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    Default Oceanic Trashbased Biodiversity

    In the weeks since the Tsunami, the ocean in Kona has been littered with "floaters". Plastic, Wood, Styrofoam, you name it. Lots of junk in the ocean.

    Everytime we drag our lures past these floaters, not only do we catch fish, but I notice a tremendous ecosystem under the floaters. Photosynthetic organisms cling to the floaters, stuffed with micro-crustaceans, surrounded by little fish, who are being eaten by bigger fish, who are being eaten by Bigger fish, who are being eaten by BIGGER fish, and some of those are being eaten by me.

    So if a small floater off the Kona Coast is fostering such incredible biodiversity, and the fish are multiplying rapidly,

    THEN HOW GOOD IS FISHING AT THE PACIFIC TRASH GYRE?

    And will all the flotsam and jetsam, that is sure to be covered in biodiversity by now, from Japan help to increase fish stocks in the Pacific?

    Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, religious zealots like the environmentalists will burst a gasket when they read this. But the fishing has been terrific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timkona View Post
    THEN HOW GOOD IS FISHING AT THE PACIFIC TRASH GYRE?
    Probably quite astounding. How do you feel about eating fish that are filled with plastic particulate?

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    They can't metabolze the plastc so not n the meat. Dont eat the stomach.

    Come on Leo surely you can do better than that.
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    Default Re: Oceanic Trashbased Biodiversity

    I never cease to be amazed by the adaptability of living things.

    Sometimes I think we should take a more hands-off approach to nature, just do what we do, and if we lose some species. . . so be it. It'll open a niche for something else to fill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timkona View Post
    They can't metabolze the plastc so not n the meat.
    You are wrong, Tim. The plastics break down into compounds that fish easily metabolize, including compounds that are known to be carcinogenic. It's basic marine biology.

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    Default Re: Oceanic Trashbased Biodiversity

    So the fsh get cancer or the humans who eat the fsh get cancer?
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    Default Re: Oceanic Trashbased Biodiversity

    Grab some goggles and answer to nobody.

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    Default Re: Oceanic Trashbased Biodiversity

    maybe we need to build more H-power plants and harvest this stuff for our energy needs. Build a floating power station with cables to each island.
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    After further reading, turns out the "trash" gyre is not like a bunch of floaters out there with tons of fish underneath. In fact, except for some small spots, the only way to know it's there is to sample the water chemically...then it's obvious.

    Like Leo said, plastics get smaller but they stay "plastic", even down to the molecular level.

    But basically, it ain't like finding a big floater full of Mahi's.

    Learned something new.
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