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  • eeeee-booooo-laaaaa

    As in ri-co-la

    Someone was/is hospitalized at Queen's for suspected ebola yet there's little been said in our print/radio media, maybe TV carried it, but it's odd that the mainland knows more about it than we do.
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    http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/b...l?id=277920111

    "The state Health Department has determined that a man hospitalized in isolation at the Queen's Medical Center does not meet the criteria for testing for Ebola and the man is no longer under evaluation for possible Ebola infection."

    Benjamin N. Haynes CDC spokesman, said Thursday: "We can't say definitively it's not Ebola if no test is done, but it doesn't appear to be Ebola based on symptoms and history."

    There are some people who are unhappy that the patient was not actually tested for ebola or that the hospital did not at least wait out the 21 day incubation period, though.

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    • #3
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      Originally posted by Adri View Post
      Benjamin N. Haynes CDC spokesman, said Thursday: "We can't say definitively it's not Ebola if no test is done, but it doesn't appear to be Ebola based on symptoms and history."
      There are some people who are unhappy that the patient was not actually tested for ebola or that the hospital did not at least wait out the 21 day incubation period, though.
      No kidding, that statement from a CDC official and the person's release is at least as stupid as the nurse in Dallas that didn't recognize a flaming red flag the second the guy came in and said where he'd been.
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      • #4
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        Now we know it was more than the nurse's negligence in Dallas, it was another total breakdown in protocol with the doctors blowing it by not questioning anything regarding the patient, unacceptable negligence.
        Maybe even worse was how the man's family were dealt with, being forced to stay in the small 2 br apt. they all shared for over a week's time after he was diagnosed with 1 br off limits because it was full of highly contaminated linings and the whole apt.'s surfaces contaminated, and leaving these adults and kids scared to death of becoming infected without any recourse and maybe they have been infected and could die. How fucking stupid are these officials in handling this matter? This country can no longer do anything right.
        Bright side, maybe we dodged a bullet with the Queens patient seemingly OK.
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        • #5
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          Originally posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
          Bright side, maybe we dodged a bullet with the Queens patient seemingly OK.
          No such luck for the Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital patient.

          Ebola patient in Dallas turns critical, no new U.S. cases

          The case of Thomas Eric Duncan, who arrived in Dallas from Liberia two weeks ago, has heightened concerns that the worst epidemic of Ebola on record could spread from West Africa where it began in March and has taken more than 3,400 lives.

          [...]

          The hospital said in a terse statement on Saturday that he was in critical condition, a worsening from the “serious condition” he was listed in the previous two days. The hospital declined to elaborate.

          We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans.

          — U.S. President Bill Clinton
          USA TODAY, page 2A
          11 March 1993

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          • #6
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            No kidding the hospital declined to elaborate, if the guy dies they're in for a sue job for blowing it. I'd be a bit terse as well if I knew I was largely responsible for his death when it could have probably been avoided and spreading it around.
            Notice how republicans want to typically / psychotically blame it all on Obama, but Rick Perry get's a pass? No 'plenty of blame to go around' this time when future hopeful Pres. candidate part deux Rick "OOPS!" Perry is on the prison ropes already.
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            • #7
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              Reports out of Dallas say "permits" were partially to blame for the unacceptably nasty way the family was treated. Heads need to roll and a totally revamping of protocol and procedure needs to be enacted to reform that mass of mess.
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              • #8
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                Now the guy is dead, a day after they finally gave him some experimental drug that has saved the lives of all the others that came into the US with it to be treated, he was the first to die while all the others have survived with the drugs, or are improving. They got the drugs early, he got it way too late, yet it was available all along. He's black, they're all white. Funny how that worked.
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                • #9
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                  He did not receive the same experimental drug that the two aid workers who were brought back to the US received (ZMapp). The experimental drugs were not meant to be used on humans for treatment yet so the drug company didn't have a lot of it on hand and the drug manufacturer says they ran out of the drug before Duncan got to the US and it will take them months to make more. As to why there was a delay in Duncan receiving experimental drugs, I've seen articles that say that special permission is required from the FDA to use experimental drugs on humans and the hospital had to apply for this special permission but also did not want to give Duncan these really experimental drugs unless his condition worsened (which it did, and he did get an experimental drug) because the drug is experimental and might have killed Duncan on its own.

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                  • #10
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                    They say he didn't get the drug because they ran out of it...
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                    • #11
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                      Anybody know what kind of screening is going on a HIAirport?
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                      • #12
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                        After the new nurse in Dallas 'somehow' getting contaminated and hearing a former Surgeon General of the United States recently comment unconvincingly that our screening at airports is adequate I'm figuring ebola will explode worldwide thanx to our stupidity and Hawaii will be a hotspot.
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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
                          Anybody know what kind of screening is going on a HIAirport?
                          Originally posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
                          ...and Hawaii will be a hotspot.
                          Are there any airlines that do direct flights from West African nations to Hawai`i? If not, screening would be likely to occur prior to anyone flying there.

                          But of course, screwups will happen...are happening...

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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by Leo Lakio View Post
                            But of course, screwups will happen...are happening...
                            It's crazy the lax attitudes that prevail with so many of the officials in charge, from top to bottom, they've allowed this thing to get out of hand. It's probably easier to transmit than they're telling people, obviously airborne and sweat are top ways and that's everywhere in public. Now it's flu season and if this needless calamity progresses the panic will easily explode with everybody thinking their 98 degree temperature a sure death warrant. This all seems way too convenient.
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                              Originally posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
                              It's crazy the lax attitudes that prevail with so many of the officials in charge, from top to bottom, they've allowed this thing to get out of hand. It's probably easier to transmit than they're telling people, obviously airborne and sweat are top ways and that's everywhere in public. Now it's flu season and if this needless calamity progresses the panic will easily explode with everybody thinking their 98 degree temperature a sure death warrant. This all seems way too convenient.
                              Naturally the 'officials' will play down any danger to avoid panic and riots (as we have seen elsewhere, thank you). They will also mount inadequate measures to halt the disease (because they are too busy getting Gun Control passed?)

                              Face it. Lots of people are going to die.

                              When it was an "African" problem, token gestures were met. If it gets loose in the USA (indirectly because of our 'token gestures'), everyone will be too busy finger-pointing blame to do anything effective.

                              We all die of something, eventually, hopefully not before 'our time,' but we all will die.
                              No exceptions.

                              Ebola, gunshot, car crash, overdose, medical malpractice, falling out of a tree, crime deaths, old age, illness, cancer, flu, smallpox, the black death, war, murder, matapules, drowning, allergies, alcoholism, 'misfortune,' accident, etc.

                              We do what we can, but there will always be victims, no matter what we do.

                              Eventually every one of us will be a victim to something.

                              Live with it, until you no longer can, and in the meantime do what you can to stem the tide.

                              Best of luck.
                              Be Yourself. Everyone Else Is Taken!
                              ~ ~
                              Kaʻonohiʻulaʻokahōkūmiomioʻehiku
                              Spreading the virus of ALOHA.
                              Oh Chu. If only you could have seen what I've seen, with your eyes.

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