be involved - easier to object than to be objective. For some people, if they couldn't be king of the sandbox, then they felt there shouldn't even BE a sandbox.

    But I'm glad to see Uncle Dennis returning to a healthier attitude about the value of the awards, following his initial (and understandable) post-Grammy reactions. I think this also increases the value of the Nā Hōkū Hanohano Awards, which are in a better position to represent the range of music coming from Hawai`i and its musicians.

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    Until 4pm today you can vote in an online poll. Go to the Star-Advertiser's main page and scroll down; look for the poll on the right-hand side.
    You can vote yes or no to this question:

    Should Hawaiian musicians boycott the Grammy Awards’ telecast partner, CBS, for dropping Hawaiian music as a category in the competition?

    Remember, they're asking if we should boycott CBS, who had absolutely nothing to do with the Grammy's category change. DUH. I can't imagine why anyone at all would vote yes on this.
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    Boycotting CBS is foolish, especially when the network gives the state huge weekly exposure via the new "Hawaii Five-0" TV show... 10 to 12 million viewers a week.

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    I honestly have mixed feelings about this situation as well; I'm really sad to see something that was fought to obtain for so long go away within only a few years since its inception. On the other hand, the lack of participation within Hawaii's music community to keep the category going, despite the controversy of who rightfully won the Hawaiian Grammy category, probably led to its demise.

    I had the opportunity to go to Los Angeles for the Grammy Awards as part of the Music and Entertainment Learning Experience (MELE) Program at HCC with four other students, and the music community there is very active, attending the songwriter workshops, artist showcases, and other activities leading up to the event. Compare with the Grammy 101 meeting on July 18, 2011. Though there were people that turned out, it met below expectations. (It can be implied, though, that there are other factors involved with the low turnout, being on the start of the work week with people just coming out of their 9 to 5 and maybe even lack of promotion for the event.)

    But we, as a community, need to have an initiative to be more proactive - music should no longer be hobby for most if we want these changes; it has to become a career. I understand the need for a day job to support, but to churn out great music, it has to be a way of life, just as how I saw it is in Los Angeles. And then we could tackle the issue of reinstating the Hawaiian Grammy category.

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    For those curious about the changes in this year’s Grammy system – as you know from earlier discussions, Hawaiian music is now incorporated into the Category of “Best Regional Roots Music Album” (as part of the “American Roots” field), alongside Native American, Cajun/Zydeco & Polka releases.

    This year’s eligibility list consists of 55 albums, 13 of which are Hawaiian. They are:
    * “No Ku`uipo” – Ahumanu
    * “Kale`a” – Kawika Alfiche
    * “Hula” – Robert Cazimero
    * “Aia I Hi`ialo” – Hi`ikua
    * “Kaunaloa” – Kuana Torres Kahele
    * “Wao Akua – The Forest Of The Gods” – George Kahumoku, Jr.
    * “Play With Me Papa” – John Keawe
    * “Aina” – Mailani
    * “Kawaipono” – Kenneth Makuakane
    * “In My Heart” – Doug & Sandy McMaster
    * “A Tribute To Na Lani `Eha” (various artists)
    * “Na Haku Mele O Hawai`i” (various artists)
    * “Wahine” (various artists)

    In addition, voters are no longer restricted to voting in a limited number of specialized fields (which, as we’ve often discussed, leads to bluegrass experts choosing to vote in a field that included Hawaiian, etc.); now, we are allowed to choose up to 20 individual categories (out of nearly 80), in whichever fields we like. This is to encourage voting only in the areas that are our individual strengths, rather than just filling out categories in fields where we were voting for something.

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    One Hawaiian album made the cut to be a nominee (announced tonight) --- congratulations to Uncle George!

    Best Regional Roots Music Album
    For albums containing at least 51% playing time of new vocal or instrumental regional roots music recordings. NOTE: This category is intended to recognize recordings of regionally based traditional music, including but not limited to Hawaiian, Native American, polka, zydeco and Cajun music.

    1. CAN'T SIT DOWN
    C.J. Chenier
    [World Village]

    2. WAO AKUA - THE FOREST OF THE GODS
    George Kahumoku, Jr.
    [Daniel Ho Creations]


    3. REBIRTH OF NEW ORLEANS
    Rebirth Brass Band
    [Basin Street Records]

    4. GRAND ISLE
    Steve Riley & The Mamou Playboys
    [Mamou Playboy Records]

    5. NOT JUST ANOTHER POLKA
    Jimmy Sturr & His Orchestra
    [Starr Record]

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    Congratulations to George!
    But it's interesting that his record was put out on Daniel Ho's label and that Daniel Ho produced the album and also did the recording, mastering, and graphic design.
    That would be the same Daniel Ho that Dennis Kamakahi and Cyril Pahinui absolutely blasted last year.
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    I didn't think it would take long for the focus to shift off Uncle George and onto Daniel Ho, who has become a lightning-rod for many attacks in the Hawaiian music community. George considers Daniel to be among his haumana, and gives him much credit for the success of the weekly slack-key concerts on Maui, due to the public attention given to the multiple (and multiple Grammy-winning) releases of music from those concerts – releases that include performances by luminaries of kī hō`alu (including Dennis Kamakahi and Cyril Pahinui).

    George and Daniel have also released six albums of duets over the years, playing everything from hula classics to Hawaiian hymns (the latter being material that George had promised to his kūpuna for many years, but he says he might never have finished had it not been for Daniel). Other respected folks who have worked with Daniel include Kawaikapuokalani Hewett, Darlene Ahuna, Herb Ohta, Jr., Keoki Kahumoku and scholar/haku mele Dr. Amy Ku`uleialoha Stillman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo Lakio View Post
    I didn't think it would take long for the focus to shift off Uncle George and onto Daniel Ho, who has become a lightning-rod for many attacks in the Hawaiian music community.
    Why? Did the attacks on Daniel already start in that Taro Patch group or elsewhere? I'll have to go look.
    I've never attacked him and in fact have been a strong supporter of Daniel. Just saying. Don't want readers here on HT to think you're accusing me of shifting any focus or of attacking him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo Lakio View Post
    I didn't think it would take long for the focus to shift off Uncle George and onto Daniel Ho, ---
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    Why? Did the attacks on Daniel already start in that Taro Patch group or elsewhere? I'll have to go look.
    I've never attacked him and in fact have been a strong supporter of Daniel. Just saying. Don't want readers here on HT to think you're accusing me of shifting any focus or of attacking him.
    Never said you "attacked" him, only that you shifted the focus - which you did, as early as the fourth word in your post:
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    Congratulations to George!
    But it's interesting that his record was put out on Daniel Ho's label and that Daniel Ho produced the album and also did the recording, mastering, and graphic design.
    That would be the same Daniel Ho that Dennis Kamakahi and Cyril Pahinui absolutely blasted last year.
    Unless someone has hijacked your HT account, I have to assume that was your post.

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    http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/b..._a_Grammy.html

    From the S-A: "Slack key songs about the Hawaiian forest could win a Grammy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo Lakio View Post
    I didn't think it would take long for the focus to shift off Uncle George and onto Daniel Ho, who has become a lightning-rod for many attacks in the Hawaiian music community.
    Just pointing out here that you were the first one to use the word "attacks," just for the record.




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    Good link. Thanks!
    And here's a quote from that article:

    "Daniel Ho, who produced Kahumoku's nominated album, received a Grammy nomination of his own, for best pop instrumental album for "E Kahe Mahie." Ho has four Hawaiian music Grammys as a producer and one as a performer."

    How cool is that? Daniel is also in the Best Pop Instrumental album! I've gotta find out who he's up against.
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