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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalihiboy View Post
    Didnt they have two Beard Papa stores in Waikiki, one inside the Food Pantry store and the other near the Lewers Beachwalk area?? Are they both closed now??
    Both long gone.

    Beard Papa Hawaii's website now lists only one location: inside the Ala Moana Foodland. That's it.

    Talk about a business idea that flopped. I hope that whoever paid for the Hawaii franchise didn't invest their life-savings on it.
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    Erika reports Colony in the Hyatt Regency is closing:

    http://www.staradvertiser.com/busine....html#comments

    From year one, this was our go-to place for anniversaries - just the two of us. But at some point, other things began to siphon our dollars elsewhere. We did stop in for a nostaligia dinner a couple of years ago, but sadly the place was nearly empty and the longtime server was lamenting the lack of business. Although unspoken, I think we both had the feeling that would be our last time there.

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    Makino Chaya at Aloha Tower......Gone
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    That Indian restaurant on N. King, Zaffron, shut a month or so ago. Never ate there though.. In its place? I suspicious looking "bar' with no bar and just a pool table in the middle of the room and an "open:" sign outside..

    I really really miss that Indian place takeaway on Alakea St. that closed last year across from FHB building. Now in it's place is a Thai takeaway which has good pad see yew, but I fear they may be on the skids soon as "all" lunch dishes are $5.00 now (down from the $6.50+ range).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimo View Post
    From year one, this was our go-to place for anniversaries - just the two of us.
    This happened to me and my wife, too. Whatcha gonna do...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimo View Post
    Don Ho's MIA - an Erika report:
    Don Ho's owner says that the restaurant is not finished and that he plans to re-open. However, it may resurface with a new name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie's Market View Post
    Don Ho's owner says that the restaurant is not finished and that he plans to re-open. However, it may resurface with a new name.

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    The current owner had either little or no restaurant experience. I, too, have no restaurant experience but I smell a bankruptcy in the not too distant future! One can only burn so many bridges in Hawaii. Time will tell...

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    The owner of Don Ho's Grill is facing a state investigation for unpaid wages.

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    This is really beginning to look bad. Don Ho's estate should terminate any relationship it still has with this restaurant,.... not the least of which are the rights to the late entertainer's name and image.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie's Market View Post
    Don Ho's estate should terminate any relationship it still has with this restaurant,.... not the least of which are the rights to the late entertainer's name and image.
    For which they get... $500 per month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie's Market View Post
    [...]
    This is really beginning to look bad.[...]
    It is bad. I have close friends who are owed money. Let the karma begin for this owner.

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    As KITV reports, times have been tough, not just for Don Ho's Grill, but for all the Aloha Tower Marketplace tenants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie's Market View Post
    As KITV reports, times have been tough, not just for Don Ho's Grill, but for all the Aloha Tower Marketplace tenants.
    Interesting. The piece mentions that ATM's prospective new owner is the owner(s?) of the Edition Hotel. Rumor has it that new hotel is struggling.

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    ATM has been one of the worst (if not the worst) places for many many years, with tenant rates so high that it's a constant revolving door.
    In addition to outrageous rates, add in problems with parking and marketing that have been going on for many years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LikaNui View Post
    ATM has been one of the worst (if not the worst) places for many many years, with tenant rates so high that it's a constant revolving door.
    Actually, the very worst place for retail is here.

    If Aloha Tower was a "revolving door," then Dole Cannery was D.O.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by LikaNui View Post
    In addition to outrageous rates, add in problems with parking and marketing that have been going on for many years.
    More to the point,.... Aloha Tower was heavily dependant on cruiseship passengers and Japan Travel Bureau clients for foot traffic. The departure of JTB's trolley station for Ala Moana Center, the bankruptcy of American Classic Voyages, and the reduction of Norweigian Cruise Line's fleet,... it doesn't take an MBA from Harvard to realize that all these developments spelled disaster for the marketplace and its tenants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie's Market View Post
    More to the point,.... Aloha Tower was heavily dependant on cruiseship passengers and Japan Travel Bureau clients for foot traffic.
    Something I read some months back is that ATM was depending on adjoining development for parking - the development never happened.

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    Kind of off topic, but;

    I wonder if gambling could have saved those NCL cruises? More than one passenger was surprised and disappointed to find out there were no casinos.

    Heard the ships they pulled out of here went to Florida and immediately had casinos installed.

    The missionaries are smiling down! No casinos here.

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    When the ship was refitted for service as Pride of Aloha, a Hawaiian theme was adapted for the decorations of all public areas and cabins. At the same time she received hull art consisting of colorful Hawaiian leis.

    Prior to being rechristened, the Pride of Aloha was not allowed to have a casino given the fact that it was mainly in US waters. Instead of a casino, the ship had the Kumu Cultural Center. This focused on 3 main themes - Everyday life in Ancient Hawai`i, the Hawaiian Kingdom and Contemporary Hawai'i.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    Kind of off topic, but;

    I wonder if gambling could have saved those NCL cruises? More than one passenger was surprised and disappointed to find out there were no casinos.

    Heard the ships they pulled out of here went to Florida and immediately had casinos installed.
    Oh, no question. Shipboard gaming can only help (not hurt) the cruise industry, the tenants at ATM, and of course, provide a much needed boost for the state's depleted tax coffers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    The missionaries are smiling down! No casinos here.
    I'm not so sure about that. Smiling up, maybe? Some of those missionaries stole a lot of land while they were alive, y'know.

    In the meantime, the prospective buyer for the ATM receives preliminary approval from the state to proceed with its plan.

    KITVhttp://www.kitv.com/video/28542856/detail.html

    Few details about the redevelopment were divulged, although venders and others close to the talks say there will be a major effort to try and attract local residents to the area and to find a solution to the limited parking. Some say the long term marketplace potential is how it might dovetail with the city's rail plans.
    I don't know if there's much that can be done about the parking, seeing as there's no place to build a parking garage. Irwin Park has already been ruled out. Even if you can find a location to build an above or underground parking garage, I can't imagine such a lot being free, for obvious reasons. Locals hate paying for parking when they go out for a night on the town. Even 90-120 minute validations from the restaurants make them hesistant, when they can park with far fewer restrictions at places like Ala Moana and Ward Centre.

    And even if the rail gets built, it remains to be seen if an appreciable number of locals will use that system at night. Judging by TheBus' ridership during the evening hours, I wouldn't hold my breath expecting a whole bunch of locals hopping on the rail to go out for a family dinner at Aloha Tower.

    No, the new buyer of ATM had better concentrate on attracting the tourist market.
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    Here is an article that outlines some of ATM's history. If I understand it correctly, the ATM was part of a bigger plan that never worked out. That failure (which included parking) could well be blamed for ATM's current problems.

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    According to Erika's breaking news at this link, Lucy's Grill & Bar in Kailua is closing tonight.
    I've eaten there a few times. Food was okay, but it was the noisiest restaurant I've ever eaten in. After the first time inside, I always tried to eat outside on the front lanai.
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    For those who eat downtown, the renovation of the Tardus Financial Plaza building is likely to close a number of the vendors. Lee & Li has been one of my favorite places. I wonder if they've found a new place.

    Buddhist center displaces downtown eateries

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    Quote Originally Posted by LikaNui View Post
    According to Erika's breaking news at this link, Lucy's Grill & Bar in Kailua is closing tonight.
    I've eaten there a few times. Food was okay, but it was the noisiest restaurant I've ever eaten in.
    Their problem was, to quote Yogi Berra: It's so crowded, nobody goes there anymore.
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    Lee's Korean Bbq in Temple Valley Shopping Center is closed.

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    Something old. Another one bites the dust. Pee Wee Drive-In, at the corner of King and Punahou, is closed for good. A local landmark for almost 50 years, it was one of those “old school” plate lunch hole-in-the-wall. Wonder what’s going to take its place.
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    From Jim Dooley @ Hawaii Reporter. Shack Waikiki in trouble:

    http://www.hawaiireporter.com/shack-...ng-closure/123

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