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    Who thinks there will be no third trial?
    Just like in the Zimmerman debacle an armed misguided do gooder goes way beyond the call of duty and someone at the business end of the gun ends up dead, and the shooter get's away with it. The prosecution had a good case but has painted itself in a corner in the first trial and now will look silly if they try to go ahead with a third despite going against their own statements that lesser charges aren't viable.
    Deedy caused all this by leaving his hotel with his service gun, knowing he was going out drinking, an age old big time no no, but that angle has been basically ignored. Then we had two parties out looking for trouble in lil old Waikiki, one a 'bad' guy and the other a 'good' guy along with their friend/s, lo and behold each party found each other. Eldert's eventually caused his own death by pursuing Deedy after knowing he was armed, but Deedy should pay somehow for his guilt, plus it seems he lied under oath.
    Last edited by Ron Whitfield; August 18th, 2014 at 02:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
    Who thinks there will be no third trial?
    There's gotta be a retrial. Also, we need to have general elections until Neil Abercrombie wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
    Who thinks there will be no third trial?
    It seems that just might be the way it ends up, no third trial.
    The SA reports:
    The Hawaii Supreme Court was scheduled to hear oral arguments Thursday morning on whether U.S. State Department special agent Christopher Deedy should stand trial a third time for a fatal 2011 shooting.
    His lawyers argue that a third trial would violate Deedy’s constitutional rights against double jeopardy and legal prohibitions against allowing the government to continually take a defendant to trial until it gets a conviction. They also argue that Deedy cannot be tried for manslaughter because the prosecutor abandoned the charge in both trials by arguing against letting the jury consider it.
    The lawyers might have a good point. If the prosecutor previously said in trials that manslaughter was an inappropriate finding, then how can the prosecutor come back NOW that he's lost the murder approach, and claim that manslaughter is an appropriate finding?
    Will the judge decide that it was a mess up by the prosecution (in the original trial)? If so, I bet the police must get totally frustrated, to do the police work on a case and then have things fall apart in trial.
    Now run along and play, but don’t get into trouble.

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    the whole thing was botched and I was surprised Prosecutor Futa was so pathetic, now the blatantly culpable cop walks off to enable more armed misjudgments. both Deedy and Elderts should have stayed home that fateful nite instead of heading into the ki's to drink and look for easy trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
    the whole thing was botched and I was surprised Prosecutor Futa was so pathetic, now the blatantly culpable cop walks off to enable more armed misjudgments. both Deedy and Elderts should have stayed home that fateful nite instead of heading into the ki's to drink and look for easy trouble.
    Apparently, Civil Beat Agrees...

    Deedy Case: Time To Let Go Of A Case That’s Gone Nowhere
    The Hawaii Supreme Court should reject the prosecution’s efforts to try Christopher Deedy a third time.

    By Civil Beat Editorial Board / February 16, 2017


    There is no new evidence, as far as we know, and no new information to present. Two juries have come down against murder — the first deadlocked 8-4 in favor of acquittal and the second rejected the charge outright.

    People can argue forever over whether Deedy should have stepped into the middle between Elderts and another McDonald’s customer who Elderts had been harassing. And there’s also the issue of whether police officers should be permitted to carry guns if they have been out drinking. Deedy was off-duty at the time.

    But, if he was — as he says — attempting as a law enforcement officer to diffuse a problem, is he guilty of manslaughter?

    We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans.

    — U.S. President Bill Clinton
    USA TODAY, page 2A
    11 March 1993

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    I've always contended Deedy was culpable first and foremost for being improperly armed in public, which inevitably leads to questioning his mindset / motives. I say guilty of manslaughter / 2nd - 10 yrs., out in 5 at most
    Last edited by Ron Whitfield; March 12th, 2017 at 01:39 PM.

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    Red face Hawai'i Supreme Court Rules Third Trial Possible

    'Until justice is achieved': City prosecutor to seek third trial in Deedy case

    Published: Thursday, December 14th 2017, 11:25 am HST
    Updated: Thursday, December 14th 2017, 3:31 pm HST


    By HNN Staff

    HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) - The city prosecutor says he'll seek a third trial against the State Department special agent who fatally shot a man inside a Waikiki McDonald's in 2011.

    Prosecutor Keith Kaneshiro said he'll seek a manslaughter charge against Christopher Deedy.

    The announcement came hours after the state Supreme Court ruled Thursday that a third trial against Deedy could proceed.

    We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans.

    — U.S. President Bill Clinton
    USA TODAY, page 2A
    11 March 1993

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