Puerto Rican Immigration To Hawaii

[Jomundo_d]

Racial Profiling?

people who fit your grandparents profile would be known around the local PR communities. Are you comfortable sharing their names to strangers you meet on the internet? If they were still living, how old would they be?

Many of us still live in communities with "six degrees of integration".

I am not aware of some of the titles given to different groups in Hawaii. I also do not know what is meant by "six degrees of integration". I suspect that it has to do with mixtures of people. Please remember that I am a uerto Rican, and as such am aware of the mixings of peoples. I do not want to be considered foreign to Hawaiian mores, they are the same as the mores of my ancestral home. By the way it seems that I have been promoted. Again I do not know what my neww designation means.

[helen]

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By the way it seems that I have been promoted. Again I do not know what my neww designation means.

The designation is based on the number of post you made. Once you have made your 20th post you went from Keiki to Haumana and you will be that way until you make your 50th post at which time you become Kanaka. Below is the rank based on the number of posts.

Keiki: 0 posts
Haumana: 20 posts
Kanaka: 50 posts
Luna: 100 posts
Kia`aina: 200 posts
Kumu: 400 posts
Ali`i: 800 posts

Now as to what those ranks mean, zztype posted it here (sort of long to quote it in this post).

[Jomundo_d]

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The designation is based on the number of post you made. Once you have made your 20th post you went from Keiki to Haumana and you will be that way until you make your 50th post at which time you become Kanaka. Below is the rank based on the number of posts.


Now as to what those ranks mean, zztype posted it here (sort of long to quote it in this post).

Thanks for the info Helen, but what I really want to know is, what does haumana mean? I also would like to know what "six degrees of integration" means. I always thought integration was a part of Hawaiian culture just as it is in Puerto Rico.

[Jomundo_d]

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Howzit Jomundo, have you had any more luck with finding any information on your search? Send me a PM. I have been into genealogy for about 15 years. Wouldn't mind helping you out.

I have just received pages from the book "Borinquen a Hawaii" which list the names of Puerto Ricans who arrived in Hawaii. Unfortunately My grandparents' names were not included. I can only guess from this that they got off the train from Louisiana to San Francisco. Does anyone know of any existing record that shows where the train stopped along the way?

[Miulang]

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Bummers! I found the following little bit of information about the probable railroad company that took your grandparents from New Orleans to Denver (Missouri Pacific Railway):

"In 1872 the line was reorganized as the Missouri Pacific Railway, and in 1879 it came under the control of New York financier Jay Gould, who developed a system extending through Colorado, Nebraska, Arkansas, Texas, and Louisiana. In 1917 the line was merged with the St. Louis, Iron Mountain and Southern Railway Company and reorganized as the Missouri Pacific Railroad. Later it acquired other lines in the Gulf area and in Texas, extending its operating area to several Midwestern and Southwestern states. ..."

And I'm sure from Colorado they took Union Pacific to get to the West Coast. But there's just sooooo much territory between New Orleans and the West Coast it might take you awhile to figure out all the cities along the railway route.

Good luck!

Miulang

P.S. One logical place to look is in the Omaha, NE area because that's where many of the train lines intersected. There are at least 292 Rodriguez in the Omaha area in the area and 4 Juarbes in the area. Use this link to track those down.

[Jomundo_d]

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[QUOTE=Miulang]Bummers! I found the following little bit of information about the probable railroad company that took your grandparents from New Orleans to Denver (Missouri Pacific Railway):

"In 1872 the line was reorganized as the Missouri Pacific Railway, and in 1879 it came under the control of New York financier Jay Gould, who developed a system extending through Colorado, Nebraska, Arkansas, Texas, and Louisiana. In 1917 the line was merged with the St. Louis, Iron Mountain and Southern Railway Company and reorganized as the Missouri Pacific Railroad. Later it acquired other lines in the Gulf area and in Texas, extending its operating area to several Midwestern and Southwestern states. ..."

Thank you Miulang. I appreciate the information, it should keep me busy for a while. I will report as I go along.

[Miulang]

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Here are some of the old Missouri Pacific depots in Kansas:
Liberal, Kansas: Rock Island Depot
Neodesha, Kansas: Frisco Caboose Museum
Marysville, Kansas: City Park Historic Displays
Caldwell, Kansas: Caldwell Railroads
Stafford, Kansas: Santa Fe Depot
Waterville, Kansas: Waterville Depot
Baldwin City, Kansas: The Midland Historic Railroad
McPherson, Kansas: Model Railroad Layouts
Lawrence, Kansas: Depot and Visitors Center
Baldwin City, Kansas: The Historic Santa Fe Depot

There are a bunch of Juarbes and Rodriguez in the Denver area, too. According to the White Pages, there's a Tomasa Rodriguez in Kansas City, KS. I don't know how common the name "Tomasa" is, though. Juarbe is unique enough a last name (as opposed to Rodriguez) that there can't be many around.
Oh! I also found a "Vilmarie Rodriguez-Jurabe" who graduated in 2000 from the Kansas State University College of Veterinary Medicine.

Miulang

[Jomundo_d]

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Just to keep everyone advised as to what I have been doing. I have written several letters to people and organizations that I thought might help. I received copies of the list of Puerto Ricans who arrived in Hawaii, according to the book by Blase Camacho Souza. I have also written to several states in the hope that they may have information about Puerto Ricans getting off the train in their neck of the woods. I wrote to some persons with the last name Rodriguez in the hopes that they may know something. So far answers are slow in coming. Hopefully I will hear something soon.

[Jomundo_d]

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Hello everyone. Just a short note to tell everyone of a new wrinkle in my search. I received information through another thread that a family bearing the names Rodriguez and Juarbe settled in a plantation on the Island ot Kauai. I do not know how to verify this information. Is there anyone out there that can help?

[Miulang]

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This is not directly related to your grandaprents, but this family may have travelled to Kauai at the same time your grandparents did and ended up at Koloa Plantation on Kauai.

I would also suggest you get in touch with the local Mormon church in your area. The Church of the Latter Day Saints have the most detailed genealogical archives of many of the world's families.

Miulang

P.S. You could also try to contact the organizers of the Koloa Plantation Days to see if they have lists of the former workers or the Kauai Historical Society.

[Jomundo_d]

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This is not directly related to your grandaprents, but this family may have travelled to Kauai at the same time your grandparents did and ended up at Koloa Plantation on Kauai.

I would also suggest you get in touch with the local Mormon church in your area. The Church of the Latter Day Saints have the most detailed genealogical archives of many of the world's families.

Miulang

P.S. You could also try to contact the organizers of the Koloa Plantation Days to see if they have lists of the former workers or the Kauai Historical Society.

Miulang: I clicked on to "This Family" and came up with a news article abour a Morris Family reunion which mentioned a Rodriguez family. I sent an Email to the Newspaper in the hope that they will contact that family for me. I am in your debt. It was a light at the end of a very dark tunnel....Jomundo_d

[Miulang]

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Miulang: I clicked on to "This Family" and came up with a news article abour a Morris Family reunion which mentioned a Rodriguez family. I sent an Email to the Newspaper in the hope that they will contact that family for me. I am in your debt. It was a light at the end of a very dark tunnel....Jomundo_d

I hope this does finally lead you to your grandparents. The Internet is an amazing thing.

Miulang

[*pinao*]

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Hey just wanted to say that Im of Puerto Rican heritage.. nice to see another one here

[Jomundo_d]

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Hey just wanted to say that Im of Puerto Rican heritage.. nice to see another one here

I don't know what you mean by "nice to see another one here". I gather that you are in Canada. If you mean by "being here" as being in Hawaii. I am not in Hawaii. In any case I am glad to run into another Puerto Rican, even if I am neither in Canada or Hawaii.

[Erika Engle]

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This isn't specifically Boricua ... but these folks, or people they know, may be of some help.

http://www.centrohispanohawaii.com/