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    Why is it such BIG news in the media whenever it rains on O'ahu? The local news on TV have started thier news with a thunderstorm. Is it because O'ahu has no drainage now and a storm floods them out ? The other islands(including Kauai) hardly get coverage when we have storms. It makes O'ahu people seem like BIG babies because of a little rain. I can remember as a child in Hilo having 3 or 4 days of HEAVY rain and it's no BIG deal.
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    Maybe Oahu Needs More Sand From Maui!!!!!
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    I don't know if any of you get the Weather Channel in Hawai'i, (throughever which means) but even they have gotten into the act of reporting the recent rains than have fallen on O'ahu.

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    Usually the light rains that come and go for Oahu don't get mentioned other than the weather reports. But rain storms that makes the US Weather Service to issue flash flood warnings tend to get more press after the event, even more so if the storm caused damage.

    Something else I noticed. I grew up on Kauai during the 1960's to mid-70's and went to the Hilo for college during the late 70's. And been living here on Oahu since 1979. During my time on Kauai we would get thunderstorms on the average once a year. I don't remember any thunderstorms during my time in Hilo. The 1980's I think Oahu would get a thunderstorm once a year but latey in the last few years thunderstorms are more frequent maybe 6 or more times a year.

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    When I visit the AF's family in Kane`ohe, one phrase I've gotten used to hearing in all the weather forecasts is "Windward chance of mauka showers." Every day.

    But the latest storms - whoo! Did the Earth's air currents shift direction when I wasn't looking, and now we send a reverse Pineapple Express from Seattle to Hawai`i?

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    Rain has been hitting Oahu alot more then before.
    I grew up in Kipapa Gulch and remember the wet weather out there.
    I was telling my friend long time Maui neva get rain like Oahu...
    Believe me we`d be worse off then Oahu. Mahalo Akua!!!!


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    O'ahu's storms get so much media attention because that's where most of the people in the state live, so more viewers are affected. And also because the landscape is so densely populated that a heavy storm will cause more traffic jams, more utility disruptions, and more property damage. And yes, poor drainage is an issue too. Good drainage requires enough money and enough space, both of which are in short supply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oggboy
    Rain has been hitting Oahu alot more then before.
    I grew up in Kipapa Gulch and remember the wet weather out there.
    I was telling my friend long time Maui neva get rain like Oahu...
    Believe me we`d be worse off then Oahu. Mahalo Akua!!!!
    Hui OggBoy: I know what you mean! Everytime the rest of the island chain gets hammered by bad weather, Maui always seems to avoid getting the brunt of it. Mahalo ke akua for sure. Now the people of Maui have to take some lessons from the people of Oahu and try not to turn all the open space (which has natural drainage) into a concrete jungle or else Nature going solve the problem on her own! Actually, I think the earth is just headed into a time when there's more bad weather all over the planet...more hurricanes and other natural disasters. It's happened before and probably will happen again after this. In the meantime, everybody better know how to swim!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Miyashiro
    O'ahu's storms get so much media attention because that's where most of the people in the state live, so more viewers are affected. And also because the landscape is so densely populated that a heavy storm will cause more traffic jams, more utility disruptions, and more property damage. And yes, poor drainage is an issue too. Good drainage requires enough money and enough space, both of which are in short supply.
    i agree with the above reason, but also, don't forget the bottom line: rain on oahu gets covered because there are four news stations here with camera crews eager to roll on the footage which is literally falling right outside their doorstep. in other words it's easy pickings and on a slow day the weather can fill half your newscast.

    having said that, weather effects on the neighbor islands may be worse than oahu but that doesn't mean stations will spend money to fly a crew there (reporter and cameraperson) and come back just for a story or two. is it worth it? only if homes are flooded, people evacuated, and general chaos rules. sometimes a news director will pay some freelance video photographer to run around and get about an hour's worth of footage for them and send it via air cargo (which stations have to pay for also) that same day. that's not cheap either.

    so the moral of this story is, tv coverage of oahu weather easy and cheap, tv coverage of neighbor island weather more expensive and time consuming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Miyashiro
    O'ahu's storms get so much media attention because that's where most of the people in the state live, so more viewers are affected. And also because the landscape is so densely populated that a heavy storm will cause more traffic jams, more utility disruptions, and more property damage. And yes, poor drainage is an issue too. Good drainage requires enough money and enough space, both of which are in short supply.
    I guess the drainage is a BIG issue, because 25-30 years ago you would never hear "storm" news on TV, unless it came down a neighborhood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sin
    so the moral of this story is, tv coverage of oahu weather easy and cheap, tv coverage of neighbor island weather more expensive and time consuming.
    True dat.

    So which island gets its own local TV stations next, Maui or Hawai'i? Hawai'i has more people so it's a bigger market, but Maui is smaller in area so coverage would be cheaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alohabear
    I guess the drainage is a BIG issue, because 25-30 years ago you would never hear "storm" news on TV, unless it came down a neighborhood.

    With so much of Oahu's lands being paved over there's no place for the rain to percolate into the water tables beneath the streets and parking lots. Most of the rain simply washes down the cement canals and into the oceans...no wonder Oahu is short on water.

    Oahu's pretty much getting to be one big asphalt and cement slab with no place for the water to drain.

    Now here on the Big Island we've got the exact opposite. Our grounds are so porous that a major flood dissapates in minutes.

    I threw down three truckloads of topsoil onto my one acre cinder lot and within two major rainstorms, virtually all of the soil disappeared along with the grass seeds and the fertilizer, but boy my neighbor's adjacent lot is looking mighty green!

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigwatanabe
    With so much of Oahu's lands being paved over there's no place for the rain to percolate into the water tables beneath the streets and parking lots. Most of the rain simply washes down the cement canals and into the oceans...no wonder Oahu is short on water.

    Oahu's pretty much getting to be one big asphalt and cement slab with no place for the water to drain.

    Now here on the Big Island we've got the exact opposite. Our grounds are so porous that a major flood dissapates in minutes.

    I threw down three truckloads of topsoil onto my one acre cinder lot and within two major rainstorms, virtually all of the soil disappeared along with the grass seeds and the fertilizer, but boy my neighbor's adjacent lot is looking mighty green!
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    Eh, you guys made it on the national cable news! I saw some pretty impressive clips of the flooding on the Windward side on CNN this morning. They were interviewing Trini K (the guy really mangled her last name and now I can't remember what it is) from KHON this morning (around 5:30 a.m. your time). And it looks like you guys going continue to have the bad weather at least through Sunday. Odd that only Oahu and Kauai getting all that rain...

    I just hope the Pineapple Express doesn't send your rain up to us here! We get more than enough water already! The weatherpeople were also forecasting lotsa rain for California side, too. Wish there was some way for all that rain to just skip over the West Coast and land in the Midwest, where they really really need the moisture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miulang
    I saw some pretty impressive clips of the flooding on the Windward side on CNN this morning. They were interviewing Trini K (the guy really mangled her last name and now I can't remember what it is) from KHON
    Trini Kaopuiki. And I noticed that CNN called her a "meteorologist" though I'm not aware that she actually is one. Maybe she got her degree in the last year, but.
    She's the last person on the air here that I'd look to for weather info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miulang
    Eh, you guys made it on the national cable news! I saw some pretty impressive clips of the flooding on the Windward side on CNN this morning. [...]
    I just received an email from my daughter in SoCal asking if what she was seeing on the news was really true! Huh? She doesn't believe the news?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miulang
    Eh, you guys made it on the national cable news! I saw some pretty impressive clips of the flooding on the Windward side on CNN this morning.
    Some of the scenes that KHON captured were something else. Whole chunks of land surrendering to a swollen river, furniture floating in homes, the works. (Seems like most of the other stations stopped at the roadblocks.) Incredible, and terrible.

    It's not often you hear about neighborhoods like Ka`a`awa on the news, and of course when you do, it's rarely for anything good. Journalist and Ka`a`awa booster Ian Lind has been blogging and posting some photos of his own.

    It is interesting how the weather system is unusually confined to the Windward side. At the same moment the rain was coming down in buckets and taking away someone's backyard, there were patches of sun on the other side of the mountain.

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    The way that the storm just sat there reminded me of the New Years Flood of 1988, the one that scoured a deep gully down the middle of a street in one of the East Honolulu valleys. What was it, Kuliʻouʻou? Or maybe Hahaʻione? It's getting hard to remember that far back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Miyashiro
    The way that the storm just sat there reminded me of the New Years Flood of 1988, the one that scoured a deep gully down the middle of a street in one of the East Honolulu valleys. What was it, Kuli?ou?ou? Or maybe Haha?ione? It's getting hard to remember that far back.
    I believe it was both. I lived in Hawaii Kai, not far from Hahaione valley, at the time and was celebrating NYE at the Kahala Hilton. My kids were home from college and had gone their separate ways with friends. None of us could get past Aina Haina to get home nor were we allowed over the Pali. My oldest daughter decided she would walk from Aina Haina to HK to "save the dog". The cops turned her back a couple of blocks into her middle of the night walk. This was pre-cell phone days so none of us knew where or how the others were. Later on new years day HK residents were allowed to go home via the windward side. Holey moley, whatta war zone from HK to Kuliouou. The oceanfront homes in front of Times Supermarket were trashed by flash flooding and mud as were many of the canal front homes at the base of Hahaione valley and surrounding areas. My home sat above one of the canals, as in 10-12 steps from the top of the canal wall. The mud and water rose to almost even with my yard. Another few inches and my home would've been flooded. That was a very scary night. The dog was oblivious to all of it!

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    I remember that New Year's night. I was at home in Waialae Nui Valley when my cousin Allison and her date come knocking on our door soaking wet. They tell us the roads were washed out on their way home to Hawaii Kai and asked if they could stay for a short while.

    Man I remember the next few days seeing bulldozers moving mud as high as 6-feet high covering Kalanianaole Highway. My friend's home on Hahaione street was amazingly spared yet their driveway was totally demolished along with the street itself. It was as if an underground explosion ripped the entire length of that street. Simply amazing.

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    Rain, rain go away (and don't come up here because we don't need it either!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miulang
    Rain, rain go away (and don't come up here because we don't need it either!)

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    MAHALO AKU`A!!!
    Can imagine Maui with that much rain??? Eh, Miulang.... : OGGBOY

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    Quote Originally Posted by oggboy
    MAHALO AKU`A!!!
    Can imagine Maui with that much rain??? Eh, Miulang.... : OGGBOY
    Mahalo ke akua foa shuah! Everytime get heavy rain, Paukukalo,
    Waihee and Hana side always gets slammed. I really do think Maui is blessed by better weather than the other islands. No moa room to breathe because get too many peeps now, but get better weather!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miulang
    Mahalo ke akua foa shuah! Everytime get heavy rain, Paukukalo,
    Waihee and Hana side always gets slammed. I really do think Maui is blessed by better weather than the other islands. No moa room to breathe because get too many peeps now, but get better weather!

    Miulang
    Big time tita, we are fortunate all this wet weather pass us by. I still remember the time back in the late 70`s, we had one tropical storm and that was enough for see the tourist walking in ankle deep rain to the Airport on Dairy Rd.
    Unreal wuz, like I said one storm like that come our way, we in deep water. OGGBOY

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    Default Another day of flooding....

    **bump**

    After an hour-long attempt to get out, and only getting north of Wahiawa, I turned 'round and came home. Prayed, kicked in the 4 wheel drive, and drove/floated back down Waialua Beach Road. Thankfully, all family members are home, dry and safe.

    Hope our power stays on. I hear that lots of people have power outages.

    Y'all stay safe.

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