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  • #31
    Re: GMO Labeling in Hawai'i

    Originally posted by salmoned View Post
    Will humans rule the Earth forevermore?
    Do we at present? Only if "rule" = "does the most harm."

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    • #32
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      Oops, double post. Yeah, I usually edit posts extensively because if I work on one too long without posting, the system devours it.
      I hope you enjoy how I've changed that quoted line.
      Last edited by salmoned; December 6, 2012, 07:42 AM.
      May I always be found beneath your contempt.

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      • #33
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        Here's a wonderful tidbit I just read in the UH paper Ka Leo, Molokai Ranch, whom owns much of that island, "leases land to Monsanto for pennies and provides them with water at highly reduced rates."
        https://www.facebook.com/Bobby-Ingan...5875444640256/

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        • #34
          Re: GMO Labeling in Hawai'i

          Originally posted by Leo Lakio View Post
          Originally posted by salmoned
          Will humans rule the Earth forevermore?
          Do we at present? Only if "rule" = "does the most harm."
          I think our descendents will indeed rule the Earth forever more. But there might be some question whether they are humans (if they carry, for example, asparagus genes).
          Greg

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          • #35
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            Just showing your lack of foresight, forevermore doesn't include the Earth.
            May I always be found beneath your contempt.

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            • #36
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              Lot of information out there. This one in particular caught my eye. This article reports that we are getting results that are exactly opposite than what everyone believed would happen by going with GMO.

              http://www.businessinsider.com/study...icides-2012-10

              Pesticide use is increasing and herbicide use is significantly up after dropping off for a number of years.

              So it appears that the GMO crops will still be grown utilizng quantities of herbicide and pesticides as nature is evolving to adapt.

              I too am still learning the facts about GMO and am not on the bandwagon to ban it. However, I am strongly in favor of labeling such product so I can avoid it's use until I learn more about it's effects, especially, long term effects. I do not mind paying more for non GMO foods (as I choose to pay more for organic foods). I would just like to have that choice, which I do not have at this time.
              Whoa, Mista Buss Driva, eh, you can stop the buss o wat?

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              • #37
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                Originally posted by Moto View Post
                This article reports that we are getting results that are exactly opposite than what everyone believed would happen by going with GMO.
                New crop varieties were developed to increase tolerance to herbicide, and now we find that more herbicide is being used. Why is that surprising? Being able to use more herbicide was the point of developing the new crops in the first place.

                The article says that insecticide use dropped 28 percent from 1996 (when Roundup Ready strains were introduced) to 2011. Isn't that a good thing?
                Greg

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                • #38
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                  True the article states that pesticide use has dropped from 1996 to 2011, however, pesticide use is once again on the rise because of insects showing resistance to the genetically modified crops, leading us to believe that the pesticide trend is somewhat following the herbicide trend.

                  Would be interesting to know if the resistant stain of weeds that the article talk about are the same weeds that the GMO product initially killed (which leads me to believe that only the most resistant weeds survived and now they've become predominately resistant, similar to the penicillin effect) or if the elimination of one type of weed cleared the way for others to thrive (of course more resistant to the GMO product, but probably could not compete with the once predominant weed)
                  Whoa, Mista Buss Driva, eh, you can stop the buss o wat?

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                  • #39
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                    Just two youtube videos concerning GMO labeling in Hawaii.

                    Testimony and... at Honolulu City Council meeting 11/27/12.
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm8SoHykRYo

                    The "just label it movement" in Hawaii has been led by the magnificent seven of which names are Walter Ritte, Dr. Melissa Yee, Dr. Hector Valenzuela, Hesh Goldstein, Mary Oyama, Jeri Di Pietro, and Courtney Bruch.
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfCpIDZ0Kh4
                    Life is either an adventure... or you're not doing it right!!!

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                    • #40
                      Re: GMO Labeling in Hawai'i

                      For those of you who want to view a debate on this subject:

                      Watch a live debate on the controversial development of genetically modified crops in Hawaii: “Biotech in Hawaii,” on PBS Hawaii - Channel 10, at 8pm. Or, watch via online LIVE streaming

                      Host Dan Boylan will moderate a discussion about the controversial development of genetically modified crops in Hawaii. Guests from the bio-tech industry and those opposed to GMO practices will offer their views. They will also discuss the ongoing labeling debate and realted public health and environmental and land issues.
                      Panelists will include:
                      • Mark Fergusson, Chief Executive and Chief Financial Officer at Down to Earth
                      • Richard Manshardt, Horticulturist at UH College of Tropical Agriculture and Human Resources
                      • Mark Phillipson, President of Hawaii Crop Improvement Association;
                      • Hector Valenzuela, Vegetable Crops Extension Specialist at UH College of Tropical Agriculture and Human Resources.
                      You will be able to to join the live discussion or participate via Twitter using the #PBSinsights hash tag.
                      Tune in Tonight!
                      THURSDAY, DECEMBER 13, at 8PM
                      E Malama I Ka ‘Aina, E Ola Pono
                      Cherish the Land, Live in Health and Harmony
                      Whoa, Mista Buss Driva, eh, you can stop the buss o wat?

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                      • #41
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                        Thanks for the info. According to my schedule, it's on satellite TV on channel 11, 8-9pm, as "Insights on PBS Hawaii".
                        Greg

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                        • #42
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                          Thanks Moto! Will catch the show...
                          Life is either an adventure... or you're not doing it right!!!

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                          • #43
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                            There's an Insights livestream on PBSHawaii.org if you can't catch it on TV. The livestream usually goes up around 7:30 before the show. Expecting it to be a lively discussion...

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                            • #44
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                              Just watched it.
                              The GMO foods guys had good arguments that had true merit.
                              And so did the anti or at least label guys too.

                              If you wish to watch PBS Hawaii shows online then...
                              http://www.livestream.com/pbshawaii/...tent=pbshawaii
                              Life is either an adventure... or you're not doing it right!!!

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                              • #45
                                Re: GMO Labeling in Hawai'i

                                Originally posted by Moto View Post
                                Panelists will include:
                                • Mark Fergusson, Chief Executive and Chief Financial Officer at Down to Earth
                                Which side will he be on?

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