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  • #16
    Re: Aloha From Las Vegas

    manoasurfer, you're funny!

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    • #17
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      I don't want to talk down about someone else's city, but I know what you mean about LV. Got a friend in NY who wants to move out there really badly... I don't get it. Spent a few nights there and what I saw of the culture is basically 180 degrees from me. My in-laws live in Reno and we visit them once a year or so, same thing. Reno has some great outdoors stuff to do and it's a little quieter than LV, but it has a lot of the same problems. We're always hearing stories from them about the awful road rage, and other things I won't mention to keep the forums family friendly. Heck, my bro-in-law got stabbed at his job by a crazy guy once (luckily just his arm, in a repairable-with-stitches place), and he got punched out another time.

      "There are plenty of things money can buy in NV... for everything else there's Hawai'i."

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      • #18
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        Originally posted by manoasurfer123
        Funny thing... you find a lot of people in the islands who end up moving to Vegas
        I wonder if this has anything to do with the replica of The Waikiki International Marketplace they built in Vegas.

        http://www.vegas4locals.com/freehawa...rketplace.html
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        • #19
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          Hello and welcome to HT Hope!!!

          I am new on this board myself but so far so good.

          I am preparing for my move to Hawai'i by the end of the year right now. House should be going on the market in a few days and praying it sells fast. Will be taking the money from that to go buy a condo in HI, come back and pack the little I have left and get that one way ticket. I have been looking at the condo market over in HI for a over a year now and it's surely a good time to buy now since the market has slowed down over there and condo's are staying on the market longer than before.. and they are actually reducing prices... something unheard of a year ago.

          The plan is to sell everything, furniture and all. But I surely will be shipping my car and sending the rest by USPS.

          I feel you on the single situation. Good men are sooooo hard to find. But I am thankful that I have no kids or some man that will try to stop my dream right now. So, not having a man is good for me right now.

          I have plenty of friends over there waiting for me, so at least that will make my transition a little easier.

          I will suggest that you join the forum on hawaii.com as well. Lot's of great people and a lot of us on there are moving to HI and encouraging each other through the process.

          You can email me from my profile, if you like. I have plenty of info I can share.

          Aloha
          Last edited by Queenolu; August 24, 2006, 08:08 AM.
          Tayo

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          • #20
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            I don't want to talk down about someone else's city, but I know what you mean about LV. Got a friend in NY who wants to move out there really badly... I don't get it. Spent a few nights there and what I saw of the culture is basically 180 degrees from me. My in-laws live in Reno and we visit them once a year or so, same thing. Reno has some great outdoors stuff to do and it's a little quieter than LV, but it has a lot of the same problems. We're always hearing stories from them about the awful road rage, and other things I won't mention to keep the forums family friendly. Heck, my bro-in-law got stabbed at his job by a crazy guy once (luckily just his arm, in a repairable-with-stitches place), and he got punched out another time.

            "There are plenty of things money can buy in NV... for everything else there's Hawai'i."


            I'll have to say, Las Vegas is quite a turnaround from NY, the guy is going to have some serious culture shock by moving here. It's a totally different lifestyle here. Since I moved to the desert from Detroit 19 years ago, I sure don't miss the serious crime, the freezing cold, or the grimy, dirty surroundings there. Not to mention the brutal hostility.

            Lots of folks move here from Californina, because they can't afford to live there, however, they try too hard to force their politics/Cali ideas on Las Vegans, and I'll have to say, it just doesn't work here! When you go to a new place, you must adapt to it, not the other way around. (last one out of L.A., please turn out the lights, lol!)

            I am so looking forward to moving to Hawaii. I will work hard to be a positive part of society there, and to explore the beautiful culture and surroundings with the utmost respect.

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            • #21
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              Originally posted by Hope
              I'll have to say, Las Vegas is quite a turnaround from NY, the guy is going to have some serious culture shock by moving here. It's a totally different lifestyle here. Since I moved to the desert from Detroit 19 years ago, I sure don't miss the serious crime, the freezing cold, or the grimy, dirty surroundings there. Not to mention the brutal hostility.
              He currently lives in the Albany area, not NYC, so it's not such a big deal. The culture and the heat are the main reasons he wants to go actually. He hates cold and they get feet of snow up there every year. He also loves going to all the shows and casinos all the time. I say, more power to 'im, but I couldn't handle it myself.

              When you go to a new place, you must adapt to it, not the other way around. (last one out of L.A., please turn out the lights, lol!)
              Yeah, that's why we moved to Portland a little while back. My wife and I found ourselves to be in the wrong culture in cities we'd lived in previously. Portland has so many good things I believe in - lots of bike support, curbside recycling of almost everything and in-store recycling of most of the rest, urban growth boundary, strong support for local businesses and local agriculture, strong mass transit, strong civic culture (vote vote vote, ballot initiatives, etc). We figured we'd never move again. Yet I find that in some really important ways it's still not a fulfilling lifestyle here, and we haven't found a lot to contribute to a community that already has so much. I feel a bit like a movie set extra. Without going into a lot of "boring" details, Hawai'i feels like a place that can help us grow, and I hope we will be able to contribute back as well. We're planning to venture to the big island some time late next year or early 2008. Been on these forums to try to meet some people and learn.

              Since you guys mentioned hawaii.com, I have to say, check out the forum thread on here on that subject. They're a bit "gentle and dreamy", and they have a lot of focus on moving to Hawai'i, rah rah! HT is more like a hang-out for people who live in or have ties to Hawai'i. You'll get some hard knocks on this forum but they are generally good knocks. The people on here are great and have taught me a lot. In the end it's up to you to decide what info to believe and act upon, but it's been good to get a lot of different input.

              (Apologies if that sounded preachy, I'm really tired and it's tough for me to figure out if I'm writing goofily )

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              • #22
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                Goofily, oh, I love that word! Love to make words up, then use them to amuse people

                I'll have to say this much, I've lived in three states now, and have learned and experienced some really great things. Detroit, gritty as is is, has some of the best food! Ya' can't beat the coney island hot dogs!

                Greektown, which is a "little city" in the heart of Detroit, and the yummy scents of food from a distant country always drew me in. Greenfield Village, rich with history was one of my favorite places as a kid, as well as the Detroit zoo and entire days spent at the beach. At 28, however, I was ready to git', for different horizons.

                Then, there's the southwest cuisine of Arizona, spicy tamales, homemade, and distributed by local Mexican ladies, who make them in their own kitchens, then go wandering about selling them out of a sack. Learning how to pronounce "sahuaro", as in cactus, and going up to Mount Lemon to enjoy the cooler air up there.

                In the desert skies, you can see every star imaginable, just driving out to the desert, and lyin' on top of a pickup truck. I'd never seen them quite like that before. Then, up toward Apache Lake, past the historic Superstition Mountains...quite an amazing place to see, and hear of the Lost Dutchman's gold mine, and how many cowboys rode in there, only to die in those mountains, all for the sake of the gold.

                Las Vegas, void of culture, as most buildings get torn down by the time they're 20, still has some interesting things to take in. Namely, the "Characters". I could tell you some funny stories about the people I've dealt with, being in the bar business in three states, HaHa!

                The time some freak set the bathroom on fire, and oh, the cook, who was smokin' sumpthin' powerful....came out of the bathroom STARK NAKED, except for his apron...because, he said, he was "hot"....um, okay...(you should have seen the look on Nick, the bartender's face!)

                Ah, Hawaii...another new and interesting place to explore! I think I'll take a bike ride..stop for a few sips of Kona coffee...(finest in all the world!)....walk along the beach, and see if I can pronounce all the beautiful fish in the Pacific....the moon sure looks pretty shining over the ocean, don't you think?

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                • #23
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                  Originally posted by Hope
                  Then, there's the southwest cuisine of Arizona, spicy tamales, homemade, and distributed by local Mexican ladies, who make them in their own kitchens, then go wandering about selling them out of a sack. Learning how to pronounce "sahuaro", as in cactus, and going up to Mount Lemon to enjoy the cooler air up there.
                  I spent some time in Tucson as well. It's got its perks, like the saguaro/sahuaro ("suh-gwa-ro?! hello newcomer" heheh) and of course El Charro. I was almost married on the top of Mt Lemmon, and then it burned down about a week before the wedding. We ended up having it in the valley instead, in the 108 degree heat, and half our cake's icing melted off. Good times...

                  Ah, Hawaii...another new and interesting place to explore! I think I'll take a bike ride..stop for a few sips of Kona coffee...(finest in all the world!)....walk along the beach, and see if I can pronounce all the beautiful fish in the Pacific....the moon sure looks pretty shining over the ocean, don't you think?
                  Yep, looking forward to it. Speaking of pronouncing the fish, start with the "state fish" and you'll have a stronger handle on pronouncing a lot of Hawaiian words Let's see if all my characters come out properly:

                  humuhumunukunukuapua'a

                  (hmm, looks like the forum doesn't like unicode... doh)

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                  • #24
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                    Originally posted by Serenity
                    Once there is Hope, soon after, Serenity follows
                    Oh, now that's too clever...

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                    • #25
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                      ...ah, yes, and then there's Casa Molina, Mr. Molina graced us with his presence at the off track betting room at Jeff's Pub, on the east side. I went to one of his restaurants for dinner on one of my birthdays...upon dessert, all the lights went out in the busy dining room..and his whole staff came out of the kitchen...candles blazing on a mound of flan, singing away! I sure felt special that night! He wouldn't even let us pay for the dinners!

                      I do miss Bookman's book store...as poor as I was living there, I'd spend a few hours getting free reads at Bookman's...then feeling, guiltily I'd buy a used, $1.50 magazine, lol!

                      I love the soud of the language in Hawaii! Some of the music I heard is also simply beautiful! Maybe someone can tell me a few popular bands, so I can take a listen? (I've loved Poi Dog Pondering for years now!) My fav music of all time is reggae.

                      Bard, where do you live now?

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                      • #26
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                        Originally posted by Hope
                        I do miss Bookman's book store...as poor as I was living there, I'd spend a few hours getting free reads at Bookman's...then feeling, guiltily I'd buy a used, $1.50 magazine, lol!
                        Yeah, Bookman's was my bane. You couldn't go anywhere near that store with even a few spare dollars or it'd suck it right out of you. I think half my DVD collection and not a few books are thanks to them.

                        We have Powell's here for the book fix, and Everyday Music for CDs, but neither are quite as cheap and impulse buy inducing as Bookman's was for me.

                        I love the soud of the language in Hawaii! Some of the music I heard is also simply beautiful! Maybe someone can tell me a few popular bands, so I can take a listen? (I've loved Poi Dog Pondering for years now!) My fav music of all time is reggae.
                        I once saw someone refer to Hawaiian as "the sound of a waterfall captured in language" and I can't really disagree. It's lovely.

                        If you don't know Israel "IZ" Kamakawiwo'ole, then run, don't walk, to pick up some. My favorite of his so far has been "Facing Future", which also won some mainstream awards.

                        Brittni Paiva is the new 'ukulele and slack key guitar wunderkind, from the big island. Saw her in a concert last weekend courtesy of Leo Lakio.

                        Anyone have any recommendations besides Poi Dog Pondering for "pop" Hawaiian music? e.g. rock music with Hawaiian topics and language.

                        Bard, where do you live now?
                        Still in Portland, OR right now. I think my wife's already mentally moved to Hawai'i though

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                        • #27
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                          Yes, I've heard of Powell's, sounds like a place I could go broke in!
                          I need to go get some new cds, love the music! I was a disc jockey for 8 years, and my love of all kinds of music will always be with me.

                          My ex guy lives there in Portland, we're still great friends. He has a band there, ever heard of the Quagmire Expedition?

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                          • #28
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                            Originally posted by Bard
                            Still in Portland, OR right now. I think my wife's already mentally moved to Hawai'i though
                            You sound just like my husband....I like your wife already!
                            Since when is psycho a bad thing??
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                            • #29
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                              why do all of you have these mis-guided dreams of moving to "paradise"? If you aren't happy where you are, why do you think you will be any happier here?

                              as has been said on here many, many times - THIS IS NOT, I REPEAT NOT, PARADISE!

                              Sorry - I'm just in a really pissy mood today because of another of these threads. I'm afraid I'm Kimo55's new best friend on this subject!
                              "Democracy is the only system that persists in asking the powers that be whether they are the powers that ought to be."
                              – Sydney J. Harris

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                              • #30
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                                Originally posted by anapuni808
                                why do all of you have these mis-guided dreams of moving to "paradise"? If you aren't happy where you are, why do you think you will be any happier here?
                                Anapuni, I can't speak for anyone else posting on this thread, but why do you have these mis-guided ideas about knowing why we want to move to Hawai'i?

                                as has been said on here many, many times - THIS IS NOT, I REPEAT NOT, PARADISE!
                                Never thought it was, at least in the traditional sense of the word. I've gotten a bit cantankerous on this subject as well, from the other side. I'll give you my impression of "paradise". It is what it is, an island chain on the northern tip of Polynesia, in the middle of the Pacific, with a rich native culture undergoing a lovely renaissance. It's heavily dependent on cars, oil, imports, and other things I consider undesirable. There's racial tension. Corrupt politicians. Expensive as all h***. High property crime rates. Long delays for any sort of shipping. High chances of rock fever, for people used to living on a huge continent. Inconvenient flights in and out. Cultural clashes between "gentrifiers" and people who liked it the way it was, thank you very much. "Kill haole day".

                                And in spite of all that, "Hawai'i no ka oi"! She haunts me daily and won't leave my head until I go, even with the possibility I'll not fit and end up going elsewhere in a few years. I see benefits for myself and my family, but I've already gotten a lot out of my interactions with this forum and others, and it all makes me want to give back too, in some way that won't say "back on the mainland..." in so many words. Craig's thread about cleaning up the park sounds great. Wish I was already there to join in. Wish I already was there to bring Texas style cherry cream cheese pie to someone's shindig.

                                I'm sorry, I can't really give a better explanation than that, I'm just trying to be honest and go from there.

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