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    Ok, I wondered. I read on some MMA sites that the talks have fell thru. Dana was bad mouthing Pride about not coming to terms and stuff. There really shouldn't be much negotiating except for money. Silva is familiar with UFC rules both before dont kick the head rule and after.

    I really wanted this fight since the shamrock fight sucked @$$. I'm excited about BJ taking on Hughes. I think BJ has a great chance if he keeps his conditioning up. I'm going for BJ this fight.
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    I gotta agree with Kealii!!! I got excited when I heard the announcement the BJ was gonna take on Hughes. Bj's striking is far superior to Hughes, and his Jiu-Jitsu is insane. Definately looking forward to da bruddah from Hilo taking it!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kealiinaauao
    Ok, I wondered. I read on some MMA sites that the talks have fell thru. Dana was bad mouthing Pride about not coming to terms and stuff. There really shouldn't be much negotiating except for money. .
    Hahaha. But that's a significant roadblock right there. Doesn't Pride pay uku-plenty and UFC pay manini-smallkine?

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    Actually, your right 'hungry.' I was listening to an interview at work online with josh barnett, and he said that he got paid more in 1 fight for pride than the whole time he was at UFC.

    But I don't think that's fair, especially since MMA was a relatively new thing back in 93 to 02. MMA was under siege by the likes of opportunistic politicans hoping to make themselves the good guys by banning the sport. And the UFC just started becoming profitable because of accepting regulation and legal issues that exist here in the US. In Japan, there's no such obstacles that need to be overcome. Japan and Brazil had these no holds barred fights as well as mixed martial arts fighting well before this concept caught on in the US. So the UFC is getting bigger and able to get new viewership.

    But for right now, Pride is definitely more of a cash cow then UFC. But time will tell.
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    well hopefully they can finance the pay differences or the fighters could make a sacrifice to get things going.

    it would be great if liddell vs silva fight could happen.

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    Silva just got his head split open by Cro-Cop at the Pride Open-Weight Grand Prix. There is going to be some time before he heals up which means the Silva-Liddell match, even if it does happen, won't happen for quite a while.

    Couple of videos of this floating around. Cro-Cop did a good job keeping the fight on the feet and controlling distance, effectively rendering Silva's Muy Thai useless.

    Props to Cro-Cop. Always the bridesmaid, now the bride.
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    Default Where to watch the BJ Penn fight on the 23rd?

    Anyone know of any public venues that will be ordering the PPV UFC Card on the 23rd Featuring Hilo's own BJ Penn taking on Matt Hughes for the UFC Championship?

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    Hooters. Don't know if you got one tho'
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    We have a "Hooters" at aloha tower...

    However, does anyone know someplace else where I could actually pay attention to the fight instead of the Hooters

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    Manoa;

    Best bet is to contact a local gym and find out.

    However, my sources tell me Round Table Pizza in Waikiki or Eastside Grill on University. These are unconfirmed. Check it out..............

    Oh..............get there early, like B4 2 PM, you know it is going to be packed.

    Hooters rocks by the way............
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    To add a little fuel to the fire.

    http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ap...609200333/1032

    What does everyone think about the undercard??

    Mike Swick (11-1) vs. David Loiseau (15-5) Standup I give it to Mike. On the ground, David has some sick elbows. Plus David has that spinning back kick to the liver move down pat. Should be interesting

    Jason Lambert (22-5) vs. Rashad Evans (9-0) I actually like Lambert in this one. He is battle tested and has a 8 match win streak going. Evans is legit on his feet but he has not shown he has knockout power.

    Jens Pulver (21-6-1) vs. Joe Lauzon (12-3): I like Jens in this one, nice standup, he beat BJ back in 2002. Plus the Kauai connection.

    Gabe Ruediger (10-2) vs. Melvin Guillard (38-6-3). Melvin, 1st round TKO

    Roger Huerta (14-1-1) vs. Jason Dent (12-6): Both making their UFC debuts. Don't know much about these guys..........

    Mario Neto (9-3) vs. Eddie Sanchez (7-0): Sanchez, only because I know someone who trains with him.

    Danny Abbadi (2-2) vs. Jorge Gurgel (12-1)- If Jorge can keep his hands up and listen to his corner, he will overcome Danny on the ground. If not, Danny will blast him into next week.

    David Lee (5-1) vs. Tyson Griffin (7-0). The British are coming, the British are coming. Lee, submission specialist versus Tyson, brute force. Tossup.....

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    There is only one fight worth any importance to me...

    GO BJ!

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    BJ and Matt were on the Adam Carrola show this morning. Hughes was in studio. BJ called in............. BJ was relaxed, talked about missing his flight to the mainland cuz he was in the water surfing. He talked about not training professionally, only training to be happy.

    Some say that BJ is not taking this match serious.

    Some say that this is just mind games so Hughes will alter his gameplan AKA not take risks and grind it out to a decision.

    In a previous interview, BJ did say that the loss to GSP was due to him overtraining. He said for the Hughes match, he went back to the training regimen that he had for his first victory.

    Just the messenger here, everything prior to the fight means nothing, what happens in the ring means everything. This will be a good match. Hoping for BJ but not confident enough to put money on it............
    Last edited by nachodaddy; September 20th, 2006 at 10:02 AM. Reason: added BJ's comment

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    Just got back from watching the fight...........

    BJ is the most talented, gifted MMA magician currently in the game. His standup is exemplary, his takedown defense is superb, and his BJJ is without peer..................

    EXCEPT when he gasses. He had Hughes in both rounds 1 and 2. Had Hughes turning purple at the end of 2.........Hughes saved by the bell...........BJ got nothing in the tank to start round 3.........Hughes gets the takedown and then side control........traps an arm..........and beats BJ senseless.......ref stoppage........Hughes by TKO.

    BJ was on the mat for over a minute before he was helped up and sat on a stool...........then he needed help out of the ring.........no premature stoppage.......Hughes would have killed him...........BJ has no defense.

    Oh, Hughes is still an * hole with the post fight comments, however he still has the belt.

    It was a pleasure to watch BJ work his magic for two rounds, sucks it ended this way.

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    thanks for the update nacho...

    I did predict that Hughes would take him out...Post #64
    Hate to say this... but I think Hughes will take Big Island bad boy BJ Penn out.
    But in my Heart I wanted him to win!
    It's ok... I'm sure he took home a good check that will help him with his pending legal troubles. http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar.../sp/sp01p.html

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    There is a rumor circulating throughout the fight underground that BJ seperated a rib late in the 2nd while trying to submit Matt. So far just rumor...

    .....but it makes sense. BJ looked like a corpse coming out of his corner in the third. Total meltdown. Being the proud owner of a permanently floating rib, I can tell ya that when it happened, it hurt like heck and it was very, very difficult to breathe through it. Not getting any air is going to throw your game off fer sure.

    Not an excuse, Hughes won the fight, but this helps explains things a little better.
    Last edited by nachodaddy; September 24th, 2006 at 07:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nachodaddy

    Oh, Hughes is still an * hole with the post fight comments, however he still has the belt.

    It was a pleasure to watch BJ work his magic for two rounds, sucks it ended this way.

    Agreed. Hughes should have been more gracious in victory caused he could have easily lost to Penn. Had Penn a little more stamina, he would've beaten Hughes again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nachodaddy
    There is a rumor circulating throughout the fight underground that BJ seperated a rib late in the 2nd while trying to submit Matt. So far just rumor...

    .....

    Wow, that explains a lot.

    If they were to fight again, what little money I have would be on Penn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keanu
    Wow, that explains a lot.

    If they were to fight again, what little money I have would be on Penn.
    Was not comfortable with betting on Penn this time even at +175.

    Made money on Guillard, Sanchez and and Griffin. The undercard.

    Lost money by betting on The Crow, Pulver, and Lambert.

    Overall, lost a little coin.......

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    Smile BJ Penn

    I was cheering for BJ, but that 3rd round was just terrible.

    Originally Posted by nachodaddy

    Oh, Hughes is still an * hole with the post fight comments, however he still has the belt.
    I have to disagree with this. Hughes isn't an * hole. Matt is always gracious in victory just look at his previous fights with gracie, trigg, newton, and sherk. Penn was the one that was acting like wanderlei silva. But if someone was pushing my buttons and not even giving respects, then heck yah I'd put an exlamation mark on my victory by telling everyone that I won.

    But Matt isn't like that at all. He's very humble. He was asked by the UFC to talk some trash to hype any fight that he gets. Even what GSP said, was uncharacteristic of him, he was just trying to hype the next fight up. Kinda like Ali.

    Anyways, I liked swick altho he gassed in the last round. I really like Guillard, he's a fighter that should get the winner of the florian/ sherk fight.

    'nuff said.
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    U right nachos!

    September 12th, 2006 12:28 AM
    Originally posted by nachosdaddy

    Cro-Cop did a good job keeping the fight on the feet and controlling distance, effectively rendering Silva's Muy Thai useless.
    Funny thing is, I thought at first CroCop was afraid of getting punched or what not. But then as I continued watching, it appeared CroCop was more precise with his strikes while silva wanted to throw for the fences. I think for silva melee fighting is more his style. Since CroCop is more specific with his strikes he avoided an all out punch fest with silva, which I think is very smart. He picked apart silva like he was some dude off the street.

    Good fight, too bad about BJ. ‘nuff said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nachodaddy
    Liddell is toast.......
    hardly....I suspect the fight will never take place since Silva got the fudge knocked out of him in his last bout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kealiinaauao
    Actually, your right 'hungry.' I was listening to an interview at work online with josh barnett, and he said that he got paid more in 1 fight for pride than the whole time he was at UFC.

    But I don't think that's fair, especially since MMA was a relatively new thing back in 93 to 02. MMA was under siege by the likes of opportunistic politicans hoping to make themselves the good guys by banning the sport. And the UFC just started becoming profitable because of accepting regulation and legal issues that exist here in the US. In Japan, there's no such obstacles that need to be overcome. Japan and Brazil had these no holds barred fights as well as mixed martial arts fighting well before this concept caught on in the US. So the UFC is getting bigger and able to get new viewership.

    But for right now, Pride is definitely more of a cash cow then UFC. But time will tell.
    K-1 is the same as PRIDE! They pay more because of where they take place mostly(Japan).

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    Post Ribs and BJ

    Posted on Sherdog.com

    http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=5705

    The ribs on the right side of B.J. Penn (Pictures)'s body were injured while he seized UFC champion Matt Hughes (Pictures)' back in the second round of Saturday's title fight, the welterweight challenger revealed on his Web site, BJPenn.com, late Sunday
    I didn't believe this theory mentioned above cuz shamrock pulled the same thing. But now that BJ has officially come out and say what was wrong, now the 3rd round is more believable. Unable to breathe and get strength from the core is crucial in MMA. Everything comes from the core. But BJ is one tuff SOB, I kept watching the fight to see a wince or even an indication that his ribs were hurting, but he didn't show it. What a warrior.

    'nuff said.
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    Posted on Sherdog.com

    http://www.bjpenn.com/

    The ribs on the right side of B.J. Penn body were injured while he seized UFC champion Matt Hughes back in the second round of Saturday's title fight, the welterweight challenger revealed on his Web site, BJPenn.com, late Sunday
    I didn't believe this theory mentioned above cuz shamrock pulled the same thing. But now that BJ has officially come out and say what was wrong, now the 3rd round is more believable. Unable to breathe and get strength from the core is crucial in MMA. Everything comes from the core. But BJ is one tuff SOB, I kept watching the fight to see a wince or even an indication that his ribs were hurting, but he didn't show it. What a warrior.

    'nuff said.
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