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  • The Coach McMackin deathwatch

    No BS. No extraneous double-talk. And no excuses. Here's the deal, plain and simple.

    UH needs to win against Tulane and BYU, which would earn the Warriors a Hawaii Bowl berth.

    Tulane, with a 2-10 record, is even more downtrodden than UH. But pulling off an upset against BYU (standing at 8-3 following today's 42-7 trouncing of New Mexico St.) is going to be a tall order.

    But just getting to the Hawaii Bowl won't be enough to save the coach's skin. UH has to win it. After going 0-2 in previous Hawaii Bowl appearances under Mack, he gets no mulligan this time around.

    I'm not holding my breath with the expectation that the Warriors will win all these games. Thus starts the Greg MacMackin era deathwatch.
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    I think it's a safe guess that Frankie wasn't happy that the Warriors lost yesterday to Fresno State.
    Probably because Fresno State came into the came with a horrible 3-7 record.
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    That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

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    • #3
      Re: The Coach McMackin deathwatch

      tick tock...
      I'm still here. Are you?

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      • #4
        Re: The Coach McMackin deathwatch

        (background music) "Time" - Pink Floyd

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        • #5
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          The poll on the SA's website today is whether or not McMackin should be fired. You don't have to be a subscriber to the website to vote, and I think voting stays open until 4pm.
          When I voted a couple of hours ago there were already about 400 votes, with 74% voting to fire him.
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          That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

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          • #6
            Re: The Coach McMackin deathwatch

            Originally posted by LikaNui View Post
            The poll on the SA's website today is whether or not McMackin should be fired. You don't have to be a subscriber to the website to vote, and I think voting stays open until 4pm.
            When I voted a couple of hours ago there were already about 400 votes, with 74% voting to fire him.
            900 votes now and it's not even noon. Still over 71% voting to fire him.
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            That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

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            • #7
              Re: The Coach McMackin deathwatch

              Originally posted by LikaNui View Post
              900 votes now and it's not even noon. Still over 71% voting to fire him.
              1:47 p.m. update: more than 1,000 votes, with the percentage to fire McMackin holding steady at an overwhelming 71%. In an earlier thread, Ron Whitfield questioned whether McMackin’s removal was a good idea, in spite of some compelling strikes against him. I think today’s Star-Advertiser outlines the big picture.

              Forecast sees red for UH athletics

              Unexpected losses by the football team have hurt revenue

              By Ferd Lewis
              POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, Nov 22, 2011

              ...the Warriors, who suffered a series of upsets, are 5-6 with two games remaining, have no chance to win the conference and won't qualify for a berth in the Sheraton Hawaii Bowl if they fail to win both.

              The Warriors are averaging 29,011 through the Aloha Stadium turnstiles, and if the final figure dips below 28,000, it would represent the lowest point since the 0-12 season of 1998.

              We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans.

              — U.S. President Bill Clinton
              USA TODAY, page 2A
              11 March 1993

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              • #8
                Re: The Coach McMackin deathwatch

                And the prospective great green hope is...?
                https://www.facebook.com/Bobby-Ingan...5875444640256/

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                • #9
                  Re: The Coach McMackin deathwatch

                  If this is true, then the program is in big trouble and it doesn't matter who is the coach:

                  http://www.kitv.com/news/29836568/detail.html

                  As for boosting attendence. You wonder if that has to do with poor economy, lack of interest, etc. Bringing in a coach that can help boost that attendance and bring in top recruits, which translate into a winning record is not always an easy thing to do.

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                  • #10
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                    HPD is saying that there's not enough information to open a criminal investigation into the allegations of point shaving on the part of UH. But of course, that doesn't mean that the FBI cannot do its own investigation if our local boys in blue are on the take going to look the other way. Some offshore sportsbooks have seemingly drawn their own conclusions by taking the upcoming UH-Tulane game off the board.

                    UH not being able to cover the spread in 5 of their last 6 games. Blowing 4th quarter leads in 3 of those games (vs. SJSU, Utah State, and Fresno State). And who can forget the 3 failed extra point attempts against Washington (one of them returned by UW for 2 points), all of which turned what should have been the Warriors covering a 4 point spread into an 8 point loss.

                    Very strange.
                    Last edited by Frankie's Market; November 23, 2011, 04:06 AM.
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                    • #11
                      Re: The Coach McMackin deathwatch

                      Originally posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
                      And the prospective great green hope is...?
                      Can't think of any viable candidate, Ron?

                      Right off the top of my head, an excellent candidate is Navy coach Ken Niumatalolo. His Hawaii ties are strong. Radford High star. Starting UH QB. Got his start in coaching as a grad assistant on Bob Wagner's staff. Later taken under the wing of Paul Johnson, which eventually led to Niumatalolo's current gig at Navy.

                      Niumatalolo is Laie native and a LDS member, which would help UH attract more of the kids from Kahuku. The fact that he is the only current NCAA head coach of Samoan descent will also likely help UH when it comes to the very fertile recruiting grounds of American Samoa.
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                      • #12
                        Re: The Coach McMackin deathwatch

                        Originally posted by Frankie's Market View Post
                        Can't think of any viable candidate, Ron?
                        That's one, and a good one, but do you think he'd take the job for under or even equal what they pay Mac? Would you be willing to see him paid his prospective worth? Think he'd take a big pay hit with grace the way Mac has?
                        https://www.facebook.com/Bobby-Ingan...5875444640256/

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                        • #13
                          Re: The Coach McMackin deathwatch

                          Originally posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
                          That's one, and a good one, but do you think he'd take the job for under or even equal what they pay Mac? Would you be willing to see him paid his prospective worth? Think he'd take a big pay hit with grace the way Mac has?
                          I'm all in for a UH coach in any sport to be the highest paid among their peers in the conference.... as long as there is a reciprocal result in the team's performance. Mac was the highest paid football coach in the WAC since he took over the reins 4 years ago. And during that time span, the Warriors have not responded with anything even remotely close to being the top team in the WAC. Simply put,.... the man has not earned his money. I don't know about you, but in my line of work, that kind of performance means someone is going to lose his job, and soon. The UHAD is not a soup kitchen.

                          If Ken has ambitions of coaching at a BCS school, then of course, UH won't be able to match whatever salary is offered. But not every coach maps out their career chasing the almighty dollar, everything else be damned. June Jones passed up higher paying NFL jobs to come to Manoa. This, despite the fact that he only played in the UH program for a couple of seasons before transferring out to Portland St. OTOH, Ken has infinitely deeper islands roots than June. Besides everything that I mentioned in my previous post about Ken's island connections, there's family considerations as well. According to Ken's bio, his daughter attends BYUH. You can't place a dollar value on spending more time with your children.
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                          • #14
                            Re: The Coach McMackin deathwatch

                            Originally posted by Frankie's Market View Post
                            the man has not earned his money.

                            UH won't be able to match whatever BCS salary is offered.

                            But not every coach maps out their career chasing the almighty dollar, everything else be damned.

                            You can't place a dollar value on spending more time with your children.
                            That's ludicris.

                            Then where are we going with Warrior football, condemed to the kiddie go-round?

                            That coach's name would also be... McMackin.

                            How old are his 'kids'?
                            https://www.facebook.com/Bobby-Ingan...5875444640256/

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                            • #15
                              Re: The Coach McMackin deathwatch

                              Originally posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
                              That's ludicris.

                              Then where are we going with Warrior football, condemed to the kiddie go-round?

                              That coach's name would also be... McMackin.

                              How old are his 'kids'?
                              I'm sorry, sir. You have the wrong location. This is not the Greg McMackin admiration society.

                              The thread you are looking for is over here.

                              You're welcome. And the best of success with wherever you and your ilk end up next year. Hey, maybe a reunion with JJ over at SMU.
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