The H1N1 Scam

[Bobinator]

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I've heaRD ABOUT THE tEXAS EPIDEMIC.
(F%$#!) caps lock keys!
I've also heard Medical Prefessionals are REFUSING innoculations!

My kid was H1N1 positive and treated with an aNTI-VIRAL and recovered OK.

Someone is scared, or trying to control public perception......

K.

This is what's happening in America, folks!
http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/a...57/0/FRONTPAGE

http://farmwars.info/?p=1314

[Bobinator]

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Bob, the conclusions made in the first part of this article seem reasonable except the proof is never delivered. It’s basically rumor and innuendo, he-said she-said, but mostly, the author said. Frankly any writer who uses phrases like “I’m gonna throw out a wild guess here and suggest” should be fired for journalistic incompetence. Rule #1: never suggest anything to the reader. Let the facts speak for themselves.

What makes Natural News such a credible source? Think about it. The author is actually suggesting that more people will die from vaccine itself, then the H1N1 virus. Common sense should kick in at that point, and tell you the guy who wrote this is off his rocker. This vaccine has already been clinically tested on thousands of humans — most who have had no side effects. The few that have, experienced headaches and nausea — hardly what most would consider “life-threatening” conditions.

TunNL-

I disagree. The vaccine has not been tested. This article released yesterday contradicts your claim- http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/ne...8279894.stm?ls

There are many other articles that support the one above. If you can provide an article or something in writing to prove it has been adequately tested, then I will take note.

This article was released on July 28, 2009 about 12,000 children to be used to test the vaccine. From what I understand, testing requires a minimum of 6 months- http://www.examiner.com/x-7160-Sacra...y-side-effects

Regarding people dying from the vaccine, you should watch the 60 minute documentary on the Swine Flu in 1976. More people died as a result of the vaccine than the flu itself. The same ingredients associated with the cause of Gulf War Syndrome from the vaccines are being used in the Swine Flu vaccine, namely Thimerosal (mercury) and Squalene (an adjuvant). Both of these are linked to various diseases, including autism. Thousands of U.S. soldiers died from Gulf War Syndrome.

[TuNnL]

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I disagree. The vaccine has not been tested. This article released yesterday contradicts your claim- http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/ne...8279894.stm?ls.

Here again, is a representation of your failure to do even basic research, Bob. The article details testing to begin on children in a particular region of the United Kingdom. No where in that article does it say it is the first clinical trial on human beings, because it isn’t. Here is an article printed three weeks ago in a scientific journal that details a clinical trial on 2,800 adults — far more extensive than the targeted little test you cite.

Again, I’m not trying to debate your basic premise that the H1N1 virus was manufactured in a lab. That is still a theory that hasn’t been officially debunked. The point here, is that your sources are suspect. You would do well to try something more cerebral than a children’s BBC website — but it’s a good start.

[Ron Whitfield]

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So if that's what the H1N1 flu is, it wasn't as bad as everyone's been saying.

Ya'll had some kind of kiddie ride flu. Wail til you get the real McCoy. Kiss an entire month bye bye, if you live that long.

[Bobinator]

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Here again, is a representation of your failure to do even basic research, Bob. The article details testing to begin on children in a particular region of the United Kingdom. No where in that article does it say it is the first clinical trial on human beings, because it isn’t. Here is an article printed three weeks ago in a scientific journal that details a clinical trial on 2,800 adults — far more extensive than the targeted little test you cite.

Again, I’m not trying to debate your basic premise that the H1N1 virus was manufactured in a lab. That is still a theory that hasn’t been officially debunked. The point here, is that your sources are suspect. You would do well to try something more cerebral than a children’s BBC website — but it’s a good start.

Let's not get personal here. My sources are numerous, and I'm sure I've spent a lot more time on researching this subject. Based on this CBS article, clinical trials have just recently started, and many parents, doctors and nurses are leery about the vaccine- http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n5290536.shtmlhttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n5290536.shtml

You don't start clinical trials and poke the general populace at the same time. What the research is intended to do is see if the vaccine works. What I'm concerned about is what the negative effects it will have on our health. Guillan Bar Syndrome doesn't happen overnight. Read this article- http://www.infowars.com/cdc-warns-ne...ine-flu-shots/

You talk about reliable new sources, and that's a legitimate concern. But I get my news from a wide range of sources that confirm there's a serious concern, even from the medical field. Here's another news article with statements from Dr. Leonard Horowitz of Harvard University, expressing concerns about vaccines-http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212254207.shtml

Keep in mind that many of the news sources you may deem reliable are the primary source of government propaganda. I've been to mainland China for long visits, and always complained how their people are controlled by their government run news media. It took several years to realize that to a large degree we are in the same boat, except we currently have a relatively unrestricted news source called the internet. And now,the government wants to place restrictions on that as well, because their shenanigans are being exposed.

Whatever the outcome of our debate, the main things is to inform people and get them to think for themselves, rather than being manipulated and controlled by the global elite scum.

[Bobinator]

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Ya'll had some kind of kiddie ride flu. Wail til you get the real McCoy. Kiss an entire month bye bye, if you live that long.

I'm sure Swine Flu affects people differently. I think it depends on whether you've been exposed to its various components in the past. From what I've learned, H1N1 is a combinant of Swine Flu, Bird Flu and 2 strains of Type-A Human Flu. So if you've caught one or more of these, you may get milder symptoms.

The one you ought to be concerned about is the Bird Flu that's killed over 86 people in Egypt. The mortality rate is like 64%. Now that's a plague!

[Bobinator]

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Just a current update on what's happening on the war front. A prominent Washington D.C. attorney filed a lawsuit to halt the S.F. vaccine alleging it was not adequately tested, and that Federal Laws were broken to fast track it-

http://www.naturalnews.com/027205_va...u_the_FDA.html

Before anyone vouches for the vaccine's safety, one ought to consider why the Director for the Dept. of Health and Human Services, Kathleen Sebelius, granted tort immunity to the vaccine makers under the 2006 Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act. Seems like Baxter Pharmaceuticals is not confident in their own poison, not to mention the lawsuits stemming from the 25 deaths and hundreds of vaccine victims with debilitating side-effects from their 1976 Swine Flu vaccine as noted on the 60 Minutes documentary shown on youtube.

Here's a couple of articles on this-

http://www.foodconsumer.org/newsite/...ne_makers.html

2006 Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act
http://www.hhs.gov/disasters/emergen...accine-qa.html

Here's an article on our friends, the Baxter's- http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...vaccine-baxter

[Walkoff Balk]

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33536746...-cold_and_flu/

There are some good sides to medication. They don't want to just suck your blood.

[Bobinator]

Not all medicines are bad, but one needs to do some research before injecting anything into their bodies.

Here's a clip of what many doctors are saying abou the flu vaccine, particularly for H1N1- http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/727.html

Here's a provoking question, why aren't "they" eschewing the virtues of Vitamin D3, which is highly effective for preventing colds and flus? Because they can't make their billions with nutrition. Many doctors say vitamin D3 and other natural remedies are more effective than the vaccines.

Follow the money.

Here's what Dr. Rauni Kilde, former Health Minister of Finland has to say about the Swine Flu pandemic- "Total Rubbish" and orchestrated to make huge profits for BigPharma.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=185HKE2c5Gg

[Walkoff Balk]

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Here's a provoking question, why aren't "they" eschewing the virtues of Vitamin D3, which is highly effective for preventing colds and flus? Because they can't make their billions with nutrition. Many doctors say vitamin D3 and other natural remedies are more effective than the vaccines.

Where do they sell Vitamin D3? I just take the regular Vitamin D.

[craigwatanabe]

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Where do they sell Vitamin D3? I just take the regular Vitamin D.

This is vitamin D3 and here's where you can buy it.

[Bobinator]

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I beleive I've seen it at Costco's. You can also get it from direct sunlight for 10 minutes a day. You're body produces it naturally.

[Bobinator]

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Japan links Tamiflu to sudden deaths in children-
http://www.fightbackh1n1.com/2009/08...deaths-in.html

Also, I recommend watching the video documentary on the right side of the web page.

[tutusue]

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I beleive I've seen it at Costco's.[...]

Costco currently has a coupon for Nature Made vitamin D 1000 iu. WB...check the back of your label. Mine states it's D3 while the front doesn't mention anything with "3".

[Bobinator]

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Costco currently has a coupon for Nature Made vitamin D 1000 iu. WB...check the back of your label. Mine states it's D3 while the front doesn't mention anything with "3".

How do you guys feel about the Nature Made brand? For a long time, I've looked at it as some crappy company pushing nutritional supplements that are of poor quality that are not readily absorbed by the body. Anyone experience different? I trust Kirkland, even though the name sort of carries that stigma, because their other products are great for the price.