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  • #91
    Re: How serious is the nuclear threat from N. Korea?

    Well, let's say that North Korea has developed a nuke system, which includes a delivery system.

    Maybe N.Korea should consider that it's not hard for the US Navy to park a couple of boomers offshore. Should the worst come, each of these subs would surface to launch depth and shower the entire country with enough firepower to flatten much of their entire nation.

    I'm not too eager about seeing a nuke war. But if some nut case wants to start something, then it's nice to know that retaliation is close at hand.

    By the way, the most convenient target is right here, a few miles away from all of us! Pearl Harbor.

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    • #92
      Re: How serious is the nuclear threat from N. Korea?

      Originally posted by Composite 2992 View Post
      By the way, the most convenient target is right here, a few miles away from all of us! Pearl Harbor.
      But you gotta remember, Hawaii will be considered "collateral damage" since it's so isolated from the rest of CONUS.

      Plus if North Korea turns the Hawaiian Islands into atolls, that takes care of what to do with the entire Monarchy overthrow doesn't it.

      I can see it now, headline reads: Hawaiian Islands reduced to coral reefs as North Korea targets Pearl Harbor with direct Nuclear hits.

      In related news, the president of the United States gives what's left of Hawaii back to the natives saying it was all a mistake in the first place.
      Life is what you make of it...so please read the instructions carefully.

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      • #93
        Re: How serious is the nuclear threat from N. Korea?

        Originally posted by Composite 2992 View Post
        By the way, the most convenient target is right here, a few miles away from all of us! Pearl Harbor.
        Actually the most convenient target is Guam - easy distance from the DPRK and with plenty of US military bases, etc.

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        • #94
          Re: How serious is the nuclear threat from N. Korea?

          Originally posted by glossyp View Post
          Actually the most convenient target is Guam - easy distance from the DPRK and with plenty of US military bases, etc.
          Yeah but the US didn't overthrow Guam (yet). Having Hawaii wiped off the face of the Earth makes it quite convenient for the US not having to deal with returning it. Can't return something that's not there.
          Life is what you make of it...so please read the instructions carefully.

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          • #95
            Re: How serious is the nuclear threat from N. Korea?

            Originally posted by craigwatanabe View Post
            Yeah but the US didn't overthrow Guam (yet). Having Hawaii wiped off the face of the Earth makes it quite convenient for the US not having to deal with returning it. Can't return something that's not there.
            Tell that to the Chamoru nation.

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            • #96
              Re: How serious is the nuclear threat from N. Korea?

              Seems that the White House's assertion that North Korea had embarked on a major uranium enrichment effort that would result in nuclear bombs might have been "slightly exaggerated". More faulty intelligence? Is this similar to the intell we have gotten about Iran and its nuclear capability?

              Miulang
              "Americans believe in three freedoms. Freedom of speech; freedom of religion; and the freedom to deny the other two to folks they don`t like.” --Mark Twain

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              • #97
                Re: How serious is the nuclear threat from N. Korea?

                Originally posted by Miulang View Post
                Seems that the White House's assertion that North Korea had embarked on a major uranium enrichment effort that would result in nuclear bombs might have been "slightly exaggerated". More faulty intelligence? Is this similar to the intell we have gotten about Iran and its nuclear capability?

                Miulang
                It's sad when you have to decide whether your government is grossly incompetent or incompetently misrepresenting the facts.

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                • #98
                  Re: How serious is the nuclear threat from N. Korea?

                  Not surprised.

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                  • #99
                    Re: How serious is the nuclear threat from N. Korea?

                    ....as the Iranians ask 'how serious is the nuclear threat from the US?...
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                    • Re: How serious is the nuclear threat from N. Korea?

                      It's one thing to deprive North Korea's leader Kim Il Jong of his women, fine scotch, Cuban cigars and overseas bank accounts, but it's a whole 'nother thing for any of the world's governments to embargo rice shipments and starve his citizens because Beloved Leader is not following an agreed upon timeline to shut down N. Korea's nuclear reactors.

                      What did the average North Korean citizen ever do to any other nation in the world? It's not the average citizen who is driving their "Beloved Leader" into the nuclear arms race. The average North Korean citizen is already malnourished and poor. To cut off rice supplies---their most important staple---is tantamount to torture and genocide.

                      And then again, why would the South Korean government want to harm their own relatives to the North? It wouldn't surprise me in the least if this plan was suggested by our very own government.

                      Making the availability of food to innocent civilians conditional on what their government does is cruel and inhumane. If the South Korean and US governments think that by starving the average North Korean citizen that they will rise and overthrow the current regime, I think they are being overly optimistic. When you're starving to death, you have NO ENERGY to do more than lie on the ground to conserve energy.

                      In order to thaw the Cold War, the US and Canada could very easily have banned wheat shipments to Russia to get the Russian government to capitulate, but fortunately, we never had to resort to that tactic.

                      Miulang
                      "Americans believe in three freedoms. Freedom of speech; freedom of religion; and the freedom to deny the other two to folks they don`t like.” --Mark Twain

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                      • Re: How serious is the nuclear threat from N. Korea?

                        In the past, think good old Kim had diverted food shipments to himself and his army. Considering the US just unfroze $25 mil stuck in a Macau bank back to NK, guess the next available leverage to prod NK along in shutting down the reactor is withholding food and energy.

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                        • Re: How serious is the nuclear threat from N. Korea?

                          Originally posted by joshuatree View Post
                          In the past, think good old Kim had diverted food shipments to himself and his army. Considering the US just unfroze $25 mil stuck in a Macau bank back to NK, guess the next available leverage to prod NK along in shutting down the reactor is withholding food and energy.
                          I just don't think starving the North Koreans further will make Kim Il Jong do anything more quickly. He's way too egomaniacal and self-centered to care about anyone but himself and his own reputation. If South Korea does embargo the rice, I'm sure he'll use that as an excuse to go before the press to proclaim that South Korea is causing irreparable harm to his people (I know that's hypocritical because he's been doing exactly the same thing, but when your whole world is about satisfying only yourself, small considerations like that don't seem to count).

                          Miulang
                          "Americans believe in three freedoms. Freedom of speech; freedom of religion; and the freedom to deny the other two to folks they don`t like.” --Mark Twain

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                          • Re: How serious is the nuclear threat from N. Korea?

                            Originally posted by Miulang View Post
                            I just don't think starving the North Koreans further will make Kim Il Jong do anything more quickly. He's way too egomaniacal and self-centered to care about anyone but himself and his own reputation. If South Korea does embargo the rice, I'm sure he'll use that as an excuse to go before the press to proclaim that South Korea is causing irreparable harm to his people (I know that's hypocritical because he's been doing exactly the same thing, but when your whole world is about satisfying only yourself, small considerations like that don't seem to count).

                            Miulang
                            Problem is, if the food shipments don't reach the NK people anyway, vis-a-vis, Kim's diverting of food to the army, what's the point of continuing to ship food to NK?

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                            • Re: How serious is the nuclear threat from N. Korea?

                              Originally posted by joshuatree View Post
                              Problem is, if the food shipments don't reach the NK people anyway, vis-a-vis, Kim's diverting of food to the army, what's the point of continuing to ship food to NK?
                              Maybe we need to figure out a way to get the rice to the people and totally bypass the government. Wonder if NGOs can operate in that country?

                              Miulang
                              "Americans believe in three freedoms. Freedom of speech; freedom of religion; and the freedom to deny the other two to folks they don`t like.” --Mark Twain

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                              • Re: How serious is the nuclear threat from N. Korea?

                                Originally posted by Miulang View Post
                                Maybe we need to figure out a way to get the rice to the people and totally bypass the government. Wonder if NGOs can operate in that country?

                                Miulang
                                That's the obstacle other nations have been trying to figure out. NK's effectively closed the door on everyone, NGOs included. Those allowed to tour get directed to propaganda sites, etc.

                                Maybe just have bombers drop rice, almost like tossing money out the window and the crowd goes wild.

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